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Post by uz on Apr 2, 2012 15:23:21 GMT -5
^ You should take that rant back to the Jasenovac thread. You seem to justify your hate towards Serbs for hating Croats who hate Serbs who hate Croats for hating Serbs... Don't assume you know anyone here, tho you painted a pretty good picture of yourself...
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Post by Moe Lester on Apr 4, 2012 9:18:38 GMT -5
I recently found out the Bulgarian Air Force was created before the Ottoman Air Force. So my claim that the Ottoman Air Force was the first in the Balkans was wrong, it's actually the Bulgarians who created the first Air Force in the Balkans.
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Post by dalmatino on Apr 8, 2012 0:32:06 GMT -5
^ You should take that rant back to the Jasenovac thread. You seem to justify your hate towards Serbs for hating Croats who hate Serbs who hate Croats for hating Serbs... Don't assume you know anyone here, tho you painted a pretty good picture of yourself... Sure thing man, I'll stick to the thread whilst you take little jibes here and there. Don't give me that hate bs, I don't hate anyone and FYI my little childs kuma is Serbian and I've welcomed more Serbs into my home than you've had hot breakfasts. I've come across your type before and quite frankly I don't dislike you because you're a Serb but because you're a fkn tool.
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Apr 8, 2012 8:13:44 GMT -5
^^ Well said. That kid simply repeats what he reads/hears from pro-cetnik/yugoslav sites about Croats and thinks its all true. lol. I also have Serb in-laws , I've been around them a lot in the heart of their culture and I personally don't have a problem with them as a whole group. Its also interesting to note that a couple of my Serbian friends ( younger kids) seems to shift their opinions based on whoever is around them at the time. If they are amongst their own they sing the nationalist , even anti-Croat , songs especially if its like a sports thing but if they hang around me then they are pro Yugoslavian and wish so badly that we had Yuga back so we can all call each other brothers , lol. It's cool I don't take it personally but do a lot of Serbs shift with the wind like that? Have you noticed that Dalmatino?
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Post by uz on Apr 8, 2012 12:28:54 GMT -5
Dalmatino, you have unresolved rage issues that need to be adressed. Cool you know Serbs, what's your point....I feel sorry for your types, your recognizable from a mile away. Priso; I don't even know ONE "anti-Croatian" song in Serbian and barely know ANY Serb nationalist songs at all, except the few legendary (i wouldnt even consider nationalist) ones that don't preach hate but rather love of the country. I am not a nationalist as you assume I am, does it break your heart? Does it rock your world that not all Serbs are what you grandparents taught you? ahh, who cares you got it all figured out on this inter-web "imaginary" world, keep at it. Shejtani; Are you implying that it was the Serbs who wanted to secede? Don't answer. The "prestige" of Yugoslavia that you're talking about can still be seen in todays Serbia, and her people. What do you know? You're an Alb with an inferiority complex, who tries to make the Albs part of Yugo. Pathetic indeed.
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Post by uz on Apr 8, 2012 16:47:03 GMT -5
It was never meant to include you, you just forced yourself in cause "beautiful-wonderful" Albania wasn't doing so good and not working so well for many people, and this is ok b/c many normal-Albanians do in fact recognize this, you just need to recognize this fact.
Plus, Yugoslavia was killing the Serbian heritage and manipulating Serbian history, what makes you think all Serbs are pro-Yugo. I was all for a dissolution, the way it happened was just plain wrong. As much as there Croats who hate Yugoslavia, they're Serbs who hate it probably even more.
Your simpleton theory that Serbs wanted to invade everything says it all. lol
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Post by Novi Pazar on Apr 8, 2012 20:33:18 GMT -5
^ UZ, l still remember my mum telling me years ago about her Grandmother hating Tito, calling him a Hrvatina etc...
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Apr 8, 2012 21:33:54 GMT -5
^^ Well said. That kid simply repeats what he reads/hears from pro-cetnik/yugoslav sites about Croats and thinks its all true. lol. I also have Serb in-laws , I've been around them a lot in the heart of their culture and I personally don't have a problem with them as a whole group. Its also interesting to note that a couple of my Serbian friends ( younger kids) seems to shift their opinions based on whoever is around them at the time. If they are amongst their own they sing the nationalist , even anti-Croat , songs especially if its like a sports thing but if they hang around me then they are pro Yugoslavian and wish so badly that we had Yuga back so we can all call each other brothers , lol. It's cool I don't take it personally but do a lot of Serbs shift with the wind like that? Have you noticed that Dalmatino? Majority do. It's because by pretending to defend Yugoslavia, they show that it wasn't them who destroyed the country, but the others who wanted to secede! They defend a certain idea of Yugoslavia: the one where they had 4 voices at the council when they abolished de facto the autonomy of Kosovo and Vojvodina, the one they totally dominated. It's also because they want to benefit from the old alliances of Yugoslavia (Arab countries, etc ...). They want the prestige of Yugoslavia to spill over Serbia. And once they're amongst only Serbs ... they show their true faces. Quite pathetic if you ask me ... Very well written. I don't think I could have described it better myself.
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Apr 8, 2012 21:40:39 GMT -5
I don't think you know a lot of things about even being Serbian. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if I understood your culture more than you. You might be like Pazar in that regard. I haven't really paid attention to you too closely so I can't really make that call yet. I didn't call you a nationalist. Honestly I don't know what you are. Your opinions might be like that of many Serbs and shift with the crowd depending on what other 'Yugoslavs' you're around. I have Serb in-laws, I've been among them plenty of times, I only stand out because I don't call them 'brate' when they call me that because they try to impress me with brotherhood and Yugoslavia. I tell them they don't have to hide who they are or put on some fake Yugoslavian label to make me like them more lol.
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Apr 8, 2012 21:44:39 GMT -5
Serbs did very well in Yugoslavia. They basically got with they wanted. All Serbs in one state , over-representation of Serbs where they were a minority, and the Serbian capital as the capital of a much better country ( Yugoslavia) than Serbia alone could ever hope to be. This is not up for dispute I think because if you look at all the Yugonostalgia out there it is , by far , most felt among the Serbian people , even more than Macedonians and Bosnian ( Muslims).
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Post by uz on Apr 8, 2012 21:45:37 GMT -5
;D you went from knowing exactly what and who I am to "I dont know what you are".... why the assumptions and now backdrop? ... anyway you're issues with your in-laws are irrelevent here, but be honest, it must make you feel warm and fuzzy in the inside when they try to get closer to you like that. LOL
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Apr 8, 2012 21:51:40 GMT -5
I don't know you nor to I really care to get to know you. You're nothing to me just like everyone else on this forum. haha. I don't have 'issues' with my inlaws. We get a long great. And we are already close by virtue of being inlaws. I was referring to the Serbs they hang out with at their cultural functions. I go for the food and sljivovica tbh and I do like some of the local Serbian bands who play those old drinking songs everyone knows. But they mistake my singing with them as an olive branch to 'brotherhood' and I was pointing out Serbs are so eager to be one with us as opposed to us being one with them. A Serb at an all Croatian function wouldn't be approached as a brother but if the Serb was a nice guy he'd be treated as a guest just like any other non Croatian person. Aside from language we normally don't feel the urge to court them.
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Post by Shqipni13 on Apr 9, 2012 2:59:25 GMT -5
Priso, you make Croats out to be rather arrogant. I have no love lost for Serbs but I hear this from older Albanians who served in Yugoslav army. They all say Serbs, in general, were much more friendly than Croats, Bosnians and especially Slovenes. Maybe because they had a feeling that they were top dogs in Yugo, not sure.
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Post by uz on Apr 9, 2012 10:26:04 GMT -5
Priso, you make Croats out to be rather arrogant. I have no love lost for Serbs but I hear this from older Albanians who served in Yugoslav army. They all say Serbs, in general, were much more friendly than Croats, Bosnians and especially Slovenes. Maybe because they had a feeling that they were top dogs in Yugo, not sure. It's not Croats who are arrogant, it's him. I don't think it's political but rather something personal. He likes to think that all Serbs want to be Croats, not sure why, maybe it makes him feel that his identity has more value? I think it fulfills a certain fantasy of his, thinking/hoping that Serbs envy Croats, this is the complex. I know plenty of Croats in Dubrovnik and I have never once had any issues with anyone because I am a Serb, speaking Serbian. Sure I know some "Croatian" words/dialects, but why bother when they understand me anyway
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Post by uz on Apr 9, 2012 10:28:09 GMT -5
It was never meant to include you, you just forced yourself in cause "beautiful-wonderful" Albania wasn't doing so good and not working so well for many people, and this is ok b/c many normal-Albanians do in fact recognize this, you just need to recognize this fact. Plus, Yugoslavia was killing the Serbian heritage and manipulating Serbian history, what makes you think all Serbs are pro-Yugo. I was all for a dissolution, the way it happened was just plain wrong. As much as there Croats who hate Yugoslavia, they're Serbs who hate it probably even more. Your simpleton theory that Serbs wanted to invade everything says it all. lol Where did I say that Albania was doing well? ... You put a lot of things in my mouth, things that I've never written! Albania wasn't doing well at all, but Yugoslavia was a Slavic country, and we aren't a Slavic people, it's as simple as that. I was just reminding you that many of your people found a home in Yugoslavia and still currently in Serbia. You're anti-shit is nonsense. Look at the evidence.
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Post by Shqipni13 on Apr 9, 2012 10:55:48 GMT -5
^Found a home in Yugoslavia? Lollllllll When was Yugo created again? Yeah, thanks for the hospitality.
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Post by uz on Apr 9, 2012 17:16:26 GMT -5
Why don't you go ask the Albanians who live in Belgrade or other parts of Serbia and see what they say about us Slavic "invaders".
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Post by Novi Pazar on Apr 9, 2012 23:17:50 GMT -5
^ Good point UZ.
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Post by atdhetar on Apr 10, 2012 3:21:08 GMT -5
Why don't you go ask the Albanians who live in Belgrade or other parts of Serbia and see what they say about us Slavic "invaders". hahaha why don't you ask a guy who has a gun pointed at his head how well his captors are treating him
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