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Post by Bill on Dec 14, 2011 15:17:02 GMT -5
Me and some boys were out drinking some beer last night. On the way back, while I was driving my tractor, we came across a very interesting coincidence... You know, we eat turkey on thanksgiving and I thought maybe, just maybe, the turks were the first ones to celebrate thanksgiving. And we named it after them. Its like the inventor names shit after him right? Like that sauna thing rich people have. So do you guys have any idea whatsoever on the matter? When did turks come over here? Before us? Cos' I know that we weren't the first ones here, at least someone told me about some guys living here before we did. Probably British or somethin'. Well, thanks for your help fellas.
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Post by Vizier of Oz on Dec 14, 2011 15:32:34 GMT -5
Why A Turkey Is Called A Turkey
by Robert Krulwich
Here's the puzzle:
The bird we eat on Thanksgiving is an exclusively North American animal. It is found in the wild on no other continent but ours. It evolved here. So why is this American bird named for a Eurasian country?
To find out, I went back to an interview I did almost 30 years ago on NPR's Morning Edition with Mario Pei, a Columbia University professor of Romance languages, who died shortly after our conversation.
I return to his answer because it is still the best one available.
Professor Pei had two theories.
First, in the 1500s when the American bird first arrived in Great Britain, it was shipped in by merchants in the East, mostly from Constantinople (who'd brought the bird over from America).
Since it wholesaled out of Turkey, the British referred to it as a "Turkey coq." In fact, the British weren't particularly precise about products arriving from the East. Persian carpets were called "Turkey rugs." Indian flour was called "Turkey flour." Hungarian carpet bags were called "Turkey bags."
If a product came to London from the far side of the Danube, Londoners labeled it "Turkey" and that's what happened to the American bird. Thus, an American bird got the name Turkey-coq, which was then shortened to "Turkey."
Or…Theory No. 2 (and maybe both theories are correct): Long before Christopher Columbus went to America, Europeans already had a wild fowl they liked to eat. It came from Guinea, in Western Africa. It was a guinea fowl, imported to Europe by, yes, Turkish merchants. It was eaten in London. So it got the nickname Turkey coq, because it came from Constantinople.
When British settlers got off the Mayflower in Massachusetts Bay Colony and saw their first American woodland fowl, even though it is larger than the African Guinea fowl, they decided to call it by the name they already used for the African bird. Wild forest birds like that were called "turkeys" at home. www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=97541602
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Bill
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Post by Bill on Dec 14, 2011 15:39:45 GMT -5
So what you are saying is that turks didn't go to America? Then why the hell is Turkey called turkey if they didn't know about the bird?
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Post by elemag on Dec 14, 2011 18:12:00 GMT -5
According to certain Turkish members here, the Sitting Bull was Turk. Apart from this, I still wonder under what nick this Bill guy has posted so far.
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Post by Anittas on Dec 14, 2011 19:46:20 GMT -5
So what you are saying is that turks didn't go to America? Then why the hell is Turkey called turkey if they didn't know about the bird? This guy can't be for real. Lolz. Oh, and he wrote Alabama as his location.
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Post by Bill on Dec 15, 2011 6:52:34 GMT -5
According to certain Turkish members here, the Sitting Bull was Turk. Apart from this, I still wonder under what nick this Bill guy has posted so far. Who is this sittin' bull you are talking about buddy? Is he famous or somethin'?
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Post by missanthropology58 on Dec 15, 2011 8:34:18 GMT -5
Lol Turks call it Turkey because Kemal Ata had a farm full of Turks.
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Bill
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Post by Bill on Dec 15, 2011 11:43:36 GMT -5
So what you are saying is that turks didn't go to America? Then why the hell is Turkey called turkey if they didn't know about the bird? This guy can't be for real. Lolz. Oh, and he wrote Alabama as his location. Hey buddy, I am in fact real, and I live in Alabama but what's so wrong about it? We in the glorious state of Alabama live a happy and peaceful life, ever missing the days of the old glorious south. Where are you from old sport.
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elemag
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Post by elemag on Dec 15, 2011 15:20:16 GMT -5
Can't you google for him before asking ignorant questions?
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Bill
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Post by Bill on Dec 15, 2011 16:13:28 GMT -5
Can't you google for him before asking ignorant questions? Why angry at me old sport? I ain't done anything wrong buddy. Where are ya from?
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Post by elemag on Dec 16, 2011 5:35:08 GMT -5
I am not angry, mate. Just a little bit buffled why you haven't heard of the Sitting Bull since this guy is quite a famous figure in American history. I am Bulgarian, btw.
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Post by Anittas on Dec 16, 2011 9:49:51 GMT -5
This Bull dude ain't for real. He's pulling our legs.
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Post by aayy on Dec 16, 2011 15:13:00 GMT -5
What is Turkish name for their country Turkey? Does it sound similar?
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Post by elemag on Dec 16, 2011 18:43:52 GMT -5
Yeah>
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Post by Vizier of Oz on Dec 18, 2011 14:57:53 GMT -5
According to certain Turkish members here, the Sitting Bull was Turk. Apart from this, I still wonder under what nick this Bill guy has posted so far. I do not know about Sitting Bull, but Khan Kubrat was a Turk.
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Post by Vizier of Oz on Dec 18, 2011 14:58:43 GMT -5
So what you are saying is that turks didn't go to America? Then why the hell is Turkey called turkey if they didn't know about the bird? You did the read the article?
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Post by Vizier of Oz on Dec 18, 2011 15:01:40 GMT -5
What is Turkish name for their country Turkey? Does it sound similar? Some parts of our country is called Russia temporarily, we call it Great Tartaria. ;D
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Post by elemag on Dec 21, 2011 8:05:27 GMT -5
And your plans to put an end to this temporary status quo are?
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Post by Vizier of Oz on Dec 23, 2011 13:59:19 GMT -5
And your plans to put an end to this temporary status quo are? My plans are restricted to have fun with our Russian beauty namely aayy.
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