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Post by rex362 on Jan 11, 2012 20:28:21 GMT -5
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Post by Hellenas on Jan 11, 2012 20:37:09 GMT -5
Yes you are 3rd world illiterate Albananian. rex362Carleton S. Coon:A tall, dolichocephalic or mesocephalic type with dark hair and dark brown eyes, a straight nasal profile, and a tendency toward a lesser leptorrhiny than the total group. This is an Atlanto-Mediterranean racial type which is also prevalent in other Balkan countries. It may also be sorted out of available statistical series of Greeks, while it is common in Bulgaria and easily distinguishable among Serbs. It, or a similar type, also occurs with Dinarics in northern Italy and the Tyrol. In northern Albania it is commonest in Malsia Jakovës and Dukagin.Even you, racially you look Hellenic, your blood is Hellenic, you are not a true Albanian but a Greek-born Albanian-wannabe. You don't fit with Albanian people but with Hellenic people. You want to Albanize all Greece because you are racially a Greek and you ashame of yourself.
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Post by rex362 on Jan 11, 2012 20:50:59 GMT -5
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Post by as on Jan 12, 2012 0:57:54 GMT -5
so it's perfectlly logical for Albanians to be the descendants of ancient Paleo Balkan tribes that have been under foriegn occupation and rule for nearly 2000 years, and yet not for Greeks who have had varying states of indepedance
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Post by phebehale on Jan 12, 2012 3:20:02 GMT -5
Thanks for sharing.
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Post by tsompanos on Jan 12, 2012 5:53:14 GMT -5
maybe your papou had a mustache like this uh ? From when moustaches count for Anthropology? This man is a Dinaric and Dinaric types do not exist in Greece, so we are not descendants of any Ghegs, that's for sure. Same goes for Toscs whose facial characters mostly resemble french Alpines and not Greek Alpines(Eastern-European Alpines). So we are not descendants of any Toscs either. Damn, you post some really dumb shit sometimes like so many others on this forum you must be borderline crazy or you live in a cave. Him beeing dinaric or whatever i don't care but really i can spot so many greeks looking like him it's just funny how you type some crap just to contradict rex although hes a wacko too.
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Post by atdhetar on Jan 12, 2012 6:01:28 GMT -5
genetics studies and anthropological studies was never intented to prove precisely whose tribe modern people belonged to, it is intended for the human evolution in a grander scheme rather than pinpointing what specific hellenic tribe neo-greeks are derived from, it is impossible and inconclusive.
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Post by Hellenas on Jan 12, 2012 9:29:32 GMT -5
From when moustaches count for Anthropology? This man is a Dinaric and Dinaric types do not exist in Greece, so we are not descendants of any Ghegs, that's for sure. Same goes for Toscs whose facial characters mostly resemble french Alpines and not Greek Alpines(Eastern-European Alpines). So we are not descendants of any Toscs either. Damn, you post some really dumb s**t sometimes like so many others on this forum you must be borderline crazy or you live in a cave. Him beeing dinaric or whatever i don't care but really i can spot so many greeks looking like him it's just funny how you type some crap just to contradict rex although hes a wacko too. Looking like him? Anthropology has nothing to do with "looks" but with Anthropometry and Morphology(shape of nose, eyes, mouth, ears, forehead, zygomatics, jaw, of crania in general etc) . Greeks do not "look"(do not share the same features) like the man in this picture because Greeks are not Dinarics, very few are and those are rare: Carleton S.Coon.The Greeks, in short, are a blend of racial types, of which two are most important; the Atlanto-Mediterranean and the Alpine. Dinaricisrn here is present, but not all pervading; true Alpines are commoner than complete Dinarics. The Nordic element is weak, as it probably has been since the days of Homer. The racial type to which Socrates belonged is today the most important, while the Atlanto-Mediterranean, prominent in Greece since the Bronze Age, is still a major factor, it is my personal reaction to the living Greeks that their continuity with their ancestors of the ancient world is remarkable, rather than the opposite. www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-XII14.htmLook to educate your self and learn something from my posts, and from the links I post, because you are in ignorance and you sound ridiculous and childish, as your picture shows too. As for the insults, well, I return them back and straight to your face as well.
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Post by tsompanos on Jan 12, 2012 9:49:48 GMT -5
^^ Uhm but i am greek and i am in Greece(have you ever been?) atleast once a year and I'm not mentally ill as you and pull out dna charts and other crap on every discussion.
And i never said every greek looks like that guy in the picture.
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Post by Hellenas on Jan 12, 2012 10:03:40 GMT -5
I'm not mentally ill as you You are illiterate and irrelevant concerning Anthropology/Genetics kid and this is even worse than be crazy for Hellas.
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Post by tsompanos on Jan 12, 2012 10:25:34 GMT -5
kid and illiterate eh? I'm 24 and honestly i don't need genetics as proof as ive seen and lived Greece, my bets are youre some kid from the states that never even touched a foot in Greece. Anyway have fun with your charts.
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Post by rex362 on Jan 12, 2012 10:26:55 GMT -5
Yes you are 3rd world illiterate Albananian. rex362Carleton S. Coon:A tall, dolichocephalic or mesocephalic type with dark hair and dark brown eyes, a straight nasal profile, and a tendency toward a lesser leptorrhiny than the total group. This is an Atlanto-Mediterranean racial type which is also prevalent in other Balkan countries. It may also be sorted out of available statistical series of Greeks, while it is common in Bulgaria and easily distinguishable among Serbs. It, or a similar type, also occurs with Dinarics in northern Italy and the Tyrol. In northern Albania it is commonest in Malsia Jakovës and Dukagin.Even you, racially you look Hellenic, your blood is Hellenic, you are not a true Albanian but a Greek-born Albanian-wannabe. You don't fit with Albanian people but with Hellenic people. You want to Albanize all Greece because you are racially a Greek and you ashamed of yourself.we are ancient Balkans ......its all wrong to call it ancient Greece greece/greek is a new word just recently in history that's like me saying "Ancient USA" or Ancient Yugoslavia
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Post by rex362 on Jan 12, 2012 10:33:31 GMT -5
"You want to Albanize all Greece because you are racially a Greek and you ashamed of yourself."
I could slavisize you as well and also vlachenize you
....and racially I am of ancient Balkans
I am ashamed that I was born in Athens in these times I should of been born in 1798 ....history would of been written different ....
thanks kid
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Post by Hellenas on Jan 12, 2012 10:37:15 GMT -5
kid and illiterate eh? I'm 24 and honestly i don't need genetics as proof as ive seen and lived Greece, my bets are youre some kid from the states that never even touched a foot in Greece. Anyway have fun with your charts. 24? Just a kid to me. I have live all of my life in Greece and I can say that you know nothing concerning Anthropology neither anything concerning our people, as a race.
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Post by rex362 on Jan 12, 2012 10:38:59 GMT -5
your anthropology is made so that tourism and the statues and monuments to work and supposedly to make sense
just maybe 150 years ago you were the fyromanians in the balkans when it came to identity making ...yours achieved bcs you had great sponsors
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Post by Hellenas on Jan 12, 2012 10:44:37 GMT -5
we are ancient Balkans ......its all wrong to call it ancient Greece greece/greek is a new word just recently in history Greece/Greeks is/are the most ancient land/people of the Hellenic peninsula of Haimos and Albania the newest. Pelasgia=Greece. Or ancient Albania...
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Post by rex362 on Jan 12, 2012 10:47:26 GMT -5
I never have used that term 'Ancient Albania ....bcs Albanianis a recent word such as greek/greece is
just ancient Balkans ...
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Post by fishcake on Jan 12, 2012 10:59:16 GMT -5
Greece comes from the latin Grecia. Latin is not that recent. Not that I give a shit but that's how it is and Albania comes from latin too.
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Post by Kanaris on Jan 12, 2012 11:05:44 GMT -5
The Romans started calling the Hellens Graeki... and the lands they were on...
I am not a historian but I have stayed at a Holiday Inn.
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Post by Hellenas on Jan 12, 2012 11:46:45 GMT -5
Etymology of Greek From Latin Graecus, from Ancient Greek Ãñáéêüò (Graikos, “a character in Greek mythology”) (a son of Thessalos, the king of Phthia), whom ἙëëÜò (Hellas, “Greece”), and Ἕëëçíåò (Hellenes), were also named after; see also Ἕëëçí and Hellen.
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Greek
Ãñáéêüò (Graikos)
1.Graecus, a character in Greek mythology, said to be a son of Thessalos, the king of Phthia; or else a son of Pandora and Zeus.
2.Graecian, name of an ancient Boeotian tribe that migrated to Italy.
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CE%93%CF%81%CE%B1%CE%B9%CE%BA%CF%8C%CF%82
ZEUS FAMILY
GRAIKOS A King of the Graikoi tribe of the Pindar Mountains (in Northern Greece). He was a son of Zeus and Thyia.
FAMILY IN EPEIROS-PERRHAIBIA (NORTHERN GREECE)
LOVED: 1. Pandora, princess of Thessalia SIRED: 1. Graikos, king of the Graikoi
The Graikoi tribe lived in North-Western Greece, in the vicinity of Dodona (their land was also known as Perrhaibia, see Map). Historically the Graikoi were the first Greek tribe conquered by the Romans who then applied the name to all of the Hellenes (Greeks).
Hesiod, Catalogues of Women Fragment 2 (from Ioannes Lydus (2), de Mens. i. 13) (trans. Evelyn-White) (Greek epic C8th or 7th B.C.) : "They came to call those who followed local manners Latins, but those who followed Hellenic customs Greeks, after the brothers Latinus and Graecus; as Hesiod says: ‘And in the palace Pandora the daughter of noble Deukalion was joined in love with father Zeus, leader of all the gods, and bare Graikos, staunch in battle.’"
www.theoi.com/Olympios/ZeusFamily.html#EpeirosNames of the Greeks
His descendants the Aeolians, Dorians, Achaeans and Ionians correspond to the main Greek tribes and to the main dialects spoken in Greece and Asia Minor (Anatolia). Among his descendants are also mentioned the Graeci and the Makedones.
Among the descendants of Hellen are mentioned Aeolus, Ion, Achaeus, Dorus, Graecos and Makedon.
The land was occupied by Selloi and Graeci, who later came to be known as Hellenes".[15] In that regard Graici (Graikoi) was a native name of a Dorian tribe in Epirus which was used by the Illyrians.".
Greeks (Ãñáéêïß)
The modern English noun Greek (old English Grecas or Crecas) is derived from the Latin Graeci, which in turn originates from Greek Ãñáéêüò (Graikos). It seems that the word is related with the Greek word geron,"old man".
Aristotle used the term Graikos related with Hellenes (Meteorologica I xiv) and claimed that it was the name originally used by the Illyrians for the Dorians in Epirus from Graii native name of the people of Epirus.
The region outside of Attica including Boeotia was called Graiki and the word Ogyges related with ocean.
Hesiod is referring to Graecus son of Pandora who was sister of Hellen and Alcman mentions that the mothers of Hellenes were Graikoi.
The German classical historian Georg Busolt (1850–1920) derives the name from Graikos,"inhabitant of Graea,a town on the coast of Boeotia.[29] The name Graea (ãñáßá) is derived from Proto Greek grau-j,"old lady".[25]Homer, while reciting the Boeotian forces in the Iliad's Catalogue of Ships, provides the first known reference to a region named Graea,[30] and Pausanias mentions that the ancient city of Tanagra was for a time called Graea, adding that "no one knows where this Graia really was;
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_the_Greeks
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