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Post by kartadolofonos on Dec 7, 2011 21:06:38 GMT -5
The Janitzar Nicola Gruevski**Prime Minister of FYROM has Greek roots* !! The nationalist Prime Minister of FYROM, Nikola Gruevski which does not hesitate to shows at every opportunity the hate as Person against Greece. Nikola Gruevski has a 'secret' knows to hide well or tries to forget.* Most of the Greeks ignore tha Nikola Gruevski has Greek roots his grandparents fought for the freedom of Greece. As we read in the 'wikipedia line' Mr Nicolas Gruevski was born on 31 AUGUST 1970 in Skopje. The origin is from Achlada of the region Florina of Western Macedonia, That is a region of Greece. His family had the surname Grouios ΓΡΟΥΙΟΣ. His Grandfather Grouios (1911 - 1940 ) fought as soldier in the Greek Army during the Greco italian War. He died in the military hospital ON 19 NOVEMBER 1940.* His name is carved in Monument as Hero of Achláda 4.bp.blogspot.com/_tpuy0OtDufo/TJjVOnEH7DI/AAAAAAAAADA/2M2WPbk_IE0/s1600/grouios-mnimeio-kontino25.jpg [/img] Together with their compatriots of Achlada who were killed in its Balkan wars, In the Asia Minor campaign and the World War II. His Mother is a moglena vlach with close relatives in archangelo village in the region Pellas in Western Macedonia Greece Nicola Gruevski has been Prime Minister of FYROM on 27 August 2006, Following the victory of his party VMRO-DPMNE won the parliamentary elections on 5 July 2006.* After the end of the civil war in 1949, The Grandmother and his Father Nikola Gruevski found in the Yugoslavian territory of the current Fyrom. The Prime minister of FYROM likes to call itself " Macedonian ' AND hated as Nothing NAMELY his homeland Greece.
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Post by Sokol on Dec 7, 2011 21:11:42 GMT -5
Nikola Gruevski's grandfather was from Aegean Macedonia, and so Gruevski is part Aegean Macedonian. Many great Macedonian patriots have come from Aegean Macedonia, and Nikola is just one of them.
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Post by kartadolofonos on Dec 7, 2011 21:29:46 GMT -5
Chento his grandfather fought for Greek-Macedonia and not for Yugoslavia
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Post by Sokol on Dec 7, 2011 21:35:58 GMT -5
Other famous Macedonian patriots from Aegean Macedonia Goce Delcev Apostol Petkov Krste Misirkov Dimitar Vlahov - Premier of SR Macedonia
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Post by kartadolofonos on Dec 7, 2011 22:23:44 GMT -5
Chento I do not want to annoy you !!! Greek Macedonia was threaten by Bulgarian Komitadji
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Post by Sokol on Dec 7, 2011 22:27:36 GMT -5
Chento I do not want to annoy you !!! Greek Macedonia was threaten by Bulgarian Komitadji Macedonia was not Greek, until your govt made it majority greek after 1913. Most of Macedonia was Slavic before then, despite the church affiliations of its people. BTW, that calender is from VMRO-BND ie., the Sofia based pro-Bulgarian party. They are also threat to R.Macedonia today.
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Post by kartadolofonos on Dec 7, 2011 23:01:55 GMT -5
Chento thats not true he majority of the population in Southern Macedonia was ethnic Greek. Greek Macedonian become not the majority until the Population exchange with Turkey that is bullshiit. Take a look to the ottoman statistics of macedonia Greeks
Here is a Greek Film The brave of the north - war (1970) sorry it is in Greek about atrocities commited by the Bulgarian Komitadji. He killed and terrorize the Greek population of Greek macedonia to became Bulgars.
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Post by Sokol on Dec 7, 2011 23:53:33 GMT -5
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Post by kartadolofonos on Dec 8, 2011 0:21:44 GMT -5
Chento
According to The League of Nations, the population data for Southern Macedonia in 1926 was the following:
Greeks 1,341,000 (88.8%)
Bulgarians 77,000 (5.1%)
Muslims 2,000 (0.1%)
Others (mainly Vlachs and Jews) 91,000 (6.0%)
Greece was attacked and occupied by Nazi-led Axis during World War II. By the beginning of 1941 the whole of Greece was under a tripartite German, Italian and Bulgarian occupation. The Bulgarians were permitted to occupy western Thrace and parts of Greek Macedonia, where they persecuted and committed massacres and other atrocities against the Greek population. The once thriving Jewish community of Thessaloniki was decimated by the Nazis, who deported 60,000 of the city's Jews to the death camps of Germany and German-occupied Poland. Large Jewish populations in the Bulgarian occupied zone were deported by the Bulgarian army and had an equal death rate to the German zone.
The Bulgarian Army occupied the whole of Eastern Macedonia and Western Thrace, where it was greeted from a part of a Slav-speakers as liberators.[25] Unlike Germany and Italy, Bulgaria officially annexed the occupied territories, which had long been a target of Bulgarian irridentism.[26] A massive campaign of "Bulgarisation" was launched, which saw all Greek officials deported. This campaign was successful especially in Eastern and later in Central Macedonia, when Bulgarians entered the area in 1943. All Slav-speakers there were regarded as Bulgarians. However it was not so effective in German occupied Western Macedonia. A ban was placed on the use of the Greek language, the names of towns and places changed to the forms traditional in Bulgarian.
Florina became Lerin Edessa Became Voden etc....
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Post by Sokol on Dec 8, 2011 0:29:52 GMT -5
and how long did this last karta? 1941-1945? this does not compare to 100 years of concerted and deliberate policy of the greek state of ethnic genocide of the slavic population of greece, which continues to this day in a less severe form. we are still here though, and the name issue only keeps the whole issue of the ethnic macedonian minority in greece alive...
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Post by kartadolofonos on Dec 8, 2011 1:01:38 GMT -5
. The first Macedonian struggle between Greeks and Bulgarians that took place in the Ottoman Empire. During this struggle there was no official declaration of war until 1913. The historical, political, cultural and geographical characteristics of the region are instrumental in understanding the facts that led to this war. The Macedonian struggle was a result of two other wars. The Russo-Turkish war (1877-1878) that was the cause of the expansionist policy of the Bulgarians and the Greco-Turkish war in 1897 where the Greeks were defeated. It is often said that this struggle started after the arrival of the Young Turks in 1094 and ended in 1908. In fact it had two different periods: 1897-1904 when the Bulgarians kept terrorizing the Greeks and 1904-10908 when the Greeks decided to react. It actually ended in 1912. In September of 1900 the comitadjis shot captain Kotta in the context of executing the Slavophone Greeks that blocked their plans. In 1912, just before the Balkan Wars, Lazos Dougiamas and Athanasios Betzios were murdered also by Bulgarians. During the Turkish domination Macedonia it was divided in three “problematic vilayets”, those of Monastiri, Thessaloniki and Skopje where the Turks had send about 200.000 soldiers. Monastiri was the seat of the 3rd Army Corps with 10.000 soldiers and 100 cannons. In the decade of 1860 the first Greco-Bulgarian conflict took place. The reason was that the Ottomans allowed the creation of the Bulgarian Exarchate in order to give an impulse to the independence of the Bulgarian church. But the Bulgarians used this fact to forward their expansionist policy in Macedonia and Thrace. A part of this policy was also the incorporation of eastern Rumelia despite its many Greek inhabitants. The “Supreme Macedonian Committee” was created in Sofia in 1895. In 1900 the Bulgarians took action by finding supporters and secret agents as well as by creating a powerful army. They also created a committee in every village. There was a leader (Natsalnik), a treasurer, an emissary and a kind of public court of law. Furthermore, armed groups (Militsia) were set up in every village and helped the regular army. Each of these armed groups had its leader, the voivod. The soldiers were carrying rifles, revolvers, 200 bullets, grenades and knives. Their regimentals were simple and of waterproof fabric. They wore rustic shoes (tsarouhia) and thick socks that reached up to their knees. They also wore capes of wool and caps on their heads. Their mission was to organize the struggle as well as to terrorize and punish those who reacted. These groups of comitadjis started persecutions against the Greeks, the Slavs and the Vlachs of Macedonia. Their victims were mostly priests, teachers, scientists and other wealthy citizens. Their goal was to convert the inhabitants to the Bulgarian Exarchate and finally to occupy Macedonia. The Greek civil war of 1945-1947 was really a continuation of struggles born during the Second World War. In 1936-1940 General Ioannis Metaxas dissolved the Greek parliament and established himself as dictator under the restored monarch of Giorgios II. During the Second World War the Balkans was a secondary theater of operations. Organized resistance in Greece was broken and the country suborned to a combined German, Italian, and Bulgarian occupation. The Greek and Yugoslav Communist parties,in particular, succeeded in mobilizing large-scale partisan resistance and placing real military pressure on occupation forces. Chento can you explain ? Why Southern Serbia (Vardarska) became 1945, the Socialist Republic of Macedonia and adopted Macedonian as its official language. ? Ancient Macedonia is older than SRMJ ! I'am a little bit confused about your signature,support of bulgarian BMPO
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Post by missanthropology58 on Dec 8, 2011 13:38:48 GMT -5
To be honest he looks like both
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Post by Kanaris on Dec 8, 2011 14:23:35 GMT -5
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Post by rex362 on Dec 8, 2011 14:28:02 GMT -5
that's what they called those Bulgarians EGETSKA MAKEDONCI/SKI when they forced them out to be replaced by the Christians from Asia Minor they ended up in my neck of the woods and here we are today ... many hundreds of years in the Agean area and now they living in my backyards telling me they been here forever while calling me turcina and or newcomers ......the audacity they have then we have the Pirin Makedonci .....but at least they know they are Bulgarian
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Post by missanthropology58 on Dec 8, 2011 14:29:31 GMT -5
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Dec 12, 2011 8:08:43 GMT -5
Gruevski's ancestor was one of the many Serbs of Greece. His surname was Grujic. (Grujos the greekified version)
So Karta, WHAT THE FUCK DOES "GRUJ" means in Greek?
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Post by rex362 on Dec 12, 2011 10:10:16 GMT -5
relax Pyrros ....serbian this and serbian that syndrome ...not all slavic within greece is strictly serbian
slav connection is the answer and that could mean many types of slavs but in greeces case its predominantly Bulgarian
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Dec 12, 2011 10:33:02 GMT -5
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Post by rex362 on Dec 12, 2011 10:44:22 GMT -5
I am a betting man and I can safely say that back in the days way back all the slavs in the balkans had a more closer/common language than today different slavic groups .....especially bcs of a more village mentality and the Churches
btw ....the wife and inlaws let you back in I see
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Dec 13, 2011 3:11:50 GMT -5
^^^ pathetic
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