Hellenas
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Post by Hellenas on Jun 15, 2011 21:23:53 GMT -5
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Kanaris
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Post by Kanaris on Jun 15, 2011 23:09:09 GMT -5
I have heard of that before ... but I fail to see the connection.
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Patrinos
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Post by Patrinos on Jun 16, 2011 3:46:00 GMT -5
lol...shalom...
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rex362
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Post by rex362 on Jun 16, 2011 10:48:56 GMT -5
Bar mistva for you
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Post by ujkdeti on Jun 16, 2011 10:58:22 GMT -5
Hellenas has already declared the Thracians, Illyrians, Dacians, and Celts as being Greeks, so now he is going retroactive and tackling the Hebrews; someday I fear even the dinosaurs will be declared as Hellenes.
IMO, I think someone is confusing the fact that the Greeks borrowed their alphabet from the Afro-Phoenicians (a semitic people) and that the Hebrew (also semitic) alphabet is also derived from the Phoenicians, which is like putting the cart before the horse.
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Kanaris
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Post by Kanaris on Jun 16, 2011 12:58:48 GMT -5
Yeah,but none of those other morons are here today using that alphabet except of course for the Hellens... ;D
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Post by ujkdeti on Jun 16, 2011 13:12:11 GMT -5
Yeah,but none of those other morons are here today using that alphabet except of course for the Hellens... ;D Not that there’s anything wrong with that. The ancient Greeks were smart enough to see the value of the Phoenician alphabet, so they took it and made the nice addition of throwing some vowels in there and started using it to write their own (Greek) words. By extension, it’s how we got the Latin, Cyrillic, etc alphabets so we can, in a day like today, troll the internets. By the way, the Hebrews are still around, they even have a little state that gets more rockets than rain.
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Post by terroreign on Jun 16, 2011 13:27:12 GMT -5
^the difference is, that the greeks innovated while we (other balkan nations) just conformed to the status quo established by them
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Hellenas
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Post by Hellenas on Jun 16, 2011 20:03:17 GMT -5
Hellenas has already declared the Thracians, Illyrians, Dacians, and Celts as being Greeks, so now he is going retroactive and tackling the Hebrews; someday I fear even the dinosaurs will be declared as Hellenes. The owner of this forum( Emperor AAdmin), many Greek and non-Greek Scientists agree with me. As western Archaeologists once used to say "under every stone we search, we find something Greek" and as Friedrich Nietzsche said "I envy and hate the Greeks because they found everything and they left to us to find nothing".Emperor AAdmin."Hellenism is by far the shiniest star from Europe and its cornerstone that shines over the entire planet.""I consider Illyrians but a branch of wider Hellenistic world."illyria.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=forumrules&action=display&thread=6456The proto-Phoenicians were Greek colonists, same story as with the Philistines who later became Palestinians(Arabized) and even Hebrews(Semitized). Take that, it's all for you. Greek alphabet was in use at 6000 BC An article by Pan.Kouvalakis published in "Davlos" magazine Adamantios Sampson en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adamantios_SampsonThe potsherd of 5500-6000 BC, found at the islet Yura of Northern Sporades bearing Greek alphabet letters.The facsimile to the classic Greek letters Alpha, Ypsilon and Delta can be recognized. This find proves that the classic Greek alphabet is older than the Greek linear alphabets. It also demolishes crushingly and definitely the false theory that Greeks took the alphabet from the Phoenicians, who emerged in history around 1150 BC, i.e. 4500-5000 years after the creation of the Yura written potsherd. After the discovery of a wooden plate at Dispilion Kastorias, which was dated at 5300 BC, a new impressive discovery came to light, concerning the "prehistorical" alphabet in the Greek region. In the "Cyclop cave" at the desert islet Yura of Northern Sporades (20 miles out of Alonissos), ceramic fragments of written pots (potsherds) were excavated, upon the surface of which have been carved symbols facsimile with the letters of the classic Greek alphabet. The potsherds are dated between 6000 and 5500 BC. The discovery at the cave in question, is conducted by the archaeologist Adamantios Sampson since 1992 and according to him: "besides the ceramics of the Later Neolithic, we have discovered written potsherds of exceptional quality dated at the end of Early Neolithic and at the beginning of Middle Neolithic. The aceramic layer was dated between 6445 and 6375 BC with the radioactive carbon method, while the layers of the Middle and Early Neolithic (among which are the potsherds) were dated between 6025 and 5955 BC" (A.Sampson, "The Greek Neolithical Civilization", Goulandris Foundation, 1996). In the above study A.Sampson makes no other menthion of the tremendously imprortant discovered Yura potsherds, but confines himself to the description of the fishing activities at the Sporades area during the Neolithic era. The reference material, which he mentions, includes photographs of other finds (fish-hooks, statuettes, decorated pots) from the excavation in question, but not one of the written potsherds. The photograph of one of the written potsherds came out from the newspaper "Adesmeftos Tipos" (presentation of N.Nikitidis 13 February 1997) in a relevant publication under the title "The most ancient alphabet is Greek". On the surface of the potsherd the letters Alpha, Ypsilon, Delta in a row are clearly distinguished, which make up the root of the word "ΑΥΔΗ" (speech, voice), first encountered in "Theogony" (Hesiodus) as well as in "Iliad" (Homer). In the same publication A.Sampson is reported to confirm that "they are alphabet symbols and make up a conscious act of the ceramist" and reserves his total evaluation of the finds for a future scientific paper. It must be noted that only a small part of the cave in question, has so far been excavated, thus, in the immediate future probably, the rest written potsherds will be discovered. When this will happen, it will be possible to make a total evaluation of this ancient alphabet type, which doesn't seem to be different from the classic and modern type. These tremendously important finds justify the historic and linguistic view of the simultaneous creation and evolution of the Greek language and Greek alphabet and render beneath significance and importance the Phoenician theory for the History of Civilization.hellinon.net/NeesSelides/greek_alphabet_was_in_use_at_600.htmwww.prehistory.it/fase2/grecia2.htmen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youra_Potsherds
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Post by tsompanos on Jun 17, 2011 3:17:58 GMT -5
happy hannukah everyone
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Post by Anittas on Jun 17, 2011 8:23:16 GMT -5
Who cares what Aadmin thinks about Hellenism? And what does what Nietzsche said have to do with you? He was referring to the Ancient Greeks.
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Post by odel on Jun 17, 2011 8:45:47 GMT -5
Lol, quoting Aadmin (the owner of this forum) to prove a point.
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Post by gjakova on Jun 17, 2011 9:55:45 GMT -5
AAdmin a scientist or what,dude you're obsessed with hellenism.it's sick dude hellenism used to be a great civilization but now it's normal like all balkan.you greeks ain't nothing more special then the average alb or german.
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Post by rex362 on Jun 17, 2011 9:59:11 GMT -5
^the difference is, that the greeks innovated while we (other balkan nations) just conformed to the status quo established by them innovated ...?? ahhahhahaahh more like copied it down so to claim ....they thought if they wrote it down and recorded it ......instant ownership ...they are jews they had cheese in Karpatia ...don't be fooled by the word Feta
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