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Post by Novi Pazar on Nov 9, 2011 7:14:14 GMT -5
Derk, l have decided to monitor and scrutinise ALL of your posts until you can prove to me that you can debate here. I've let you off the hook so many damn times, now its time for you to change your ways.
PS I encourage you to write to Aadmin, l've got nothing to lose.
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Post by derk on Nov 9, 2011 9:59:06 GMT -5
Before I say something I will regret, I just want you to know that I will not be lowered to your petty standards of "worthiness" I have contacted Aadmin. I will be waiting for his response. I have nothing to lose, you have much more
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Nov 9, 2011 10:57:06 GMT -5
I don't care if someone has any connection with Greeks (I don't know why anyone says this to me since I, BY FAR, love Montenegro MORE versus anything else in the world).
If people are merely expressing their views in a civil manner (not deemed as instigating) then they should be allowed to do so. The forum is about people expressing their views.
That simple.
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Post by uz on Nov 9, 2011 12:07:57 GMT -5
I think everyone would agree with that, but it's also apparent that there has been a major increase in trash topics, and posts (some people have yet to post anything regarding the topic-thread).
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Post by Novi Pazar on Nov 9, 2011 16:56:30 GMT -5
Derk l have given you FREEDOMS but instead of expressing your views and debating here you ONLY brown-nose and crap stir other posters. I haven't seen you once debate in a topic, all you do is focus on smearing the poster but not the topic. I won't tolerate this behaviour from you.
I'm giving you a chance, if you can prove yourself by debating here, then l will let you of the hook, otherwise your posts will be heading to the trash bin.
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Post by derk on Nov 9, 2011 18:01:17 GMT -5
^I have already told you before. I do not -repeat- do not have to prove myself to you. You have no right or power to make me. You have as of today, deleted all my recent posts in the serbian forum and have failed to justify your reasons excepts for the fact that they are different from your opinions. Forums are not only for debating but for expressing someone's views, in a civil manner of course. And I have been very civil, not insulting anyone unlike your protégé. I have contacted Aadmin as I have stated before. He has so kindly spared his time for this problem and I am expecting it will not be too long until your childish treatment of me ends for good. When this is all over, I will be expecting an apology from you as any mature man would do.
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Post by uz on Nov 9, 2011 18:04:27 GMT -5
When have you debated? You have only insulted forumers, and encourage the others to follow. I personally don't care what the hell happens, as long as the reg-people from here know what you're all about.
I still think your purpose here in the long run helps the Serb cause anyway.
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Post by derk on Nov 9, 2011 18:09:10 GMT -5
^I have never, NEVER, insulted anyone. I admit I from time to time post irrelevant posts but I keep it at that. If we were to clean the whole forum of that, 30% of the posts would have to go. Plus, Novi has made it clear that he is deleting ALL my posts, regardless of the content.
I am through with talking about Novi for now, Aadmin will decide and I trust he will do the right thing. Derk Out.
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Post by vinjak on Nov 9, 2011 18:37:40 GMT -5
I got Novi's back on this...this member Derk has on many occasions insulted members here both as individuals and collectively with the goal of instigating and provoking reactions, but, the most sickening trait of this person is the constant brown nosing of all members that have anything negative to express against Serbs and Serbia, the goal is to provoke reactions, and this can be clearly seen by the way this "Derk" encourages haters with one liners, thumbs up and smileys but never has anything constructive to add, this in itself is highly provocative. The haters can express themselves if done within the rules, but the cheerleader w**res dont have anything to contribute, the only goal is to inflame and to prevent any discussions forming.
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Post by uz on Nov 9, 2011 18:44:33 GMT -5
^I have never, NEVER, insulted anyone. I admit I from time to time post irrelevant posts but I keep it at that. If we were to clean the whole forum of that, 30% of the posts would have to go. Plus, Novi has made it clear that he is deleting ALL my posts, regardless of the content. I am through with talking about Novi for now, Aadmin will decide and I trust he will do the right thing. Derk Out. Thats it this is your response? Your going to drop all responsibility on aadmin to decide, that's quite the position you put him in. Cowardly move in my books. Defend the accusations if you can, or admit guilt, and maybe everyone will calm down.
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Post by derk on Nov 9, 2011 18:50:31 GMT -5
I got Novi's back on this...this member Derk has on many occasions insulted members here both as individuals and collectively with the goal of instigating and provoking reactions, but, the most sickening trait of this person is the constant brown nosing of all members that have anything negative to express against Serbs and Serbia, the goal is to provoke reactions, and this can be clearly seen by the way this "Derk" encourages haters with one liners, thumbs up and smileys but never has anything constructive to add, this in itself is highly provocative. Instigating behaviour is insulting someone, or some country in some cases in the forum. I never instigate in such a way. I give thumbs up, so what? It is perfectly normal to laugh and support someone's opinions. Oh wait- if its not same as yours I should do it cos its "instigating" right?. I never signed a contract saying I have to say something constructive every post. I can merely support other people's posts which I also agree on. Your reasoning here is childish and immature. Worse, you are biased and trying to alter The Emperor's judgement with your subjective opinion. Don't get me wrong, you can state it, its perfectly normal but I think it is rather useless at this point as it is VERY clear which side is right and which side is wrong. As long as someone doesn't personally insult someone, there should be no reason to delete posts... Even "instigating" is not a reason to delete posts. If someone was instigating, that would earn them a tag. I had that tag before but after taking it through it the administration team, I accepted the fact that I had insulted someone and apologised, improved my behaviour in that particular area. HOWEVER, in this case I am 100% right and there is no way of justifying a certain mod's actions towards me. PS: Saying that I don't contribute is not justification
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Post by derk on Nov 9, 2011 18:57:29 GMT -5
^I have never, NEVER, insulted anyone. I admit I from time to time post irrelevant posts but I keep it at that. If we were to clean the whole forum of that, 30% of the posts would have to go. Plus, Novi has made it clear that he is deleting ALL my posts, regardless of the content. I am through with talking about Novi for now, Aadmin will decide and I trust he will do the right thing. Derk Out. Thats it this is your response? Your going to drop all responsibility on aadmin to decide, that's quite the position you put him in. Cowardly move in my books. Defend the accusations if you can, or admit guilt, and maybe everyone will calm down. I have no guilt to admit. At the end of the day, it will become clear that I was right all along. Not liking someone's posts and claiming they are not contributing are not reasons to delete EVERY post of someone. It is also not a cowardly more, there is only 1 person here who can sort this out and it is Aadmin. If someone breaks the law by trying to bring his own justice, things get out of hand. In this particular case, Novi has violated a very basic forum and moderation rule and I rest the case in someone who is more powerful and fair than him.
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Post by uz on Nov 9, 2011 18:58:24 GMT -5
and you advocate democracy.... lol such a shame. So much hypocritical about you.
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Post by vinjak on Nov 9, 2011 19:00:19 GMT -5
I got Novi's back on this...this member Derk has on many occasions insulted members here both as individuals and collectively with the goal of instigating and provoking reactions, but, the most sickening trait of this person is the constant brown nosing of all members that have anything negative to express against Serbs and Serbia, the goal is to provoke reactions, and this can be clearly seen by the way this "Derk" encourages haters with one liners, thumbs up and smileys but never has anything constructive to add, this in itself is highly provocative. Instigating behaviour is insulting someone, or some country in some cases in the forum. I never instigate in such a way. I give thumbs up, so what? It is perfectly normal to laugh and support someone's opinions. Oh wait- if its not same as yours I should do it cos its "instigating" right?. I never signed a contract saying I have to say something constructive every post. I can merely support other people's posts which I also agree on. Your reasoning here is childish and immature. Worse, you are biased and trying to alter The Emperor's judgement with your subjective opinion. Don't get me wrong, you can state it, its perfectly normal but I think it is rather useless at this point as it is VERY clear which side is right and which side is wrong. As long as someone doesn't personally insult someone, there should be no reason to delete posts... Even "instigating" is not a reason to delete posts. If someone was instigating, that would earn them a tag. I had that tag before but after taking it through it the administration team, I accepted the fact that I had insulted someone and apologised, improved my behaviour in that particular area. HOWEVER, in this case I am 100% right and there is no way of justifying a certain mod's actions towards me. PS: Saying that I don't contribute is not justification Bingo ...Admin you yourself wrote a while ago on the behavior (admited to by this member) something on the lines of, how members who use one liners etc ...I cannot remember the exact words you used but I do recall that it was frowned upon. It is also not a cowardly more, there is only 1 person here who can sort this out and it is Aadmin. If someone breaks the law by trying to bring his own justice, things get out of hand. In this particular case, Novi has violated a very basic forum and moderation rule and I rest the case in someone who is more powerful and fair than him.Yup and there is the evidence of brown nosing that I mentioned previously.
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Post by derk on Nov 9, 2011 19:00:22 GMT -5
and you advocate democracy.... lol such a shame. I see no correlation between my post and your assumption what so ever. I would ask you to explain further but it would get us side-tracked.
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Post by derk on Nov 9, 2011 19:04:01 GMT -5
Instigating behaviour is insulting someone, or some country in some cases in the forum. I never instigate in such a way. I give thumbs up, so what? It is perfectly normal to laugh and support someone's opinions. Oh wait- if its not same as yours I should do it cos its "instigating" right?. I never signed a contract saying I have to say something constructive every post. I can merely support other people's posts which I also agree on. Your reasoning here is childish and immature. Worse, you are biased and trying to alter The Emperor's judgement with your subjective opinion. Don't get me wrong, you can state it, its perfectly normal but I think it is rather useless at this point as it is VERY clear which side is right and which side is wrong. As long as someone doesn't personally insult someone, there should be no reason to delete posts... Even "instigating" is not a reason to delete posts. If someone was instigating, that would earn them a tag. I had that tag before but after taking it through it the administration team, I accepted the fact that I had insulted someone and apologised, improved my behaviour in that particular area. HOWEVER, in this case I am 100% right and there is no way of justifying a certain mod's actions towards me. PS: Saying that I don't contribute is not justification Bingo ...Admin you yourself wrote a while ago on the behavior (admited to by this member) something on the lines of, how members who use one liners etc ...I cannot remember the exact words you used but I do recall that it was frowned upon. I too frown upon one-line users (this sometimes includes me too) but as I have said, someone here is yet to give me a justification of deleting EVERY post of mine. None of the things you and UZ have said here are just reasons for such immature actions. One-liners usually do not contribute but are very useful for summarising and/or supporting/opposing someone else's view.
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Post by uz on Nov 9, 2011 19:06:34 GMT -5
and you advocate democracy.... lol such a shame. I see no correlation between my post and your assumption what so ever. I would ask you to explain further but it would get us side-tracked. Your leaving it up to the somewhat "dictator" (the good kind of the forum. You advocate how this forum is under tyranny by the mods, you also advocate freedom of speech. So now speech, defend yourself from the accusations, don't run behind aadmin just b/c things now got hot. Stand for yourself and decide your own fate, Mr. Freedom fighter.
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Post by derk on Nov 9, 2011 19:11:42 GMT -5
Yes, this forum is indeed under tyranny of a certain mod right now, as we have been discussing for some time now...
I stand by what I said, I am waiting for Aadmin's decision. I will attend a match where the opposition is on steroids and I am forced to wear a blindfold by my rival. Novi has made it clear that he will delete all my posts, which he has done. In return of this childish act, I am doing the mature thing... Waiting for the referee to do the rightful thing.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Nov 9, 2011 19:43:27 GMT -5
Guys, l won't back down, if l lose my moderatorship and membership here, then so be it, l really don't give a rats. Derk must change his ways, l will continue to TRASH his posts directed towards other members. His showing some signs, now, that he can debate a topic, lets see whether he can do it elsewhere.
PS Has Derk got the ability to open a topic and debate his views instead of brown-nosing and smearing other members?
TO DERK:
Derk l will never ever give you an apology because you won't ever give anybody else an apology for your obnoxious behaviour!
AMEN
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Post by derk on Nov 9, 2011 19:51:46 GMT -5
Did I just see signs that you are giving up Novi?
"His showing some signs, now, that he can debate a topic, lets see whether he can do it elsewhere."
Seems like you are ready to tell people I improved and you lift your so-called "ban" on me... You have no right to trash my posts like that and everyone, even your serb friends who do not like me know this. It will not be be very long until Aadmin sees the situation and imposes a rightful penalty on you. You are simply "writing checks your body cannot cash". You have too much to lose and you are still betting on a losing game, I guess there are more personal reasons behind this which I choose not to get involved to. I personally don't care whether you are mod or not, as long as you are not using your powers unjustly to mistreat people.
As I have said, an apology will be enough...
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