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Post by kartadolofonos on Feb 19, 2011 2:59:22 GMT -5
Οι Αλβανοί τρέμουν στην ιδέα μιας πιθανής απογραφής του πληθυσμού που αναμένεται να αρχίσει το 2011, γιατί θα εμφανίσει τον πραγματικό αριθμό των Ελλήνων Βορειοηπειρωτών (που ανέρχεται σε εκατ.). Στην απογραφή αυτή θα καταγράφεται το θρήσκευμα και η εθνική καταγωγή των κατοίκων.
Ο επί πολλά χρόνια καταπιεσμένος Βορειοηπειρώτικος Ελληνισμός είναι αναγνωρισμένος από Διεθνείς Συμβάσεις ως Εθνική Μειονότητα! Protest held in Tirana in front of the Supreme Council of Justice with the main slogan during the census will be based on national and religious identity .Albanian people, which will take place early April 2011. The protest was organized by the organization 'black and red' (SS Albanian flag) and support Albanian organizations from Albania, Kosovo, FYROM, Montenegro, the Presevo Valley and members of the War criminal community Albanotsiamides. We believe firmly that the census made by national and religious criteria does not serve national interests but is supported by unpatriotic circuits which at 20 years aimed at increasing technical other ethnic Albania. This census is inconsistent with the Constitution of the Republic of Albania, but that is enough reason to question the validity, "says The announcement of the organization 'fans reddish 'Tifozëve Kuq e Zi'. Before the protest was a meeting with representatives of organizations, the deputy chairman of the Supreme Judicial Council, Dato Spahiu who was reportedly the main opposing the inventory with ethnic or religious criteria. The meeting , organizations to Spahiu,gavethe sense of solidarity with the protesters their views of the High court. They asked, in fact, find legal arrangements,order to prevent the conduct of the census with the logic of national criteria because it is detrimental to the reality of the country. Vice President of the Supreme Council of Justice, Dato Spahiu, said today in Gjirokastra, that is treated with great concern the large number of people taking refuge in the Albanian courts to change their nationality, the Albanian who had until recently. Only in Gjirokastra in 2004 recorded over 1600 cases seeking to acquire another nationality, Spachis said in a statement. Heralded, in fact, inspection of the courts on matters related to this issue.
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Post by terroreign on Feb 19, 2011 3:15:34 GMT -5
Only in Gjirokastra in 2004 recorded over 1600 cases seeking to acquire another nationality, Spachis said in a statement.
Albanians....your reign of discrimination and propaganda is coming to an end....forcing people to go through the legal system in order to lawfully declare their true nationality....disgusting animals
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Post by terroreign on Feb 19, 2011 3:17:52 GMT -5
When I get a million dollars, I swear by God the first thing I'm doing is buying up real estate in Northern Albania and building Serb Kabbutzes where I will offer displaced Serbs around the world cheap housing, and free for families having over 6 children.
See you Serb Malesia in 30 years
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Post by kartadolofonos on Feb 19, 2011 3:31:46 GMT -5
Many Non Albanians want to change his Albanian ethnicity. 1.000.000 Albanians want to become Greeks !! Vlachs in Albania were recognized as Rumanian Slavs=Serbs,Montenegrins,Fyromianians,Bulgars were recognized as non Albanians. Turks want Turk ethnicity. etc.. crazy Albanians !! Vlachs are Rumanians gamotin alvania sas
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Post by terroreign on Feb 19, 2011 4:14:06 GMT -5
^It's not just that...you think there doesn't exist Muslim Greeks or Serbs that also due to intimidation fear expressing their true ethnicity?
If these people are encouraged to express their actual identities I am certain Albanian wouldn't surpass 85% of this country.
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Post by greek1234 on Feb 19, 2011 4:40:00 GMT -5
I can only imagine how much of Albania's population is of Greek and Slavic (Serb and Montenegrin) origins, just imagine how much of that population is Albanized. Any Albanian that has Mediterranean features are definitely of partial Greek origins. The Albanian language, a hybrid between Illyrian, Thracian, Latin, Slavic, Turkish, and other elements, reflects the ethnically composite origin of the Albanians.
Greeks have been living in what is now Albania since antiquity which greatly influenced the Illyrians who where definitely in the Hellenic culture zone. During the Greek Byzantine era the people who lived there had major Greek influence (Greek language throughout the elites in society in particular the Greek Orthodox church).
What they now call Durres was originally called Epidamnos, it was an ancient Greek city. This continued up to the middle ages.
Many territories in the North was Slavic territory and still is. Major 'Albanian' towns during the 19th century had a substantial Slavic (Serb and Bulgarian) speaking minority.
"Certainly the Gheggas have in the course of their history had a large intermixture of Slavic blood, both Serb and Bulgarian, and I found that the Serbian language was intelligible to many at Durazzo, while at Antivari and elsewhere it is spoken by a large part of the population."
Never the less what we now call Albanian is of Ottoman heritage.
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Post by terroreign on Feb 19, 2011 5:29:40 GMT -5
The fact remains...whoever the Albanians originally were (pre-1250), they were substantially low in number but ultra-violent and culturally adaptive.
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Post by rex362 on Feb 19, 2011 10:18:50 GMT -5
Your greek consul was removed bcs of jibber jabber talk vorio this and vorio that
if your Greeks could only understand what this Vlah priest from Albania is saying .....
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Post by rusebg on Feb 19, 2011 10:33:23 GMT -5
As far as I know, this census will be held throughout Europe. It is taking place in Bulgaria at the moment. I don't know how the questionairy in Albanian census is structured but here those questions about ethnicity and religion are not obligatory. You can choose whether to answer them or not. Actually, you can list yourself as Thug and believe in Kali, if you want to.
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Post by rex362 on Feb 19, 2011 10:39:06 GMT -5
The nation of Albania is full of Muslims, Islam in what we now call Albania has been the dominant faith since the Ottoman period. The neo Muslims in Albania are known to be the biggest Jihadists, not only in the Balkans but in Europe. There are many minorities in Albania which have suffered discrimination, this includes the Greeks of the south. Albania before the Ottoman period has been in the Greek culture zone in particular the south and the coastal areas. In the north Slavic influence has been the predominate. Also we cannot forget the Vlachs who have received much persecution. greek propoganda and aspirations are weakening everyday .... club omonia is getting boring and the nice Vlahcs in Albania are denouncing to being greek and insulted by greeks calling them anything other than Vlahs the money is slowing down ...your greek consuls are uncovered for what their true functions are ...and mouthpieces are getting tired
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Post by rex362 on Feb 19, 2011 10:58:13 GMT -5
and screw that Koutzovlach from the Pindus Mountains, Nicholas Gatzoyiannis
aka nickolas gage
ahahahahahahahahahah no billions even the chickens are greek
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Post by rex362 on Feb 19, 2011 11:17:21 GMT -5
We and others know that the make believe so called vorio epirot game by certain Greeks is only there and lives just so to smother & drown the CHAM ISSUE
Athens is at fault as well just for staying silent and letting it happen ....its silences condones it
Its a game that Greeks believe in and get hyped up with bcs of propaganda by a very few of their own .
Besides making lies to smother the Cham issue they are guilty and have something to lose within Greece and of their families crimes. We know who the culprits are. The rest of you are just mouthpieces and cows with bells around your necks making noise
but all this Greek game will do is make the CHAM ISSUE more stronger .
besides ..the serbs played these games with us way back, we have practice....btw they do it better than you but still backfires on em eventually .
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Post by kartadolofonos on Feb 19, 2011 14:27:37 GMT -5
Here is the Statement of the Greek Consul of Koritsa (Albania)
Σε αποκλειστικές του δηλώσεις ο ανακληθείς αιφνιδιαστικά στην Αθήνα Έλληνας Πρόξενος Κορυτσάς Θεόδωρος Οικονόμου Καμαρινός, αποκαλύπτει ότι αιτία της απομάκρυνσής του ήταν
η χρησιμοποίηση των όρων «Έλληνες» και «Βόρεια Ήπειρος»! Λέξεις που είναι φαίνεται απαγορευμένες για το Υπουργείο Εξωτερικών, αλλά όχι και για τη συνείδηση και τις καρδιές των αληθινών Ελλήνων Διπλωματών, που υπηρετούν με αυτοθυσία την Πατρίδα και τελικά χάρη στο φιλότιμο και την ατομική τους προσπάθεια διασώζεται ακόμη η Ελλάδα…
«ΔΕΝ ΑΝΑΚΑΛΩ ΟΣΑ ΕΙΠΑ ΓΙΑ ΕΛΛΗΝΕΣ ΚΑΙ ΒΟΡΕΙΟ ΗΠΕΙΡΟ»
Ν: Έχει σηκωθεί θύελλα διαμαρτυριών κ. Οικονόμου για την αιφνιδιαστική απομάκρυνσή σας από την Κορυτσά. Είστε στα μάτια των Ελλήνων όλου του κόσμου ένας ήρωας, όπως φαίνεται στα μηνύματα που καταφθάνουν. Αληθεύει πως ο λόγος της ανάκλησής σας ήταν τα λόγια που είπατε στους Βορειοηπειρώτες, πως «οι παππούδες τους ήταν Έλληνες», πως εκεί «έγιναν ένδοξες ελληνικές μάχες και ο ελληνικός λαός ήταν πάντοτε παρών» και ότι «την περιοχή αυτή την αποκαλούμε Βόρειο Ήπειρο»;
ΠΡΟΞΕΝΟΣ ΟΙΚΟΝΟΜΟΥ: «Έκανα το καθήκον μου. Τίποτε παραπάνω. Και ούτε ανακαλώ, ούτε θα ανακαλέσω ποτέ τα όσα είπα για Έλληνες και Βόρειο Ήπειρο! Γι΄ αυτό και ανακλήθηκα στην Αθήνα! Είχα συνείδηση της αποστολής μου. Ήμουν στην Βόρειο Ήπειρο! Εάν ήμουν στην Καμπέρα ή κάπου αλλού, θα λειτουργούσα υπό άλλες συνθήκες. Αλλά ήμουν στη Βόρειο Ήπειρο»…
«ΝΑ ΜΗΝ ΕΓΚΑΤΑΛΕΙΨΟΥΜΕ ΤΑ ΕΘΝΙΚΑ ΜΑΣ ΔΙΚΑΙΑ»
Ν: Τι έχετε να πείτε τώρα πια στους Έλληνες του κόσμου, που θέλουν να σας ακούσουν. Η στάση σας είναι ένα σπάνιο κυριολεκτικά φαινόμενο στους καιρούς που ζούμε. Είναι μια στάση «Ίωνα Δραγούμη»…
ΠΡΟΞΕΝΟΣ ΟΙΚΟΝΟΜΟΥ: «Σας είπα πως έκανα απλά το χρέος μου. Τίποτε παραπάνω. Αυτό οφείλουμε να κάνουμε όλοι. Γιατί δεν πρέπει να εγκαταλείψουμε τα Εθνικά Θέματα και τα εθνικά μας δίκαια. Να δίνουμε τον αγώνα παντού και πάντα! Να είμαστε συσπειρωμένοι και ενωμένοι όλοι οι Έλληνες, μπρος στους κινδύνους και τις προκλήσεις»!
ΜΑΖΙΚΕΣ ΕΓΓΡΑΦΕΣ ΕΛΛΗΝΩΝ ΣΤΗΝ ΚΟΡΥΤΣΑ
Ν: Πίσω σας, με την αιφνιδιαστική απομάκρυνση, αφήσατε τους Βορειοηπειρώτες για τους οποίους αγωνιστήκατε. Τι μήνυμα έχετε να τους στείλετε τώρα, καθώς έχουν μείνει εμβρόντητοι με τη στάση της Αθήνας;
ΠΡΟΞΕΝΟΣ ΟΙΚΟΝΟΜΟΥ: «Να δώσουν το παρόν στην Απογραφή! Είναι η τελευταία ευκαιρία που έχουν για να δηλώσουν την Ελληνικότητά τους και να απαιτήσουν τα δικαιώματά τους για τη Βόρειο Ήπειρο!
Και όταν λέμε Βόρειο Ήπειρο, εννοούμε αυτό που περιγράφει το Πρωτόκολλο της Κέρκυρας του 1914! Τίποτε περισσότερο, τίποτε λιγότερο. Δεν διεκδικούμε τα εδάφη, αλλά διεκδικούμε ανθρώπους και δικαιώματα. Και οι άνθρωποι εκεί είναι Έλληνες που καταπιέζονται από Αλβανούς και από Τσάμηδες…
Η Απογραφή είναι πολύ σημαντική! Και χαίρομαι, γιατί τα λόγια μου έπιασαν τόπο στην Κορυτσά και σπεύδουν μαζικά οι Βορειοηπειρώτες να δηλώσουν την Ελληνικότητά τους και να εγγραφούν στην Ομόνοια! Για μένα αυτός ήταν ο στόχος! Και οι περισσότεροι από αυτούς τους Έλληνες της Κορυτσάς, το 80%, είναι Βλαχόφωνοι!
Αντιλαμβάνεστε λοιπόν πόσο σημαντικό είναι αυτό που επετεύχθη, τόσο που ανησύχησε ιδιαίτερα τους Αλβανούς, που διαμαρτυρήθηκαν, με αποτέλεσμα να ανακληθώ στην Αθήνα»….
Η ΥΠΟΝΟΜΕΥΣΗ ΤΗΣ …ΠΡΕΣΒΕΙΑΣ ΜΑΣ ΣΤΑ ΤΙΡΑΝΑ
Ν: Ο Έλληνας Πρέσβης στα Τίρανα, δήλωσε πως αυτά που είπατε περί Ελλήνων και Βορείου Ηπείρου, είναι «προσωπικές σας απόψεις»…
ΠΡΟΞΕΝΟΣ ΟΙΚΟΝΟΜΟΥ: «Προσωπικές μου απόψεις; Δεν είναι λοιπόν για τον Πρέσβη αυτοί εκεί οι άνθρωποι Έλληνες; Δεν είναι Βόρεια Ήπειρος; Είναι προσωπικές απόψεις αυτά; Γιατί δεν μιλάει; Κάθε τόσο καίνε την ελληνική σημαία κάτω από την Πρεσβεία και δεν μιλάει! Γιατί;»!
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Post by rex362 on Feb 19, 2011 14:39:14 GMT -5
a consul that says such things and then is called a hero
please......
mickey mouse blog bs
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Post by kartadolofonos on Feb 19, 2011 14:42:27 GMT -5
rex the romaio and arvanitic spirit is wake up it's nothing wrong !!
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Post by rex362 on Feb 19, 2011 14:52:39 GMT -5
its been awake for long time but you don't allow it to be Romaio or Arvanitiki
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Post by alb12345 on Feb 19, 2011 14:54:41 GMT -5
A country made of mix of everything that has declared that they dont have any minority has no right to talk about other country cencus. Only insure bastards aka albanian kolipes like karta, krile novi open up topics like this.
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Post by kartadolofonos on Feb 19, 2011 15:08:38 GMT -5
Your greek consul was removed bcs of jibber jabber talk vorio this and vorio that if your Greeks could only understand what this Vlah priest from Albania is saying ..... Rex this is Media Propaganda you know very well that all Vlach in Korce are Pro Arvanito Hellenes !!
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Post by drinus123 on Feb 19, 2011 15:19:06 GMT -5
Arvanitohomosexuals
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Post by rex362 on Feb 19, 2011 15:23:58 GMT -5
Nationality is not for sale
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