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Post by engers on Dec 10, 2007 8:57:09 GMT -5
EU to promptly recognize Kosovo independence - Ischinger____________________________________________________ BERLIN, December 10 (Itar-Tass) -- The European Union (EU) will promptly recognize Kosovo’s independence in case of its unilateral proclamation by Pristina, Wolfgang Ischinger, a German diplomat who represented EU in the group of three international mediators (Russia, the United States, EU) at the talks between Serbia and Kosovo Albanians on the future status of Kosovo, said on Monday in an interview with Radio Berlin Brandenburg broadcasting station. According to Ischinger, EU will reach agreement on the problem within a few days. A number of preconditions will be put forward before the recognition of Kosovo’s independence, including the observance of the law on guarantees of the rights of national minorities and the adoption of the already drafted constitution, he continued. Ischinger pointed to the fact that the independent Kosovo would not be a sovereign country in its own right, like Germany or France, for example. “It will be a state entity, which will continue to be under broad international observation. The NATO troops will continue to be deployed there. A further international presence of the U.N. and, consequently, of EU, will be ensured. This will mean independence under international control,” he stressed. ____________________________________________________ [ftp]http://www.itar-tass.com/eng/level2.html?NewsID=12164650&PageNum=0[/ftp]
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Post by Pejoni on Dec 10, 2007 9:25:10 GMT -5
Fender more bad news ;D ...every diplomat is saying this, but Fender knows better since Russia wont allowe it lol
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Post by Fender on Dec 10, 2007 9:48:31 GMT -5
Ischinger pointed to the fact that the independent Kosovo would not be a sovereign country in its own right, like Germany or France, for example. “It will be a state entity, which will continue to be under broad international observation. The NATO troops will continue to be deployed there. A further international presence of the U.N. and, consequently, of EU, will be ensured. This will mean independence under international control,” he stressed.
So this is what they mean by virtual independance. So there will be no formal recognition at all. What a joke. Your obviously happy with this. Be my guest.
As I said before, only the UN can formally recognise new states. Ischinger vindicates what I have been saying. Even though he doesn't directly say it. His actions betray him.
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Post by donnie on Dec 10, 2007 11:08:57 GMT -5
You're trully a bigger moron than I thought. Are you proud over having found out "EU's secrete motives"? Something that everyone knew? You're a joke.
Of course Kosova will not be sovereign in the same sense as Germany or France. How can you be when you do not have a standing army for starters? Kosova will be very much dependant on foreign subsidies and international protection for some time on. However, this is a START, and it certainly beats staying under the same roof as the ones who've continuously had in their agenda to eradicate us from the face of the earth!
Japan did not receive immediate, full independence after WWII. Their constitution robbs them from the "right" to wage war as a sovereign country, still having large American troops present on their soil. The American naval base in the Okinawa is the biggest in the Pacific. Even they, the world's second biggest economy, aren't fully sovereign.
So buzz off.
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Post by viktor1 on Dec 10, 2007 11:30:11 GMT -5
EU to promptly recognize Kosovo independence... <<< Yeah right, and Jesus was German too...!
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Post by Pejoni on Dec 10, 2007 13:10:14 GMT -5
EU to promptly recognize Kosovo independence... <<< Yeah right, and Jesus was German too...! Jesus was born Jewish and lived his life as a Jew, although historians disagree as to which group of Jews he belonged to. cheers
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Post by meltdown711 on Dec 10, 2007 15:28:28 GMT -5
Jesus never existed at all.
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Post by Fender on Dec 10, 2007 17:49:06 GMT -5
You're trully a bigger moron than I thought. Are you proud over having found out "EU's secrete motives"? Something that everyone knew? You're a joke. Of course Kosova will not be sovereign in the same sense as Germany or France. How can you be when you do not have a standing army for starters? Kosova will be very much dependant on foreign subsidies and international protection for some time on. However, this is a START, and it certainly beats staying under the same roof as the ones who've continuously had in their agenda to eradicate us from the face of the earth! Japan did not receive immediate, full independence after WWII. Their constitution robbs them from the "right" to wage war as a sovereign country, still having large American troops present on their soil. The American naval base in the Okinawa is the biggest in the Pacific. Even they, the world's second biggest economy, aren't fully sovereign. So buzz off. Whats your problem. Don't like the fact that all this who wha has amounted to nothing. Back to square one. This isn't over by a long shot, moron.
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Post by redbaron on Dec 10, 2007 19:30:20 GMT -5
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Post by Duke John on Dec 11, 2007 0:14:03 GMT -5
Just 30 mins ago on my way to work i read from newspaper the same thing. It said that nearly all european countries are ready to accept self declared independence of Kosova without the blessing of UN and it said that Kosova is preparing it self for independence which is going to be very soon.
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Post by Fender on Dec 11, 2007 3:41:31 GMT -5
Just 30 mins ago on my way to work i read from newspaper the same thing. It said that nearly all european countries are ready to accept self declared independence of Kosova without the blessing of UN and it said that Kosova is preparing it self for independence which is going to be very soon. Dream on. Won't happen.
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Post by Fender on Dec 11, 2007 3:47:34 GMT -5
"Japan did not receive immediate, full independence after WWII. Their constitution robbs them from the "right" to wage war as a sovereign country, still having large American troops present on their soil. The American naval base in the Okinawa is the biggest in the Pacific. Even they, the world's second biggest economy, aren't fully sovereign. " Your obviously becoming unhinged donnie. When was Japan not a soverign state after WW2. Do you even understand what the term soverign means. Going by what you have written, obviously you don't. Japan was always a souverign state, even after the the war. They were only occupied, in the same manner as NATO are occupying Kosovo. Japans constitution was changed to reflect its defensive force rather than an offensive military force. The same emporer that was there before the war, remaind in charge after the war. Read up on your history. You make no sense.
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Post by Fender on Dec 11, 2007 3:51:53 GMT -5
EU to debate Kosovo after UN SC 11 December 2007 | 09:09 | Source: Beta BRUSSELS -- The EU foreign ministers yesterday paved the way for a possible agreement on a joint Kosovo stand, reports say.
Beta news agency quoted the chairman of the session, Portuguese Minister Luis Amado, as saying that this stand should become the means of stabilizing not only Kosovo, but the entire region.
At the session, the officials said that the EU is unanimous in the stand that its mission should be deployed in Kosovo, but that the "difficult and complex" solving of the status of Kosovo should be made in agreement with the UN, the international community, as well as with Belgrade and Priština.
EU High Representative Javier Solana stated that, although Belgrade and Priština did not reach an agreement during the negotiations under the auspices of the Contact Group, "this does not mean we cannot continue our search for bilateral agreements between the two sides and the European Union," adding that the EU will continue to do so, with the aim of guaranteeing security in the Western Balkans.
Slovenian Minister Dimitrij Rupel said the majority of the EU's ministers have spoken in favor of Serbia's integration with the EU as soon as possible, of the signing, in a month or two, of the Stabilization and Association Agreement and, after that, of Serbia's becoming a candidate for EU membership.
Rupel pointed out that the debate about Serbia was long and thorough, reiterating that the final decision on the level of Belgrade's cooperation with the Hague tribunal was up to the EU.
As I have said before, its the UNSC first before anything.
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Post by Duke John on Dec 11, 2007 6:49:57 GMT -5
Just 30 mins ago on my way to work i read from newspaper the same thing. It said that nearly all european countries are ready to accept self declared independence of Kosova without the blessing of UN and it said that Kosova is preparing it self for independence which is going to be very soon. Dream on. Won't happen. I am not dreaming anything,its obviously you who is dreaming and denying, thats what finnish news papers are reporting and not me!.
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Post by Duke John on Dec 11, 2007 8:27:37 GMT -5
Here are one biggest news papers of Finland. www.iltalehti.fi/ulkomaat/200712106965791_ul.shtmlit says "Eu supports Independence of Kosovo" a little translate for you! Almoust all European countries are ready to accept the independence of Kosovo without blessing of UN!. ask someone to translate the whole text for you! and enjoy!
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Post by viktor1 on Dec 13, 2007 10:35:21 GMT -5
And did example Solana or Ban Kin Moon said that. NO only some pefedic journalists...cux they don't have better subjects
believe me or not...this is only stupid propaganda!!
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