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Post by terroreign on Feb 18, 2012 19:48:47 GMT -5
*Title fixed*
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Post by Shqipni13 on Feb 18, 2012 20:54:30 GMT -5
Uz, by saying Kosova is Europe's poorest country, (thanks to Serbia not treating it as the holy land that they claim) have you recognized?
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Post by uz on Feb 18, 2012 20:56:50 GMT -5
Notice the (") in "country". And if Kosovo was globally concidered part of Serbia, you wouldn't be Europes' poorest "country" now would you?
You guys had your chance to rebuild with all the autonomy over the years, yet chose not to. Your politicians at the time were stealing from STATE-funds, hence why the autonomy was taken away. The K-albs have the chance now, yet in reality they don't, this "new-country" already has stability issues and human rights groups all over it.
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Post by Shqipni13 on Feb 18, 2012 21:10:37 GMT -5
^Some consider, some don't. Oh well, the time will come where your politicians recognize. I wonder what chaos that would lead to in Serbia.
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Post by uz on Feb 18, 2012 21:13:32 GMT -5
^Some consider, some don't. Oh well, the time will come where your politicians recognize. I wonder what chaos that would lead to in Serbia. What benefit would Serbia gain from recognizing Kosovo? There is none let me tell you, in fact Serbia has much more reasons not-to recognize. Plus, all that matters is that we got China and Russia in the UNSC seats pleading our case, while UN still recognizing the ACTUAL status of Kosovo - Kosovo-UNMIK. For any change to really happen for Kosovo, Russia and China need to recognize you, then Serbia, then the UN. When pigs fly right... Remember; Kosovo NEEDS Serbia, not the other way around. So far Serbia is doing fine.
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Post by Shqipni13 on Feb 18, 2012 21:30:29 GMT -5
^Lol. Why does Kosova need Serbia? The way I see things happening in the near future.....Serbia is offered the northern sliver. Your government accepts and recognizes the rest of Kosova as sovereign. They claim it as a victory. There will be some riled up cetniks (novus) but they are insignificant. I'm assuming Trepça lies on Serbian side otherwise Belgrade wouldn't give a damn. But you guys always had foreigners and Albanians working the mines anyways. You wouldn't be able to extract the full benefits out of there. It's hard labor and foreign firms will rape the shit out of it anyways.
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Post by uz on Feb 18, 2012 21:39:03 GMT -5
Serbia doesn't have to recognize Kosovo to gain control of the North, this will happen when Thaci admits not having control over it and gives up, the North will be used for stategic gains for Belgrade. The buffer-zone will be pushed further. Serbia has all to gain here, remember... since we "lost kosovo", you guys have all to lose.
The EU-ticket doesn't apply anymore, Belgrade is finally publicly admitting the peoples' will is not to be apart of such a union. What else can the Serbs be brided with?
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Post by Shqipni13 on Feb 18, 2012 21:51:35 GMT -5
Bribes won't be necessary. When your government realizes that they got what they want they will give in. There is nothing in the rest of Kosova for Serbia. The Serbs don't need 95% Albanian Kosova, once you extract the north. Why would Serbia want the headache? For a few decrepit monasteries? Or do you guys feel like our big brothers and deep down care for us thinking that we can't run things ourselves so you need to overlook upon us? Hahaha seriously man wtf.
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Post by uz on Feb 18, 2012 22:00:30 GMT -5
What makes you think it's so hard for Serbia to refuse your recognition LOL?
Don't worry about what Serbs "need" the North is already by default out of Albanian-control, it's only a matter of time when Serb police enter. 2 things are happening at once here; 1) Serbia will soon officially control the North. 2) NATO/USA are soon leaving. ... hmmm
both of these talks took place during the same week.
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Post by Shqipni13 on Feb 18, 2012 22:06:24 GMT -5
You'll never get it. Kosova would always be a thorn on your side. Yugoslavia is dead man.
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Post by uz on Feb 18, 2012 22:08:35 GMT -5
You're the one who refuses to understand that Serbia gains nothing from recognizing you. Whose talking Yugoslavia? Kosovo is Serbia, and Serbia will always be a thorn on every Albanians' side.
Ps; I am only stating the obvious. NATO/USA have been talking about leaving Kosovo while at the same time the Serbs staged that referrendum to remind the world that the Albanians have no control over that area, while also happening at the same time... Albanians starting shit in Bujanovac... (you know what's there).
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Post by Shqipni13 on Feb 18, 2012 23:02:40 GMT -5
They gain a peace of mind. What do they gain from having it under their control?
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Post by uz on Feb 19, 2012 1:54:01 GMT -5
The north? pushing the Serbian presence, at this point the Serbian government would be smart to start promoting K, Kosovo to investing/housing/social programs in general. The K. Serbs are strong as hell right now, in the sense that they are on their own in this struggle while having the absolute choice to leave. Now we need to make something for Serbs to come back.
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Post by Shqipni13 on Feb 19, 2012 3:39:36 GMT -5
I'm not talking about the north, I'm excluding it.
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Post by terroreign on Feb 19, 2012 23:55:38 GMT -5
ok i think you fellas have deviated from the topic...let's focus on crna gora
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Post by croatchessmaster on Feb 21, 2012 12:34:54 GMT -5
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Post by valmir on Feb 21, 2012 12:39:25 GMT -5
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, YOUR NIGHTMARE!
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Post by croatchessmaster on Feb 21, 2012 12:48:41 GMT -5
nope... you mis-read.
HAHAHAHAAHAHA ALBANIANS... EWWW..
got it now? ok.
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Post by valmir on Feb 21, 2012 12:50:32 GMT -5
nope... you mis-read. HAHAHAHAAHAHA ALBANIANS... EWWW.. got it now? ok. Look that image man, They are in search for Serbian blood! SOON WE WILL ARRIVE IN BELGRADE MWHAHAH
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Post by terroreign on Feb 21, 2012 15:25:58 GMT -5
when was the last time the albanian empire was there? oops
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