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Post by ushtari on Jan 31, 2011 14:34:35 GMT -5
You are just embarrassing you self, really. If you would have read through my sources you would know WHY its being discussed from what particular area in the Balkans Albanians derived from. Again, as you see in my sources, Albanians being descendents from a paleo-balkan people is a commonly known fact.
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Post by socio on Jan 31, 2011 14:39:29 GMT -5
Relax Admin, there is no need for you to go insane. Take it easy ... All they are suggesting is that you should go and improve your English first before taking on anything else here. ... and If I may add take the following back with you and show it to your teacher ... Trust me it'll help you very much: "While it is considered established that the Albanians originated in the Balkans" followed by "The exact location from where they spread out is hard to pinpoint. Despite varied claims, the Albanians probably came farther north and inland than would suggest the present borders of Albania, with a homeland concentrated at the mountains". So on one side location of something which is established to be true and on the other side that same something is unclear in terms of even its own exact location which is hard to pinpoint yet , one more time, its location is established ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Jan 31, 2011 14:45:11 GMT -5
Of course the location is established especially when it can not pinpointed, especially then. If the location can be pinpointed then it can not be established as a location.
Looks like I will make a killing on this Brooklyn Bridge Bidders please take your numbers, get seated and wait your turn (Now it makes sense why Pyramid schemes worked before)
;D ;D ;D
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Post by ushtari on Jan 31, 2011 14:45:35 GMT -5
Oh dear... let me get this straight for all of you. The reason why it is established that Albanian originated in the Balkans is because Albanian is developed from a paleo-balkan language. But, as you probably know, there is more then one paleo-balkan language, therefor its still being discussed from what particular area in the Balkans Albanians come from.
But if you would have read carefully through my sources, you would understand this emmediately, and i would not have to waste my time like this.
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Post by socio on Jan 31, 2011 14:49:33 GMT -5
Let him be. Its his loss. We aint teaching him neither English nor how large is the Balkans. ;D ;D
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Post by ushtari on Jan 31, 2011 14:52:51 GMT -5
My loss? i have clearly proven for you with academic sources that we, apart from you, are indigenous in the Balkans.
The only thing i have seen coming from you is wikipedia(lol) quotes, proving nothing.
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Jan 31, 2011 14:53:58 GMT -5
Three bidders so far , damn I will make a killing on a brooklyn bridge.
Common people this is not any Brooklyn Bridge this is a special one, real one (unlike the fake one that takes you to Brooklyn).
This one has an established location only I can not pinpoint it.
Come to think of it, there might be several of these bridges to go around.
;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by socio on Jan 31, 2011 14:54:43 GMT -5
My loss? i have clearly proven for you with academic sources that we, apart from you, are indigenous in the Balkans. The only thing i have seen coming from you is wikipedia(lol) quotes, proving nothing. O glup, nuk tu drejtova ty !
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Jan 31, 2011 14:58:21 GMT -5
O glup, nuk tu drejtova ty ! (Translation: Glupan (Moron), not talking to you!) There there, no need for bidders to talk to each other like that since the latest news is that there are two Brooklyn Bridges on sale both with established location and neither can be pinpointed. ;D ;D
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Post by socio on Jan 31, 2011 15:02:36 GMT -5
O glup, nuk tu drejtova ty ! (Translation: Glupan (Moron), not talking to you!) There there, no need for bidders to talk to each other like that since the latest news is that there are two Brooklyn Bridges on sale both with established location and neither can be pinpointed. ;D ;D Ain't buying anything from you, that's for sure. Keep whining
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Jan 31, 2011 15:12:55 GMT -5
Ok I will pass one of the bridges to Rexxy, my associate, to sell it to you. That one is even better then the one that remains with me also with established location and its fully invisible which explains why it can not be pinpointed. He will give you the glasses that unable you to see it, that will be a freebie (rexy make sure you don't charge for the glasses!). Of course the location of the glasses is also established but it can not be pinpointed (they will be at the end of the rainbow with a pot of gold held by a leprechaun). ;D
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Post by ushtari on Jan 31, 2011 15:15:18 GMT -5
As usual when discussing this matter with Serbs, they end up trolling for having absolutely nothing to say against presented facts.
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Post by terroreign on Jan 31, 2011 16:37:55 GMT -5
Albanians never claimed illyrian ancestry until Enver, now the sheep are doing all they kind to scrap together a connection...haven't you had enough humility?
In this sense the Shqiptars and the FYROM nationalists are very similar.
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Post by laughingriever on Jan 31, 2011 16:38:51 GMT -5
I seriously think AAdmin is yanking our funny chain. So, I for one, am laughing.
As an outlandish illustration, let's say that there is a race of aliens on a spaceship cruising the Milky Way Galaxy, it is entirely reasonable for them to say "we know there is a planet full of idiots in that solar system we but can't pinpoint exactly which of the 9...er,8 planets they are on".
When the police are on a manhunt, it's ok for them to say "we know the suspect is in this neighborhood but we can't pinpoint exactly in which house he's hiding out".
When you go to the doctor and they do a screening test, it's normal for them to say "we can tell you have a cancer (non-specific tumor markers) but we can't tell you exactly where".
So, you see, in any situation from the large to the small, it's acceptable to say that something is certainly located in a large area but can't pinpoint the exact location.
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Post by ushtari on Jan 31, 2011 17:10:05 GMT -5
Albanians never claimed illyrian ancestry until Enver, now the sheep are doing all they kind to scrap together a connection...haven't you had enough humility? In this sense the Shqiptars and the FYROM nationalists are very similar. Its not about what Albanians claim, but what modern historians/linguists claim. There is NO modern historian/linguist who claim Albanians have their origin outside of the Balkans, all of them agree that the original home of Albanians is Balkan. Whats being discussed is from what particular paleo-balkan people they are descendents of.
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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Jan 31, 2011 17:35:21 GMT -5
The most respected scholars, even if they didn't agree on wether Albanians were originally Illyrians or Dacians, all agreed on the fact that Albanian are a paleo-balkanic people ! And then we have aadmin coming with a theory noone has ever heard of, the normand origins of Albanians ... Linguists are saying that our latin words derive directly from Latin, but aadmin disagree ... Who are you aadmin, a scholar ? A scientist ? I think it would be interesting to know ... what is your study on the subject, published by wich university etc ... I think we have the right to know, man ! Don't worry most real Serbian academics agree Albanians are native. Albanians could be an Illyrian tribe, Dardanianian, Thracian, an eventual conglomerate of several paleo-Balkanic tribes speaking a similar language. Either way they are autochthonous. Albanian language both has support (eg Balkan Sprachbund and Latin derivations) as Balkanic and also disagreement (eg small amount of Greek loanwords). What I want to point out now is that if we take Albanian as an independent Balkan language considering its independence from Greek perhaps this would also encourage the possibility that slavic was a native tongue in the Balkans. Admin, this is what I would put my efforts into searching for if I was you. You have to realise that a lot of people are ignoring you because you really are unconvincing. You are all over the shop and don't seem to realize your own inconsistencies and contradictions. Anyway, putting a label on something beyond paleo-Balkanic (like Dardanian, Illyrian, Thracian) for any of us is an extremely misleading intangible fantasy. For Albanians but definitely especially for south slavs since our awareness of each other is only known through the slavic toungue. There's very little that links us as having a common culture or awareness of eachother prior to this.
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Post by terroreign on Jan 31, 2011 17:42:27 GMT -5
Albanians never claimed illyrian ancestry until Enver, now the sheep are doing all they kind to scrap together a connection...haven't you had enough humility? In this sense the Shqiptars and the FYROM nationalists are very similar. Its not about what Albanians claim, but what modern historians/linguists claim. There is NO modern historian/linguist who claim Albanians have their origin outside of the Balkans, all of them agree that the original home of Albanians is Balkan. Whats being discussed is from what particular paleo-balkan people they are descendents of. I read a theory once about a Thracian-Albanian origin. Apparantly there was a Thracian tribe called Bessoi who preserved their language into the 7th century.
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Post by ushtari on Jan 31, 2011 18:07:36 GMT -5
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Post by la3ar on Jan 31, 2011 18:24:18 GMT -5
You guys are still going at it ?
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Post by socio on Jan 31, 2011 18:32:56 GMT -5
I seriously think AAdmin is yanking our funny chain. So, I for one, am laughing. As an outlandish illustration, let's say that there is a race of aliens on a spaceship cruising the Milky Way Galaxy, it is entirely reasonable for them to say "we know there is a planet full of idiots in that solar system we but can't pinpoint exactly which of the 9...er,8 planets they are on". When the police are on a manhunt, it's ok for them to say "we know the suspect is in this neighborhood but we can't pinpoint exactly in which house he's hiding out". When you go to the doctor and they do a screening test, it's normal for them to say "we can tell you have a cancer (non-specific tumor markers) but we can't tell you exactly where". So, you see, in any situation from the large to the small, it's acceptable to say that something is certainly located in a large area but can't pinpoint the exact location. Damn, now you are teaching him common sense ! You shouldn't have ! He should pay for his lessons, nothing is free in this world.
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