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Post by uz on Mar 30, 2011 12:02:36 GMT -5
I am looking for information regarding Slavic Military and soldier customs.
I have found different things on the net but nothing seems consistent. Apparently the Slavic warriors especially the Southern Slavs didn't believe in armour at all and chose to battle flesh to flesh.
I wonder if anyone here has info on Slavic weaponry, military traditions, soldier customs and anything else if possible.
In specific I would like to know about early Southern Slavs; what were possible traditions in the Balkans. I read somewhere that they revolutionized agriculture to what we have evolved to today.
Any information would be very helpful, thank you all.
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Post by uz on Apr 5, 2011 11:00:06 GMT -5
Anyone have a clue why it is so hard to find information on this?
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Post by rex362 on Apr 5, 2011 11:51:56 GMT -5
seek info in Carpathia ......
revolutionized agrigulture ?? they came bcs they had none in Carpathia
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Post by ulf on Apr 5, 2011 12:40:04 GMT -5
I found this: www.ancientmilitary.com/ancient-slavs.htmrex362, you're an idiot, who came from Carpathian mountains is no question here. Slavs here revolutionized more then Albanians will ever do(as they revolutionized nothing so far, only de-revolutionized)
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Post by ulf on Apr 5, 2011 12:42:04 GMT -5
Also, Serbian tribes came from Gdansk region and that's Baltic coast sea, while Croats came from Slovakia - Ukraine - Poland border
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Post by uz on Apr 5, 2011 12:42:33 GMT -5
'Past historians gave the early Slavs a dove like reputation, particularly when compared to the warlike reputation of their neighbors. This mostly undeserved reputation may be due to the Slavs practice in the Balkans of setting up agricultural settlements around fortified cities while often leaving the cities unmolested. The Slavs did contributed more to agriculture innovation then to the arts of war. Their use of crop rotation and the mould-board plow allowed for greater production in tuff soil. The mould-board plow according to Medieval Life & the Hundred Years War, by James F Dunnigan and Albert A Nofi, allowed the early Slavs to become efficient farmers.'
Slav Warriors Described as being unusually tall and strong, Slavic warriors typically used a wide range of weapons. A single warrior may carry a shield, spear, ax, sling and bow. They were known for their Spartan life style and ancient writers recorded that they were often quick to attack. They used bows and three bladed arrows similar to those used by the steppe nomads. Early armies consisted of only a few hundred men who could move quickly into enemy territory and quickly retreat. The ancient historian Procopius tells us in Wars VII.14, 25, that the Slavs "fight on foot, advancing on the enemy, in their hands they carry small shields and spears, but they never wear body armor".” As the Slavs expanded they began using combined arms tactics, with archers, cavalry and infantry working in unison. Their armies used speed to their advantage and often employed ambushes, flanking assaults and guerilla tactics. They learned how to take fortified cities using siege weapons from the Byzantines and learned cavalry tactics from the steppe nomads. In the North they learned to use Viking style long ships, and even raided Scandinavia giving them a taste of their own medicine. The Slavs may have exchanged their knowledge of bridge building with the Scandinavians in exchange for knowledge of ship construction.
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Post by uz on Apr 5, 2011 12:45:44 GMT -5
"Croats" are an extension of Serbs. The term "Croat" was mainly used by the Romans to differentiate between the "followers" and "non-followers".
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Post by ulf on Apr 5, 2011 12:55:53 GMT -5
"Croats" are an extension of Serbs. The term "Croat" was mainly used by the Romans to differentiate between the "followers" and "non-followers". Not true. Two groups are separate groups of Slavs(I am talking about ancient Slavs)
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Post by rex362 on Apr 5, 2011 13:00:10 GMT -5
they came and took the plowed soil and my ancestors plow but ate the oxes
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Post by ulf on Apr 5, 2011 13:05:14 GMT -5
they came and took the plowed soil and my ancestors plow but ate the oxes Your ancestors were somewhere deep in Sinai or thereabouts back then
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Post by uz on Apr 5, 2011 13:05:46 GMT -5
they came and took the plowed soil and my ancestors plow but ate the oxes ^ thats bullshit. I haven't heard of anything progressive about the Balkans prior to the arrival of the Slavs. The indigenous peoples learned a lot from the newcomers. Despite Byzantine accounts of the ancient Slavs "pillaging" and "looting", many indigenous peoples voluntarily assimilated with the Slavs
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Post by uz on Apr 5, 2011 13:08:22 GMT -5
"Croats" are an extension of Serbs. The term "Croat" was mainly used by the Romans to differentiate between the "followers" and "non-followers". Not true. Two groups are separate groups of Slavs(I am talking about ancient Slavs) The Croats of the ancient times, do not exist anymore. Looking at it from that perspective it would be fair to say most Serbs came from the Croats, which we know is not true. The Croats of today and the Serbs of today are no different from one another.
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Post by ulf on Apr 5, 2011 13:16:43 GMT -5
Not true. Two groups are separate groups of Slavs(I am talking about ancient Slavs) The Croats of the ancient times, do not exist anymore. Looking at it from that perspective it would be fair to say most Serbs came from the Croats, which we know is not true. The Croats of today and the Serbs of today are no different from one another. Obviously they exist since they kept their state name. Perhaps in south-eastern regions of Croatia there are Croatinized Serbs, since early Serbian states held these lands. Anyway if so, it happened a long time ago
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