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Post by uz on Oct 10, 2011 20:56:54 GMT -5
UNIK; that is all irrelevent, after the breakup of Yugoslavia the status changed, on top of that UNSC's resolution overrides anything prior. We're not arguing about the treatment of the citizen from both sides, we can go on forever (I'm sure you know) we're strictly debating the legal aspect of this situation and status-perspectives.
My previous posts still stand.
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Post by uz on Oct 10, 2011 21:00:42 GMT -5
Says who? Most of the EU, USA and UK, right?
The United Nations include the whole world, not just Europe and currently most of the world thinks differently.
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Post by Moe Lester on Oct 11, 2011 3:46:13 GMT -5
Haven't 90%+ secession attempts been illegal? Why say some countries aren't allowed to secede illegally, but others aren't?
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Post by Novus Dis on Oct 11, 2011 5:06:08 GMT -5
Kosova when was part of jugoslavia; January 20th of 1953 the status as a Autonomic Region of Kosova was approved by the Yugoslavian Assembly; In 1968, 1971, 1972 peaceful demonstrations occurred throughout Kosova, where Albanians rightfully were demonstrating for an autonomous state; In all of these cases Albanians were put to prison, such as in the case of 1968 where only 13 of them had a hearing and 130 were put to prison without ever getting to have a say. on February 28th of 1974, a new Constitution for Kosova as an Autonomic Region of Yugoslavia was approved by the Yugoslavian Assembly thus making Kosova juridically a federation of Yugoslavia; In 1981 again a peaceful demonstration demanding an autonomous state of Kosova occurred, once again organized by the students. Throughout the demonstrations civilians were attacked by tear-gas and randomly beaten up. Over 300 Albanian intellectuals were arrested and dismissed from their working positions. Let's fast forward to the '90's, where 90% of Albanians got fired from their jobs, the schools and University were closed, teachers and professors got randomly called up to the police station to get a free round of beating-up, a good number of them remained in jail for "resisting arrest". Naturally, no hearings for these people ever occurred. Because of this Albanians used private houses to hold lectures and classes, without any payment. By this time Albanians lived off of the diaspora because they had no other incomes or salaries. In 1990 Albanians formed a legally rightful Assembly of Kosovo, and on July the 2nd 1990 Albanians declared independence and compiled the Constitution of Kosova. Because of this 28 Albanians were killed, thousands of children poisoned in peaceful demonstrations. On Septmber the 26th of 1991 a plebiscite was organized in Kosova, the results of which pointed out de jure the constituionally given right for self-determination. By this time Serbia was already preparing for war and genocide, while Albanians peacefully required what was theirs to have. So what you're saying is that the Shqiptar parasites provoked this whole mess and should be exterminated like the infestation they are?
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Post by derk on Oct 11, 2011 14:27:24 GMT -5
^no what he was saying is irrelevant to what you are saying. Oh by the way, it turns out that you, are an idiot and a racist psychopath...
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Post by Novus Dis on Oct 11, 2011 14:34:42 GMT -5
^no what he was saying is irrelevant to what you are saying. Oh by the way, it turns out that you, are an idiot and a racist psychopath... At least I'm not a Shqiptar. I can be all those things, and more, and I still wouldn't be as bad as a Shqiptar.
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Post by derk on Oct 11, 2011 14:57:00 GMT -5
^no what he was saying is irrelevant to what you are saying. Oh by the way, it turns out that you, are an idiot and a racist psychopath... At least I'm not a Shqiptar. I can be all those things, and more, and I still wouldn't be as bad as a Shqiptar. indeed, you are too stupid to be a shqiptar...
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Post by terroreign on Oct 11, 2011 16:31:46 GMT -5
All countries that seceded form Yugoslavia became successor states of Yugoslavia. Serbia and Montenegro are just the most recent ones. that's not legally true. Uz is right, Serbia is the sole successor of Yugoslavia, just as Turkey was of the ottoman empire, Russia of Soviet empire, etc.
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Post by Novus Dis on Oct 11, 2011 16:38:31 GMT -5
At least I'm not a Shqiptar. I can be all those things, and more, and I still wouldn't be as bad as a Shqiptar. indeed, you are too stupid to be a shqiptar... Nothing, NOTHING, is too stupid to be a Shqiptar.
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Post by alb12345 on Oct 11, 2011 18:10:50 GMT -5
Novus i doubt you have meet any albanian in real life or ever been in kosova like the most a chetnick nacionalists you will grow up someday but stay away from doctors they will lock ya in mental hospital.
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Post by Anittas on Oct 12, 2011 6:38:52 GMT -5
All countries that seceded form Yugoslavia became successor states of Yugoslavia. Serbia and Montenegro are just the most recent ones. that's not legally true. Uz is right, Serbia is the sole successor of Yugoslavia, just as Turkey was of the ottoman empire, Russia of Soviet empire, etc. Why repeat what I said?
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Post by aayy on Oct 16, 2011 13:22:37 GMT -5
No. remember Korea, Vietnam.
You couldn't compare Serbia's status and "Kosovo" status. Serbia is a state recognized by all world countries, while "Kosovo" isn't recognized by the majority of the nations.
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Post by uz on Oct 16, 2011 13:30:13 GMT -5
and to add ^
Kosovo is not self-sufficient in any way. They depend on US/EU tax payer dollars.
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Post by aayy on Oct 16, 2011 13:38:48 GMT -5
I guess Northern Kosovo and RS in Bosnia are exceptions...
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Post by terroreign on Oct 16, 2011 13:45:35 GMT -5
that's not legally true. Uz is right, Serbia is the sole successor of Yugoslavia, just as Turkey was of the ottoman empire, Russia of Soviet empire, etc. Why repeat what I said? sorry didn't read your post.
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