Kralj Vatra
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 14, 2011 2:47:55 GMT -5
perhaps, but the last time i looked croatia borders were in tact, and their economy was booming. serbia on the other hand keeps getting smaller and smaller... booming LMAO, what a naive dude!!! man, Croatia is totally bought by the germans, all the markets are open to them (in contrast to serbia), they export to all balkans, (while e.g. Serbia is forbidden to export to Croatia, you know - nazi mentality), Croatia is literally the main exporter to Bosnia, Croatia has been overly advertised by the Germans/west/etc... as a tourist destination, (of course before that, the Germans were careful enough to have bought almost anything tourist in Croatia), while for Serbia, i dont need to repeat what all the world knows : foreign aggression, croatian nazi attacks on the 500,000 serbs of krajna, exodus of 200,000 serbs from kosovo due to the foreign/albaniam aggression, sanctions, bombings which brought damage of over $500,000,000,000 and yet oops..... the GDP figures are quite close..... ($11,255 vs $15,628) LMAO PS i dont even wanna know how the fyrom economy would do, after intense NATO bombing lol!!!! or croatia... or bulgaria.... or greece.... or ... LMAO ... Albania anyway, Serbia is at its minimum now. NATO has strong cooperation with the Serbian army, and a new SERBIAN military base is built near the mako-border (Bujanovac). Be ready for big surprises in the future... If Russia gets stronger, Serbia might ally with the west again (and work with the east as well) (as it did so many times)... in this scenario prepare for ... you know ... deja vu....
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Post by ioan on Sept 14, 2011 13:14:53 GMT -5
Serbs will not dare to attack Macedonia. At least not before they have taken Bulgaria before that. As stupid as it sounds and eventhough the present bg-mc relations are cold I think Bulgaria would always help Macedonia...
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Post by ivo on Sept 14, 2011 13:19:28 GMT -5
As far as I know, the official position of Bulgaria is that an attack on Macedonia will be treated as an attack on Bulgaria.
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Post by ivo on Sept 14, 2011 13:25:20 GMT -5
^ I hope this hasn't changed since we got into the EU.
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Post by terroreign on Sept 14, 2011 14:30:45 GMT -5
hypothetically there won't be any attack on fyrom rather a willful unification of countries.
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Post by ioan on Sept 14, 2011 14:53:05 GMT -5
^ I hope this hasn't changed since we got into the EU. eu isnt a military block so legally nothing regarding the military politics is changed. nato is, its based on the solidarity of its members: attack on one member is considered attack on the others. But it doesnt mean you cant get involved for a non member.
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Post by ivo on Sept 14, 2011 14:59:57 GMT -5
Thanks for clarifying Ioan, I wasn't quite sure.. anyway, this is good. Like you said, even with the heavy anti-Bulgarian propaganda in Macedonia today I still think that Bulgaria would step in.
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Post by Sokol on Sept 14, 2011 19:24:30 GMT -5
there will be no attack on macedonia, and there will be no joining of macedonia with little-serbia or any other country. what you're suggesting is a nightmare scenario. don't rule out turkey from this game aswell. macedonia has signed military agreements with turkey, and co-operation between the two is at a very high level. fyi, the greatest foreign intelligence presence in macedonia at the moment is us, russia, turkey...
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Post by Novi Pazar on Sept 14, 2011 21:52:12 GMT -5
"Slavic dialects began to be created once slavs were under rule of foreigners....and thus their differences from the original slavic language (Serbian) were created.
Russian, under the Verangians, a Germanic-speaking peoples, morphed their language considerably in the beginning stages of their growth.
Similarly, Bulgaro-slavic unquestionably spawned with the influence of the Turkic-speaking rulers over the Serb subjects...creating what you have today; archaic Serbian with a Turkic nasalization."
I'm glad you and Pyrro see this, but glup BuLgari are too bunar (*blind* in old Turkish Bulgarian lang) and confused to think alittle rationally.
"Novi i wasn't being sarcastic, the Bulgarian and "Macedonian" grammars have a plethora of attributes that point directly to influence & contribution from Romance languages, which causes their grammar alone to be more akin in ways to Romance rather than, Slavic languages."
I know you weren't man, l just wanted to reinforce what was said with a couple of quotes to show we arn't BS'ing.
"The Serbs however, lived outside of the foreign yoke rather homogeneously, and this allowed for their natural self-evolution of culture, as well as the impressive preservation of their ancient customs & character."
That is why me and Pyrro have been saying that basing language as souly an indicator to ethnicity is too simplistic of a conclusion. Your right Krivo.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Sept 14, 2011 22:00:11 GMT -5
"The fact that Bulgarian/Macedonian grammer have alot of common features with Romanian and Albanian is just a proof of the role of the Thracian (including Peonian) element in the Bulgarian ethnicity."
BS, have you heard of Vlachs that your Assen assimilated. The Romance influence in Albanian comes from the Vlachs and their language. Thracians were long gone, and your underlying message is that Vardarians are Bulgarians because of this Thracian BS. The Vlachs had influenced heavily upon your language, just as they did to Shqip.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 15, 2011 1:25:37 GMT -5
Serbs will not dare to attack Macedonia. At least not before they have taken Bulgaria before that. As stupid as it sounds and eventhough the present bg-mc relations are cold I think Bulgaria would always help Macedonia... no one implied that. why make up stories like that?
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 15, 2011 1:30:00 GMT -5
"The fact that Bulgarian/Macedonian grammer have alot of common features with Romanian and Albanian is just a proof of the role of the Thracian (including Peonian) element in the Bulgarian ethnicity." BS, have you heard of Vlachs that your Assen assimilated. The Romance influence in Albanian comes from the Vlachs and their language. Thracians were long gone, and your underlying message is that Vardarians are Bulgarians because of this Thracian BS. The Vlachs had influenced heavily upon your language, just as they did to Shqip. if it wasn't for cretan language, greek would have lost all declensions and even worse many forms of the past tense. the thracians-vlahs were a disaster for every language they dealt with.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 15, 2011 1:31:30 GMT -5
there will be no attack on macedonia, and there will be no joining of macedonia with little-serbia or any other country. what you're suggesting is a nightmare scenario. don't rule out turkey from this game aswell. macedonia has signed military agreements with turkey, and co-operation between the two is at a very high level. fyi, the greatest foreign intelligence presence in macedonia at the moment is us, russia, turkey... with little serbia no. but in case serbia gets big, i see another wave of yugo-wannabe in mak and neighboring republics.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Sept 15, 2011 8:56:48 GMT -5
"if it wasn't for cretan language, greek would have lost all declensions and even worse many forms of the past tense. the thracians-vlahs were a disaster for every language they dealt with."
Probably Pyrro brate.
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