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Post by Novus Dis on Sept 28, 2011 18:20:02 GMT -5
That'll either propel those lazy/cowardly Serbians to act or it'll make their laziness/cowardliness apart to the entire world. Either way, they'll know that they can't stay lazy/cowardly forever. By the way, a blockade is different from an embargo in that Russia would refuse to trade with any nation that trades with Serbia. All those in Serbia proper should know how Serbs in Kosovo/Metohija feel, eh?
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Post by Novi Pazar on Sept 28, 2011 19:16:44 GMT -5
Novus, i've heard from a friend of mine that a study conducted in Europe showed that Serbs spent more time in front of a Television screen than any other people in Europe. If this is true, this wouldn't surprise me.
Novus, l'm not sure whether a blockade from Russia will do anything, anyway, the government of Serbia is trying to run away from the Russians at all costs.
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Post by Novus Dis on Sept 28, 2011 19:23:30 GMT -5
Novus, i've heard from a friend of mine that a study conducted in Europe showed that Serbs spent more time in front of a Television screen than any other people in Europe. If this is true, this wouldn't surprise me. Novus, l'm not sure whether a blockade from Russia will do anything, anyway, the government of Serbia is trying to run away from the Russians at all costs. The Russians are only damaging Serbdom by trading with Tadic. Serbians must be forced to choose or they'll never make the choice and they'll gladly watch their brothers/sisters die in vain as long as they're not effected. The Serbs of Krajina have lost everything. The Serbs of Bosnia have lost everything. The Serbs of Kosovo/Metohija have lost everything. What have the Serbs of Serbia lost? It is their fault that the Serbs of Krajina, Bosnia and Kosovo/Metohija lost everything. Had they intervened then the bloodshed would've been short or not have happened at all. They need to starve to be jolted from their current zombie state.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Sept 28, 2011 19:47:58 GMT -5
^ I think you have a point, it reminds me of our dole system here in Oz.
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Post by uz on Sept 28, 2011 22:55:39 GMT -5
That'll either propel those lazy/cowardly Serbians to act or it'll make their laziness/cowardliness apart to the entire world. Either way, they'll know that they can't stay lazy/cowardly forever. By the way, a blockade is different from an embargo in that Russia would refuse to trade with any nation that trades with Serbia. All those in Serbia proper should know how Serbs in Kosovo/Metohija feel, eh? Novus, you know already why this is all happening. The world knows that if Russians were in control of the borders no violence at all would errupt and people would be in peace. Instead they send Alb officers and Croatian K-For soldiers at our borders. WTF do they expect right? We Serbs have stood up to giants before, even after getting beaten down a number of times, we come back and they fear us and for good reasons. They potray us like the enemy when all we want is peace. We Serbs are tired of war and they still push it on us. The 90's decade was dedicated to Yugoslavia and anti-Serb propaganda, now we're a decade into the new millenium and they still want to pound on us, what's this all about? Are we this much of a threat against the global-agenda? We sure has hell know this isn't anything new.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 29, 2011 1:25:24 GMT -5
Uz, i dont think they have smth special against Serbs. Serbs were just fit for the job. Kosovo is full of gold, and now Bosnia/Serbia are happy markets for the Croatian-German products + there is no economy/army anywhere in the balkans and this suits them perfectly.
Novus, very clever idea, but it will work for the benefit of the enemy. We all know how the west knows to maximize their victories and minimize their defeats right? If ever Russia decides to do that, next day, the western megaphones will start shouting about russian fascism, cruelty, etc... and the Serbian media (B92) will buy it very well.
Frankly, there hasn't been a single case in history, that anyone defeated any western country politically, without engaging into military action first. But i cannot see how the political game will be won. Serbs must portray the defensive side.
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Post by Novus Dis on Sept 29, 2011 2:30:38 GMT -5
That'll either propel those lazy/cowardly Serbians to act or it'll make their laziness/cowardliness apart to the entire world. Either way, they'll know that they can't stay lazy/cowardly forever. By the way, a blockade is different from an embargo in that Russia would refuse to trade with any nation that trades with Serbia. All those in Serbia proper should know how Serbs in Kosovo/Metohija feel, eh? Novus, you know already why this is all happening. The world knows that if Russians were in control of the borders no violence at all would errupt and people would be in peace. Instead they send Alb officers and Croatian K-For soldiers at our borders. WTF do they expect right? We Serbs have stood up to giants before, even after getting beaten down a number of times, we come back and they fear us and for good reasons. They potray us like the enemy when all we want is peace. We Serbs are tired of war and they still push it on us. The 90's decade was dedicated to Yugoslavia and anti-Serb propaganda, now we're a decade into the new millenium and they still want to pound on us, what's this all about? Are we this much of a threat against the global-agenda? We sure has hell know this isn't anything new. Srbijanci aren't tired of war because they haven't experienced war and if they think that the NATO bombardment was a "war" then they're sadly mistaken. Uz, i dont think they have smth special against Serbs. Serbs were just fit for the job. Kosovo is full of gold, and now Bosnia/Serbia are happy markets for the Croatian-German products + there is no economy/army anywhere in the balkans and this suits them perfectly. Novus, very clever idea, but it will work for the benefit of the enemy. We all know how the west knows to maximize their victories and minimize their defeats right? If ever Russia decides to do that, next day, the western megaphones will start shouting about russian fascism, cruelty, etc... and the Serbian media (B92) will buy it very well. Frankly, there hasn't been a single case in history, that anyone defeated any western country politically, without engaging into military action first. But i cannot see how the political game will be won. Serbs must portray the defensive side. Good. Let everybody know that Russia will not stand idly by and watch as Serbians allow Serb suffering to continue in Kosovo/Metohija unabated. Somebody has to be principled, and it sure as hell won't be Serbians unless their bellies are emptied. Also, this is a mightier stretched but Serbs in the diaspora should boycott Serbian goods.
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Post by uz on Sept 29, 2011 11:23:53 GMT -5
Serbs are tired of war, what the hell are you talking about? It doesn't matter where they're from, war is one of the last desires they have in mind.
You're a self destructive time-bomb.
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Post by Novus Dis on Sept 29, 2011 17:51:26 GMT -5
Serbs are tired of war, what the hell are you talking about? It doesn't matter where they're from, war is one of the last desires they have in mind. How are they Serbs when they're not willing to defend Serbs to any degree? You're a self destructive time-bomb. Pressure must be applied.
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Post by uz on Sept 29, 2011 20:22:20 GMT -5
Serbs are tired of war, what the hell are you talking about? It doesn't matter where they're from, war is one of the last desires they have in mind. How are they Serbs when they're not willing to defend Serbs to any degree? You're a self destructive time-bomb. Pressure must be applied. I guess you're implying that war is the only way. I hope for the sake of everyone you're wrong.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 30, 2011 1:49:32 GMT -5
How are they Serbs when they're not willing to defend Serbs to any degree? Pressure must be applied. I guess you're implying that war is the only way. I hope for the sake of everyone you're wrong. alright pls tell me, how are you gonna convince those 1000s NATO troops in Kosovo to give up their gold, zinc and other precious metals, also their people (albs) and their land that they possess? Would you give away something you possess?
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Post by Novus Dis on Sept 30, 2011 2:57:10 GMT -5
How are they Serbs when they're not willing to defend Serbs to any degree? Pressure must be applied. I guess you're implying that war is the only way. I hope for the sake of everyone you're wrong. Of course not. There's also subversion, passive aggressions, economic war and practically anything. But Serbians aren't doing any of that. They've abandoned Serbs in Kosovo/Metohija without any struggle whatsoever.
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Post by Anittas on Sept 30, 2011 5:42:08 GMT -5
What would Russia benefit from such a blockade?
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Post by uz on Sept 30, 2011 12:09:05 GMT -5
^ Sending a messege to the Int. community, to back off.
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Post by Anittas on Sept 30, 2011 13:26:48 GMT -5
Yes, but what would they benefit from sending such a message to the "Int- community"?
Also, since the proposal suggests that Russia should extend this blockade to any nation that trades with Serbia, they would basically blockade themselves, with Kosovo being the only country they could trade with.
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Post by uz on Sept 30, 2011 14:58:17 GMT -5
They would benifit clearly b/c the Int. community would be reminded on the stance the Russians and the Chinese have. I'm pretty much talking about the East vs. West balance.
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Post by Anittas on Sept 30, 2011 16:59:00 GMT -5
You're talking about political games. The country itself would not benefit anything from it; on the contrary, their economy would crash. What that dude was suggesting was that Russia should stop trading with Serbia and all countries that trades with Serbia. So who would lose the most? Russia and Serbia would. Is that how you want to send a message to the "Int. community"? This proposal reminds me of the Jewish suicide squad in Life of Brian.
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Post by uz on Sept 30, 2011 17:03:37 GMT -5
Of course it's a political game, a game Russia could be winning. I think this is why Russians are pissed at Serbs, cause the Serbian government aren't themselves.
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Post by Anittas on Sept 30, 2011 17:49:28 GMT -5
Can you help explain to me how Russia could be winning? I'm guessing you're thinking of a different tactic. What could Russia do to accomplish the goal of KosovA becoming (de-facto) part of Serbia again?
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Post by uz on Sept 30, 2011 17:57:20 GMT -5
Kosovo being part of Serbia is in Russia's foreign policy.
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