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Post by ulf on Mar 25, 2012 4:55:32 GMT -5
I am not surprised at the comments emanating from the Neanderthals in Belgrade, as this is precisely what I would have expected. I am more disappointed that we Croats have taken an interest on the issue to the point where it is broadcast on national media, when it is clearly a matter for the Serbs to decide for themselves.. Croatia needs to focus on its own interests, no less than those concerning economic and political reform and the normalization of relations with its neighbours. It would appear that the revisionism takes the interest of the Serbian public over third world wages and a declining standard of living. I could not imagine a better scenario where Seselj, assuming he is acquitted, unveils a statue in the centre of Belgrade. You don't differ too much from Serbs. No statue of Seselj(or Milosevic or any other political criminal from 90's) would unveil in center of Belgrade.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Mar 25, 2012 11:18:29 GMT -5
I am more disappointed that we Croats have taken an interest on the issue to the point where it is broadcast on national media after decades of blatant western support, explicit german interventions and commercial channels/political support setup from USA/EU/GER just to make your statelet viable (for a short while), it is clear that Croats have more internal issues to solve than the Serbs. You are a smaller nation and you are meant to stay this way.
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Post by uz on Mar 25, 2012 13:27:21 GMT -5
I am now convinced that the Croats are more obesessed with Seselj than the Serbs are.
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Post by dalmatino on Mar 25, 2012 18:53:46 GMT -5
I am more disappointed that we Croats have taken an interest on the issue to the point where it is broadcast on national media after decades of blatant western support, explicit german interventions and commercial channels/political support setup from USA/EU/GER just to make your statelet viable (for a short while), it is clear that Croats have more internal issues to solve than the Serbs. You are a smaller nation and you are meant to stay this way. Both our countries are minnows on a world scale and although Croatia may have been a powerful kingdom in the 10th century along with Dusan’s mighty Serbian empire some four centuries later, which lasted for little longer than the average life span of a canary, it may still provide people with delusions of grandeur but they are hardly relevant in today’s Europe and of little comfort to the average citizen. Before you make outlandish statements regarding the size or viability of neighbouring states, you may want to first take note of GDP and wages and salary data for the respective countries and their prospects. I’ve travelled throughout Croatia and its natural beauty for one will secure its future in terms of generating wealth through tourism well into the future, which will be supplemented by the development of its science and technology sectors. I have not visited Serbia but from the imagery and video footage I have seen it will also undoubtedly capitalize of the tourism dollar, particularly with its element of mystique as the gateway to the east. I am not certain as to whether the planned Russian nuclear waste facility on the outskirts of Belgrade has received approval but I’d stay well clear of such a venture and inform the Russians to shove the waste along with their offer of blankets in place of Russian citizenship. Yes, Croatia has often been required to look to the west, more specifically to its Germanic neighbours, as has Serbia to their Orthodox brethren in Russia. Russia’s support for Serbia is nothing new. Russia was not only there to save Serbia from total annihilation at the hands of the Ottomans, but more recently behind the nationalism of Milosevic in Serbia. The Russians manipulation of the Serbs has always been designed to destabilize the West, whether it is to bring down empires a century ago, or today to drive energy prices higher and to foster extremism. It is not a case of Orthodox unity at all but one of reporting for duty to the KGB.
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Post by dalmatino on Mar 25, 2012 18:58:19 GMT -5
I am now convinced that the Croats are more obesessed with Seselj than the Serbs are. Not obsession, admiration. Only a genius could lead a people the way he did.
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Post by uz on Mar 25, 2012 19:13:27 GMT -5
I am now convinced that the Croats are more obesessed with Seselj than the Serbs are. Not obsession, admiration. Only a genius could lead a people the way he did. Sure. I don't think there is any doubt that he is a genius.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Mar 25, 2012 23:34:19 GMT -5
after decades of blatant western support, explicit german interventions and commercial channels/political support setup from USA/EU/GER just to make your statelet viable (for a short while), it is clear that Croats have more internal issues to solve than the Serbs. You are a smaller nation and you are meant to stay this way. Both our countries are minnows on a world scale and although Croatia may have been a powerful kingdom in the 10th century along with Dusan�s mighty Serbian empire some four centuries later, which lasted for little longer than the average life span of a canary, it may still provide people with delusions of grandeur but they are hardly relevant in today�s Europe and of little comfort to the average citizen. Before you make outlandish statements regarding the size or viability of neighbouring states, you may want to first take note of GDP and wages and salary data for the respective countries and their prospects. I�ve travelled throughout Croatia and its natural beauty for one will secure its future in terms of generating wealth through tourism well into the future, which will be supplemented by the development of its science and technology sectors. I have not visited Serbia but from the imagery and video footage I have seen it will also undoubtedly capitalize of the tourism dollar, particularly with its element of mystique as the gateway to the east. I am not certain as to whether the planned Russian nuclear waste facility on the outskirts of Belgrade has received approval but I�d stay well clear of such a venture and inform the Russians to shove the waste along with their offer of blankets in place of Russian citizenship. Yes, Croatia has often been required to look to the west, more specifically to its Germanic neighbours, as has Serbia to their Orthodox brethren in Russia. Russia�s support for Serbia is nothing new. Russia was not only there to save Serbia from total annihilation at the hands of the Ottomans, but more recently behind the nationalism of Milosevic in Serbia. The Russians manipulation of the Serbs has always been designed to destabilize the West, whether it is to bring down empires a century ago, or today to drive energy prices higher and to foster extremism. It is not a case of Orthodox unity at all but one of reporting for duty to the KGB. its like there is an industry of prepackaged anti-serb paragraphs in Croatia, every new Croat has to learn at school and serve it whenever fit. Its like the 100th time i have read something incredibly identical to what you wrote. (and i didn't read it all, just words here and there : lifespan of a canary, GDP, etc... pretty enough i guess ;D ) PS For your info, Russia's beloved balkan state is BULGARIA, and German's beloved child is Serbia. I know it is hard for your tiny brain to grasp the latter but if you study a little bit of history you'll see it.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Mar 26, 2012 0:10:08 GMT -5
"Russia's beloved balkan state is BULGARIA"
How much l agree with that brate!
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Post by Novus Dis on Mar 26, 2012 3:18:16 GMT -5
Russians and Serbs have respect for one another. Nobody respects Bulgars. Nobody.
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Post by dalmatino on Mar 26, 2012 20:01:38 GMT -5
its like there is an industry of prepackaged anti-serb paragraphs in Croatia, every new Croat has to learn at school and serve it whenever fit. Its like the 100th time i have read something incredibly identical to what you wrote. (and i didn't read it all, just words here and there : lifespan of a canary, GDP, etc... pretty enough i guess ;D ) PS For your info, Russia's beloved balkan state is BULGARIA, and German's beloved child is Serbia. I know it is hard for your tiny brain to grasp the latter but if you study a little bit of history you'll see it.[/quote]
Kako mislis reci? na primer da smo Srbi, da nemamo mi svoj jezik, da Hrvatska ne postoji, itd. Prvo pogledaj malo sebe pa onda sudi drugima jer ja nemam nista protiv Srba niti protiv ikoga. Znas kako kazu, ko se tuce taj se voli - dodi onda da te prebijem hehehe. Samo da ti na kraju napomenem, nemoj misliti ako ti nesto neznas ili zelis da zakopas glavu u pijesak, da i ne postoji - lol Dovidjenja i puno srece.
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Mar 27, 2012 10:33:51 GMT -5
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I agree brate. I think its jealously and envy. They look at our country and marvel at its beauty and then try to claim it and our people for themselves. We would be very good neighbors , even cousins , if this envy didn't exist among them.
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Post by srbobran on Mar 27, 2012 13:24:44 GMT -5
Maybe the source of our tension isn't any perceived jealousy but rather a superiority complex that you (as a person) clearly exhibit? I think its utterly retarded to claim and entire nation has a collective jealousy of another and end to think people emote jealousy on an individual basis.
The reason for the tensions between Croatia and Serbia is mutual in nature. Both peoples exhibit peasant like characteristics of percieved superiority and an infuriating victim complex that they think gives reasonable justification for hating the other ethnicity. Its petty and stupid if you ask me.
And for the record, I'm Serbian and I'm not jealous of Croatia or the Croats. We have long and proud history and a beautiful country of own to be proud of. No jealousy here mate.
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Mar 27, 2012 15:13:05 GMT -5
Maybe the source of our tension isn't any perceived jealousy but rather a superiority complex that you (as a person) clearly exhibit? I think its utterly retarded to claim and entire nation has a collective jealousy of another and end to think people emote jealousy on an individual basis. The reason for the tensions between Croatia and Serbia is mutual in nature. Both peoples exhibit peasant like characteristics of percieved superiority and an infuriating victim complex that they think gives reasonable justification for hating the other ethnicity. Its petty and stupid if you ask me. And for the record, I'm Serbian and I'm not jealous of Croatia or the Croats. We have long and proud history and a beautiful country of own to be proud of. No jealousy here mate. I think you are more of an exception than a rule. We envy nothing of Serbia and we never tried to invade their country based on some xenophobic wetdream of a greater state.
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Post by atdhetar on Mar 27, 2012 16:03:29 GMT -5
i envy the fact that they are responsible for wreaking so much havoc and inflicting so much pain and are perfectly able to get a good night sleep not being bothered by the horrors of their exploits, nothing weighs in on the serb mind
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Post by uz on Mar 27, 2012 20:06:19 GMT -5
Keep whining guys, maybe one of you should get a guitar and sing kumbaya to make one another feel better. ADT you should lean on Priso maybe even an embrace him, you know for having soo much pain, havoc and horrors inflicted on you (by you --- ooops ) you two can really help each other heal, find comfort in one another, you know from the pain... OH and don't worry Priso seems to be comfortabe with his sexuality so don't feel for a second that you're being a homo for opening up.
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Mar 27, 2012 22:50:32 GMT -5
^ Why u mad?
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Post by uz on Mar 27, 2012 23:18:29 GMT -5
I'm more than delighted to see you two bond, why, you think I should feel guilty for something?
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Mar 27, 2012 23:42:58 GMT -5
His issues with Serbs are much more pronounced than my own. I only speak of Serbs in hindsight like an after thought , like some rough history with them , I have nothing against Serbs today. He, on the other hand, speaks of you as presently not liking you obviously because your conflict with Albanians is still fresh and unresolved.
We resolved our differences with Serbs. Don't forget that.
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Post by uz on Mar 28, 2012 0:13:24 GMT -5
^Doesn't seem you resolved much, you're very fragile.
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Post by srbobran on Mar 28, 2012 0:40:44 GMT -5
Maybe the source of our tension isn't any perceived jealousy but rather a superiority complex that you (as a person) clearly exhibit? I think its utterly retarded to claim and entire nation has a collective jealousy of another and end to think people emote jealousy on an individual basis. The reason for the tensions between Croatia and Serbia is mutual in nature. Both peoples exhibit peasant like characteristics of percieved superiority and an infuriating victim complex that they think gives reasonable justification for hating the other ethnicity. Its petty and stupid if you ask me. And for the record, I'm Serbian and I'm not jealous of Croatia or the Croats. We have long and proud history and a beautiful country of own to be proud of. No jealousy here mate. I think you are more of an exception than a rule. We envy nothing of Serbia and we never tried to invade their country based on some xenophobic wetdream of*greater state. Right and the NDH wasnt a xenophobic wet dream of a greater state. I fail to see the difference. Or was this just a manifestation of our perpetual jealosy of the godlike Croats and their beautiful coastline? Or what about in WWI when thousands of Croats particpated in Austria's war of aggression on Serbia? Cant stand it when people selectively look at history.
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