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Post by donnie on Feb 15, 2011 17:13:16 GMT -5
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Post by zoti on Feb 15, 2011 17:20:53 GMT -5
This video is amazing for two reasons:
1. For the very inventive way in which the student protested the university conditions. Using Fan Noli's poem and the red paint to "shame" him was an extremely well calculated way to attract attention to their cause.
2. The reaction of the university president: calm beyond belief and he kept talking while covered in red paint. Kudos to him.
Now if we could only have some sort of civic protest of similar nature in Albania it'd be more productive than the violent demonstrations of 3 weeks ago.
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Post by alb12345 on Feb 15, 2011 17:55:45 GMT -5
Skuqen ata qe kane cipe ne faqe...ata qe s'kane duhen skuqur..kushdo qe mendon qe 1 individ/zyrtar/politikan qe paguhet me taksat tona, nuk e ben detyren e vet, duhet skuqur. Ndergjegja per te reaguar duhet te jete e larte. Nje popull i heshtur eshte nje popull i shtypur... Kosove, Iliride ,Malesi, Cameri , Shqiperi londineze JEMI NJE ... 1 ngjarje qe ndodh ne Prishtine eshte njesoj sikur ndodh ne Vlore apo ne Shkup Shoku Zoti vdekje fashizmit
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Post by toskaliku on Feb 15, 2011 18:57:30 GMT -5
Awesome!
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Post by emer on Feb 15, 2011 19:21:06 GMT -5
Ai eshte "calm" se ka kamer aty...te mos ishte mund te kete pasur ndonje reagim tjeter. Kta kosovaret jan shum koketrash jo te gjithe sigurisht po kjo gje shikohet ne menyren se si perkrahin Berishen.
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Post by zoti on Feb 15, 2011 20:17:10 GMT -5
Ai eshte "calm" se ka kamer aty...te mos ishte mund te kete pasur ndonje reagim tjeter. Kta kosovaret jan shum koketrash jo te gjithe sigurisht po kjo gje shikohet ne menyren se si perkrahin Berishen. Ky eshte nje keqmendimi i shume Shqiptarve. Kosova ka nje urtesi dhe gjakftohtesi qe rralle e gjen tek Shqiptaret e Republikes. Ne shume raste ku me ka takuar te degjoj apo takoj Kosovare te arsimuar me kane bere shujme pershtypje se sa me gjakftohte jane ne krahasim me ne nga Republika. Ne marrim kot si pushka e jevgut per fjalen me te vogel. Ne Shqiperi Rektori i Universitetit s'do kishte ndejtur kurre ashtu me kamera apo pa kamera ne salle. Shoku Zoti vdekje fashizmit Liri Popullit Shoku Unik
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Post by ILIRI I MADH on Feb 16, 2011 1:36:37 GMT -5
Ti bente donjeri Berishes keshtu Berisha ja kishte qi nanen haha
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Post by bordura on Feb 16, 2011 2:26:48 GMT -5
Ti bente donjeri Berishes keshtu Berisha ja kishte qi nanen haha the saddest thing about PD is that is no one left (Berisha took good care of that) that you'd feel as a balanced mind and that would produce a good nice statesman if Berisha is eliminated from the leadership. He has destroyed what naturally was in early 90's the logical political vehicle to move Albania forward. Absolutely no brains or civic character inside PD with a serious stature. Berisha eats them on their first show of independent thinking. As far as PS goes it never transformed to something progressive. Even lets say one wants to give Rama the benefit of the doubt and try him on leading role as prime-minister (he is the only main figure that never got there) when you see his line-up of players its beyond sad, its tragic. anyway Berisha and his form of management it is proved disastrous 3 times in Albania. He is a dinamo of conflict. All he thinks is how to fight the opposite camp, never thought of raising the quality of life through whats come natural in impoverished Albania: support agriculture, local farmers, that build a second infrastructure around farm trade witch in turn employs people cheapens produce prices and support tourism and monetary circulation. It is a shame that in order to protect they mafiosi trading monopoly with neighboring countries (PD cronies) kill local agriculture and all that comes with it. Albania is still 50-60% rural population and Berisha talks for nuclear reactors and smoke screens like that. In Albania in big cities we buy apple, oranges, figs, tomatoes, olives, potatoes, peppers, carrots, meat, fish, cheese, every freaking thing from import and no one penny has gone to help local investor, farmer, trader. You know why? Because someone looses money if local farmer will produce the above. You people talk about Berishas better plan? I'm just curious; whats the plan? Impoverish and destroy local forces that can produce something so my body's trade goes great and I get in return my cut as a King for allowing it? The only positive thing I ever saw in terms of a good strategy and tactic was lowering of taxes for doing business. Great measure, but as all the rest just a smoke screen, cause the legislative infrastructure that is necessary to jump start the real internal economy is chocking in other directions the local investor. Land is messed up and Berisha has been twice and long enough in power to fix the problem. What the hell do I care that the tax is low compare to the other countries if I don't have the title of my land so I can borrow or invite an investor? Is no one sector of life that at list looks promising because the government has a plan. Law is a joke Police is a tool Education, you literally can buy your grades and become a lawyer without opening a book Health system is in total collapse. Every single doctor is a ruthless trader of money against scandalous service. they have their personal list of prices that you should pay under the table for them to treat you. Imagine doctors education is free, facility is government owned, technology is bought for by the government and doctors ask you for bribe money as you having to be served in the west. all is crocked and it is not Berisha's fault why it exist, its fault is that he nourishes it. and when people get fed up and start asking for a change he turns criminal. He can not accept any critique at all imagine moving him from power. anyway it took a loot of people 40 year to realize what Hoxha was... so Berisha and Co have a good 20 year buffer zone
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Post by drinus123 on Feb 16, 2011 2:56:03 GMT -5
Ky eshte nje keqmendimi i shume Shqiptarve. Kosova ka nje urtesi dhe gjakftohtesi qe rralle e gjen tek Shqiptaret e Republikes. Ne shume raste ku me ka takuar te degjoj apo takoj Kosovare te arsimuar me kane bere shujme pershtypje se sa me gjakftohte jane ne krahasim me ne nga Republika. Ne marrim kot si pushka e jevgut per fjalen me te vogel. Ne Shqiperi Rektori i Universitetit s'do kishte ndejtur kurre ashtu me kamera apo pa kamera ne salle. Ne shqiperi njerezit jane shume egoist. Pra ke te drejte marrin si pushka jevgut. Bejne si ti doje qejfi se nuk jane mesu me ndeshkime. Ja shikoje parlamentin ne kosove me ate te shqiperise. Ky i joni ngjan eshte parlament cirk jo-funksional. Kurse ne parlament ne kosove te pakten diskutohet per gjera te rendesishme. politikant tane bejne si ti doje qejfi sic ne video. mungon pergjegjesia.. dhe institucionet e duhura qe te japin ndeshkime.
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Feb 16, 2011 9:33:53 GMT -5
Ai eshte "calm" se ka kamer aty...te mos ishte mund te kete pasur ndonje reagim tjeter. Kta kosovaret jan shum koketrash jo te gjithe sigurisht po kjo gje shikohet ne menyren se si perkrahin Berishen. Po ti cfare kategorie je o militant?, qe i ndan njerezit ne baze preferences politike?
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Post by zoti on Feb 16, 2011 9:45:42 GMT -5
Une isha ne nje tryeze te rrumbullaket qe u mbajt tek NYU nga Prof. Shinasi Rama. Nuk e di nqs Bordura was actually able to make it or not.
Aty kishte 2-3 Shqiptare nga Kosova, 3-4 nga Ulqini dhe te tjeret ishin nga Republika. Dy cunat qe folen nga Kosova u shprehen me shume qetesi dhe elokuence. Pak dhe sakte si i thone fjales. Ata nga Ulqini pak a shume me te njejtin ton. Nuk me pelqeu fakti qe te gjithe bene aludime per nje percarje Jug-Veri dhe rolin e Greqise tek PS-ja qe ekziston vetem ne mendjet e tyre per fat te keq po toni i te shprehurit te tyre me la shum mbresa.
Shumica nga Shqiperia flisnin kodra mbas bregut. Zgjateshin e zgjateshin derisa sa ta benin koken dhalle. Mbanin referata sikur ishin ne poltronen e parlamentit. Me pak fjale shume zhurme per asgje. Prof. Rama me pelqeu sepse u perpoq te mbante nje balance po disa prej tyre ishini te papermbajstshem. Nje mungese "kulture" shum e qarte.
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Post by bordura on Feb 16, 2011 11:47:23 GMT -5
Une isha ne nje tryeze te rrumbullaket qe u mbajt tek NYU nga Prof. Shinasi Rama. Nuk e di nqs Bordura was actually able to make it or not. Aty kishte 2-3 Shqiptare nga Kosova, 3-4 nga Ulqini dhe te tjeret ishin nga Republika. Dy cunat qe folen nga Kosova u shprehen me shume qetesi dhe elokuence. Pak dhe sakte si i thone fjales. Ata nga Ulqini pak a shume me te njejtin ton. Nuk me pelqeu fakti qe te gjithe bene aludime per nje percarje Jug-Veri dhe rolin e Greqise tek PS-ja qe ekziston vetem ne mendjet e tyre per fat te keq po toni i te shprehurit te tyre me la shum mbresa. Shumica nga Shqiperia flisnin kodra mbas bregut. Zgjateshin e zgjateshin derisa sa ta benin koken dhalle. Mbanin referata sikur ishin ne poltronen e parlamentit. Me pak fjale shume zhurme per asgje. Prof. Rama me pelqeu sepse u perpoq te mbante nje balance po disa prej tyre ishini te papermbajstshem. Nje mungese "kulture" shum e qarte. bordura nuk ishte sepse me duhej te shkoja ne nje ditelindje. Heres tjeter me kenaqesi Une kam udhetuar gjere neper Shqiperi (Veri dhe Jug) per vite me rradhe dhe vetem 2 vizita te shkurtera ne Kosove. Vete jam lindur e rritur ne Tirane, por rrenjet kulturore jane Toske e Labe ne kuptimin e gjere sepse edhe prinderit kane levizur shume te rinj ne Tirane. Pershtypja ime me e forte per geget ne pergjithesi eshte se sjellja e tyre ne bashkebisedim ka nje element me te dukshem respekti ndaj bashkebiseduesit, persa i perket anes formale. Ka nje kod te dukshem per syrin tim qe respekton (te pakten formalisht) bashkebiseduesin. Kjo nuk do te thote se Jugoret nuk respektojne bashkebiseduesin, sepse kjo do te ishte shume e pavertete (si cdo pergjithesim) por maniera Jugore eshte me sanguine dhe percon nje figure apo nje ndjenje ku territori personal i bashkebiseduesit okupohet shpesh e kollaj. Kjo persa i perket Shqiperise (Republikes). Per sa i perket eksperiences ne Kosove e kontaktet me Kosovaret ne Shqiperi e ne perendim gati gati cdo rast me eshte vertetuar e kunderta e budallalleqeve qe degjon lart e poshte sidomos ne Shqiperi. Per mua jane shume mikrprites, te japin shume respekt, me diplomatik, me te permbajtur kur thone dicka e me duket se kane nje koncept me te qarte per dinjitetin personal ne pergjithesi qe reflektohet tek menyra e komunikimit. Gjithesesi keshtu me duket mua, dhe disa bindje te krijuara ne keto 20 vjetet e fundit ku kontakti eshte shumefishuar natyrisht qe jane fluide e do te riformohen si per mua ashtu edhe per gjithe nen-grupimet Shqiptare ndermjet tyre. Vetem e mire duket e ardhmja ne syrin tim. Kjo qe i ndodhi popullit Shqiptar ne Ballkan ne keto 20 vjetet e fundit eshte vetem miresi me gjithe hallet e problemet.
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Post by emer on Feb 16, 2011 13:43:35 GMT -5
Nuk tha njeri qe Kosovaret nuk kan respekt ose edukate ose kulture por ne disa raste eshte shume e kufizuar. Nuk po e zgjas me se nuk dua te filloj debate koti.
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