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Post by nilofer on Feb 24, 2011 5:24:52 GMT -5
I was just wondering whether or not it's possible to track someone's Greek origins down only by a family name, or maybe a tribe name? Like, if some has a certain last name, would you guys be able to tell, roughly, where in Greece that person is originally from and what their historic background might be?
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Post by Patrinos on Feb 24, 2011 6:18:55 GMT -5
well, very roughly we can say that those who have surnames ending in -akis are from Crete, -akos from eastern Mani, -eas from western Mani, -opoulos from Peloponnese, -ousis from Tsakonia and Chios, -oulias from south Achaia, -oudis from Macedonia/Thrace, -idis from Pontos and Minor Asia, -oglou from Konstantinoupolis, -atos Kephalonia, -elis from Lemnos and Smyrna, -ou(like Georgiou) from Cyprus, -iotis/-itis/-atis from where the prefix shows(e.g. Veriotis from Veria, Smyrniotis from Smyrna etc), -antis from Pontos(Ypsilantis comes from the village Ypsila(high place) etc etc
Do you have any surname in mind, that you want to know where it comes from?
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Feb 24, 2011 8:50:19 GMT -5
Where is the name Guzeloglu from is it Greek... ?
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Post by Patrinos on Feb 24, 2011 10:12:42 GMT -5
Where is the name Guzeloglu from is it Greek... ? Exiled and escaped from the turko-mongol hordes in 1955 Polis' pogrom...
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Post by rex362 on Feb 24, 2011 10:18:44 GMT -5
have to be careful with last names of Greeks and pertaining to their locations bcs what I have noticed is that they follow the wife's and sometimes take their names ......
guy from town A marries woman from town B 2 years later they are living in town B 300 miles away ...
basically ...they don't follow their blood they follow advantage or mouni
that's why they are called Graeo-----of woman /like woman
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Feb 24, 2011 11:02:08 GMT -5
Well my grandmothers maternal ancestors were from Istanbul, they went to Cyprus in the 1500s two twin brothers. One brother took the town Lefke and the other Baf. They were extremely rich. Surnamed Guzeloglu.
Another thing I discussed with a few Cypriot friends was: The TC from Lefke are very different in mindset and looks to the rest of Cyprus... too bad I can't do any research properly pff...
I def know about my fathers side and my maternal grandfathers side... just grandmothers mother side is left...
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Post by Kanaris on Feb 24, 2011 13:19:28 GMT -5
have to be careful with last names of Greeks and pertaining to their locations bcs what I have noticed is that they follow the wife's and sometimes take their names ...... guy from town A marries woman from town B 2 years later they are living in town B 300 miles away ... basically ...they don't follow their blood they follow advantage or mouni that's why they are called Graeo-----of woman /like woman Rex...you are starting to be very boring.... and moronic..please stop.
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Post by terroreign on Feb 24, 2011 13:43:17 GMT -5
have to be careful with last names of Greeks and pertaining to their locations bcs what I have noticed is that they follow the wife's and sometimes take their names ...... guy from town A marries woman from town B 2 years later they are living in town B 300 miles away ... basically ...they don't follow their blood they follow advantage or mouni that's why they are called Graeo-----of woman /like woman Rex...you are starting to be very boring.... and moronic..please stop. *Sub forum*.....
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Post by Kanaris on Feb 24, 2011 13:50:45 GMT -5
Rex has become a one man garbage spewing machine...and he enjoys it.
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Post by tsompanos on Feb 25, 2011 9:31:34 GMT -5
there are more types like mine that ends with tzis thats most common in thrace though if im right, however my surname doesn't sound greek nor anything else i dont even think its a word its just a surname.
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Post by Patrinos on Feb 25, 2011 10:23:00 GMT -5
The -tzis has two possible derivations. If it is like Skylitzis, Nikiforitzis, Yiannitzis, etc is from the medieval demunitive suffix and surname suffix -itzis. If its like Fanartzis, Bojatzis, Kalantzis, Kaiktzis, Samartzis etc it comes from turkish loanwords or Greek nouns plus the loaned suffix -tzis(-tsis) that denotes an occupation, like Samartzis the constructor of samari, Fanartzis the constructor of fanari etc
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Post by nilofer on Mar 3, 2011 18:18:29 GMT -5
well, very roughly we can say that those who have surnames ending in -akis are from Crete, -akos from eastern Mani, -eas from western Mani, -opoulos from Peloponnese, -ousis from Tsakonia and Chios, -oulias from south Achaia, -oudis from Macedonia/Thrace, -idis from Pontos and Minor Asia, -oglou from Konstantinoupolis, -atos Kephalonia, -elis from Lemnos and Smyrna, -ou(like Georgiou) from Cyprus, -iotis/-itis/-atis from where the prefix shows(e.g. Veriotis from Veria, Smyrniotis from Smyrna etc), -antis from Pontos(Ypsilantis comes from the village Ypsila(high place) etc etc Do you have any surname in mind, that you want to know where it comes from? Thank you so much, Patrinos, I was hoping for an overview like this one . And yes, I do, actually. It's Panagoulas or Panagoulias...what's the difference between those two names? Is it only because of different pronounciations that some have chosen to leave out or add and 'i' to, for instance, the above mentioned name?
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Post by rex362 on Mar 3, 2011 21:03:08 GMT -5
I am curious about this name ...Tatiana Stefanidou
where is she from ..??
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Post by tsompanos on Mar 4, 2011 6:11:19 GMT -5
You like her rex? shes a milf
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Post by Patrinos on Mar 4, 2011 6:14:40 GMT -5
well, very roughly we can say that those who have surnames ending in -akis are from Crete, -akos from eastern Mani, -eas from western Mani, -opoulos from Peloponnese, -ousis from Tsakonia and Chios, -oulias from south Achaia, -oudis from Macedonia/Thrace, -idis from Pontos and Minor Asia, -oglou from Konstantinoupolis, -atos Kephalonia, -elis from Lemnos and Smyrna, -ou(like Georgiou) from Cyprus, -iotis/-itis/-atis from where the prefix shows(e.g. Veriotis from Veria, Smyrniotis from Smyrna etc), -antis from Pontos(Ypsilantis comes from the village Ypsila(high place) etc etc Do you have any surname in mind, that you want to know where it comes from? Thank you so much, Patrinos, I was hoping for an overview like this one . And yes, I do, actually. It's Panagoulas or Panagoulias...what's the difference between those two names? Is it only because of different pronounciations that some have chosen to leave out or add and 'i' to, for instance, the above mentioned name? Panagoulias could be from everywhere in mainland Greece.But I give more chances to be from Peloponnesos, or Epiros. If its -oulas I give more chances that it comes from Thessaly. -oulas or -oulias are dimunitive suffixes that are used for surnames. Skiporex... why you ask? do you like the mouni of Stefanidou?
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Post by rex362 on Mar 4, 2011 9:54:49 GMT -5
You like her rex? shes a milf ya ya
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Mar 4, 2011 10:17:37 GMT -5
I was just wondering whether or not it's possible to track someone's Greek origins down only by a family name, or maybe a tribe name? Short answer : No. Majority of people can barely trace their roots pre-1900. A minority can trace their roots back to 1800s, but that's the best you can get. Surnames, toponyms are still a mystery in Greece. In my village, (and the majority of mainland Greece), 9/10 of the surnames dont mean a thing in Greek.
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Post by Patrinos on Mar 4, 2011 15:01:32 GMT -5
I was just wondering whether or not it's possible to track someone's Greek origins down only by a family name, or maybe a tribe name? Short answer : No. Majority of people can barely trace their roots pre-1900. A minority can trace their roots back to 1800s, but that's the best you can get. Surnames, toponyms are still a mystery in Greece. In my village, (and the majority of mainland Greece), 9/10 of the surnames dont mean a thing in Greek. pyrrcko... lets make a test. What do the surnames Goulas, Thraskias, Noutsos, Krokas, Lontos, Lolos mean? to inform you, they're are Greek creations.
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Post by zoti on Mar 4, 2011 15:43:34 GMT -5
Can someone explain to me what is mean in Greek surnames like Karipidis, Dokaris, Pallkaris, and Boletivaris? Are these from Crete as well?
Also is Zotis Albanian?
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Post by Patrinos on Mar 4, 2011 16:20:28 GMT -5
Can someone explain to me what is mean in Greek surnames like Karipidis, Dokaris, Pallkaris, and Boletivaris? Are these from Crete as well? Also is Zotis Albanian? I will give you the answers you want after you etymologize the surname Kastrioti.
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