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Post by derk on Nov 10, 2011 12:10:04 GMT -5
Oh by the way; Don't know if anyone has noticed but, when it comes to debating in a civil manner, you (Pazar) and your protégé have failed dramatically. Throughout the argument I have managed to stay calm, civil and mature by defending my stance without resorting to insults or trolling. However, unfortunately for you guys, the same cannot be said. I just thought it would be nice of me to remind you two that before trying to teach people how to debate, you should give it a go yourselves, but not in the way to tried under this thread. In other words, no empty/meaningless threats, no insults (both racial and personal), no trolling, no "one-liners" and definitely no censorship when things get tough
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Post by terroreign on Nov 10, 2011 15:11:56 GMT -5
Sorry Ulf, as I have said, you are the only serb here I like but according to some people here your all of your posts should be deleted from now on because you did not contribute and used a one-liner with a funny photo... you do realize that AAdmin's a Serb, right?
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Post by terroreign on Nov 10, 2011 15:15:09 GMT -5
Oh by the way; Don't know if anyone has noticed but, when it comes to debating in a civil manner, you (Pazar) and your protégé have failed dramatically. Throughout the argument I have managed to stay calm, civil and mature by defending my stance without resorting to insults or trolling. However, unfortunately for you guys, the same cannot be said. I just thought it would be nice of me to remind you two that before trying to teach people how to debate, you should give it a go yourselves, but not in the way to tried under this thread. In other words, no empty/meaningless threats, no insults (both racial and personal), no trolling, no "one-liners" and definitely no censorship when things get tough of course because it's your neck on the line, not theirs....and you're fair game now drko ! ;D
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Nov 10, 2011 15:47:58 GMT -5
Derk insists that I reply so I will.
It seems that there is a consensus here among the Serb mods about him so my assumption is that if one is seeing something incorrectly what are the ads that multiple people are and that such thing is the exact thing. Derk in the past has at times made statements that can be regarded in a at least antagonistic if not instigating manner towards Serbs which is perhaps the reason for such reaction. Derk also seems singled out and perhaps with a reason since I see no focus on anyone else here.
With that said I still say that if people are writing a manner that is non-instigating and just merely expressing opinions then such individuals should be granted the right to do so.
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Post by Anittas on Nov 10, 2011 16:02:01 GMT -5
Cool. Aadmin has spoken without really saying anything concrete on this dispute.
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Post by terroreign on Nov 10, 2011 16:31:55 GMT -5
^Like a true leader.
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Post by vinjak on Nov 10, 2011 17:57:15 GMT -5
Thread has been sanitized, all trash has been deleted....if you insulted,answered an insult,went off topic,had a dummy spit at another member etc etc your azzes have been deleted, except comments from CM's comments directed to Admin and posts from Novi,Derk and Admin. luv you all
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Post by atdhetar on Nov 10, 2011 18:06:00 GMT -5
vinjak you're the most noble of serbs....i mean that's like saying you're the smartest of retards, but still a compliment.
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Post by ivo on Nov 10, 2011 18:20:10 GMT -5
Spoken like a true politician. Anittas, allow me to make your statement a little less redundant.. "Cool. Aadmin has spoken without saying anything." Given that Aadmin is a Serb, I'd say that he's between a hard place and a rock in this situation. It's not easy to go against your own kind, especially considering that the Serbs here have unanimously reached an anti-Derk consensus. The truth is, if I were him I'd probably react the same way. Having said that, I think that censoring Derk is hypocritical. Pazar has initiated antagonistic topics in an instigative manner insulating the Bulgarian nation on multiple occasions. His posts have been much sharper than anything Derk has posted, and these posts appear to have been driven by some sort of racial hate toward Bulgarians.. resulting in degraded discussions where intellect becomes muffled. Pazar has never been reprimanded for his behavior, nor has any objective power expressed disagreement with his highly racist statements. The only two Serbs on here who have expressed dislike for Pazar's views have been Ulf and Srbobran (two of the coolest Serbs on the forum, in my opinion). Actually, Ljubotan and Arsenje were cool too (too bad they're not active anymore) and have called him on his BS on many occasions. Their attempted interventions are much appreciated. The rest however, seem to encourage his behavior either directly or indirectly.
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Post by derk on Nov 10, 2011 18:35:53 GMT -5
Thanks ivo, I think you more or less summarised the whole thing. However there are a few things I want to add:
First of all, I am a big supporter for a more civil forum were swearing or insulting is not allowed but it should hold true for both ordinary members like myself but also moderators and their "allies". Insults are not the way to go. As biased as I may think vinjak is on this, I want him to think of the posts he deleted from this thread- which side insulted the other and which side remained calm and civil? Secondly, all I want is a threat-free, harassment-free forum where I am allowed to say what I want to, be it showing my love or my hate towards a certain country, provided I am very civil and polite about it. Thirdly, I challenge the people accusing me of insulting others prove and justify their accusations. If they do not come up with anything substantial, then it means they are liars, if they can find anything, I will justify my reasons if such a thing happened. I am even willing to come up with numerous examples where "other" members have insulted me and other users.
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Post by ivo on Nov 10, 2011 18:43:08 GMT -5
^ No need to thank me. I'm just being honest.
As I've mentioned before, I believe in freedom of speech.
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Post by derk on Nov 10, 2011 18:53:20 GMT -5
Thread has been sanitized, all trash has been deleted....if you insulted,answered an insult,went off topic,had a dummy spit at another member etc etc your azzes have been deleted, except comments from CM's comments directed to Admin and posts from Novi,Derk and Admin. luv you all I see that you have deleted the posts of the members who supported me but in return failed to delete the posts of UZ where he tries to get the whole thing side-trackked. This, in its self is a hypocrisy.
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Post by vinjak on Nov 10, 2011 19:22:49 GMT -5
Thread has been sanitized, all trash has been deleted....if you insulted,answered an insult,went off topic,had a dummy spit at another member etc etc your azzes have been deleted, except comments from CM's comments directed to Admin and posts from Novi,Derk and Admin. luv you all I see that you have deleted the posts of the members who supported me but in return failed to delete the posts of UZ where he tries to get the whole thing side-trackked. This, in its self is a hypocrisy. Damn what is wrong with you ? read my post again ... CM Mods are not to be deleted or censored by anyone except Aadmin....
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Post by derk on Nov 10, 2011 19:25:05 GMT -5
Then, I apologize, I did not notice the abbreviation regarding commanding moderators, I stand corrected on this one but I still do not agree with you deleting other posts that showed support for me while you could have only deleted insults.
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Post by terroreign on Nov 10, 2011 19:57:34 GMT -5
he deleted all insults derk, and you didn't have any supporters on this thread besides athedar and ivo, one of which is a rabid troll so there ya go.
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Post by derk on Nov 10, 2011 20:00:17 GMT -5
^I do not recall asking you, I was politely asking this to vinjak, guess I will resort to PMs since you have a tendency of answering in his stead.
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Post by terroreign on Nov 10, 2011 20:30:55 GMT -5
democracy entails getting the opinions of the public, it's a b*tch huh
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Post by derk on Nov 10, 2011 20:34:36 GMT -5
^this sub-forum is far from democratic because of the actions of certain people.
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Post by uz on Nov 10, 2011 20:36:21 GMT -5
You're a drama-queen and you should know well enough the emperor doesn't approve.
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Post by ivo on Nov 11, 2011 6:45:19 GMT -5
This is not really a true statement. Your friend Anittas concurred with my views. In fact, he was sick to his stomach in agreement.. remember?
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