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Post by mystery on Apr 23, 2012 19:27:48 GMT -5
"Where Novi Pazar is going wrong, is in his logic. By referring to the eye for an eye comment, he fails to comprehend that revenge is reactive and not pre-emptive. If we Albanians were to play the eye for an eye thing, there would be no Serbs in KS left, but we don't really want that, now do we. We would just be as bad as they are." Okkkay, this what l'm saying, you kill one of me then we kill one of you, its relative ralph and thats what should have been done awhile ago, instead of brotherhood in unity and REWARDING Albanians more social security pay-outs, perfect breeding ground to set the stage for 200 children per family. Yes, its reactive. Now pre-emptive approach is low level terrorism, which l made mention above. you don't even make any sense.. It's well noted that Albanians were discriminated during the yugo times and especially during the Milosevic time from state jobs, education, pensions, etc (If that's what your trying to argue?) Also, Albanians don't even have a high birthrate, if you want to see high birthrates look at Turkey, Nigeria, Brazil, etc... Kosova has a population barely of 2mil
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Post by Novi Pazar on Apr 23, 2012 19:53:33 GMT -5
^ Fadil Hoxda had veto'ing powers and whatever decisions were made in Belgrade for the entire benefit of the nation, were scrapped because of him. Its no wander why Albanians had the highest membership (%) wise per ethnic group LOYAL TO THE LEAGUE OF YUGOSLAV COMMUNISTS. Albanians were nurtured like a baby with the commies.
PS come on man, l don't need propaganda and lies.
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Post by Shqipni13 on Apr 23, 2012 21:46:08 GMT -5
^Fadil was a Serb puppet. Don't go assuming that he actually had any kind of power.
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Post by vinjak on Apr 24, 2012 2:52:04 GMT -5
It's well noted that Albanians were discriminated during the yugo times and especially during the Milosevic time from state jobs, education, pensions, etc
During Titos Yug Albanian nationalists where hounded just like Serb and Croats were, there was no discrimination towards Kosovo Albs in general, in actual fact it was in 1981/82 that Serbs where discriminated against on mass in Kosovo many murders and desecration of churches was carried out by Albanian extremists icluding the Paracin massacre, the Alb who commited these murders Later commited suicide but many docs where found incriminating many exteemist groups that where planning many atrocitys in the JNA, the Jug police smashed the extremists completely.
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Post by Shqipni13 on Apr 24, 2012 4:49:09 GMT -5
^ UZ, there won't be shame when he returns, secretly the Albanian officals do want more of these type of harrasing and life threatening acts, its their game of low level terrorism. During the 60's, 70's, 80's etc....Albanian family members (fathers and Grandfathers) were ENCOURAGING young male Albanian men to rape Serbian women. Their leaders in Kosovo back then didn't lift a finger because they too were supporting it. Who told you this? your father or grandfather? lolllll. Go masturbate to one of pyrros' youtube rock sessions you assclown.
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Post by Nikola on May 1, 2012 17:42:21 GMT -5
www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/macedonian-police-arrest-20-radical-islamists-in-deaths-of-fishermen/2012/05/01/gIQAluR2tT_story.htmlMacedonian police arrest 20 radical Islamists in deaths of fishermenBy Associated Press, SKOPJE, Macedonia — Police arrested 20 radical Islamists for the murder of five ethnic Macedonian fishermen in an early morning raid Tuesday, authorities said. The killing last month fueled tension in the tiny Balkan country between majority Macedonians and the mostly Muslim Albanian minority. The suspects have been charged with terrorism, Interior Minister Gordana Jankuloska said. She did not specify whether they all belonged to the same ethnic group, saying simply that they were all Macedonian citizens. The victims were not directly connected with the suspects, Jankuloska told reporters. “The intention of this crime was to create a sense of insecurity and fear among the general population,” she said. Tensions between ethnic Macedonians and Albanians have simmered since the end of an armed rebellion in 2001, when ethnic Albanian rebels fought Macedonian government forces for about eight months, seeking greater rights for their community. The conflict left 80 people dead, and ended with the intervention of NATO troops. Ethnic Albanians make up a quarter of Macedonia’s population of 2.1 million. Most Macedonians are Christian Orthodox. About 800 police were involved in Tuesday’s operation, called “Monster,” raiding 26 houses around the Macedonian capital of Skopje and seizing weapons, bullet proof vests and Islamic literature, Jankuloska said. All of the suspects had fought in Afghanistan and Pakistan, she said. The suspects were followers “of radical Islam, which is generally a danger for Christianity,” she said. “They all have the capacity to commit such a horrible act.” She did not offer more details, saying the investigation is not yet complete. Police posted a video of armed policemen raiding a house, arresting at least two suspects, one of them sprawled on the floor, and displaying a number of cellphones and SIM cards. The title of the video describes the arrested as “Wahhabis,” a fundamentalist branch of Islam. The five fishermen, all but one in their 20s, were found dead, shot with at least three different firearms, north of Skopje on April 13. Rumors spread quickly that the killings were ethnic-related, forcing authorities to appeal for calm.
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Post by srbobran on May 1, 2012 19:50:18 GMT -5
Wahhabism and religious fundamentalism is something I think ALL normal Balkan people should stand firm against. It hurts us all and only hinders progress.
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Post by atdhetar on May 2, 2012 3:46:38 GMT -5
ok first of all, they claim these people were known to be terrorists and muslim radicals, did they actually provide any evidence of their connection with the crimes or they simply rounded up some extremists and discovered some plans of attacks and simply assumed they did it?
and who the f**k are these people that apparently have fought in pakistan and afghanistan? is this smth that all of us are not aware of? smth about this sounds very fishy, if this turns out to be true then albanians in macedonia need to make drastic changes to uproot this fundametalist disease spreading in their communitties, i can't get my head around how they just executed 5 innocent youths for no apparent reason, they need to be publically hanged.
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Post by valmir on May 2, 2012 9:28:33 GMT -5
I wish them the worst things ever! May those 20 bastards rot in hell. Albanians in Macedonia should start to wake up, and ban those vehabi from mosques, streets, houses, they wanna be like in Afghanistan, well, send them there! I think you have forgoten the testament our forefathers left to us! KURRE MOS I BESO SHKAUT!
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Post by Shqipni13 on May 2, 2012 16:11:39 GMT -5
^Mos u bo karuc. Like Valmir said. There is something fishy about this.
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Post by Nikola on May 2, 2012 17:08:23 GMT -5
Some uncensored images of the people caught. Apparently, they were all Albanians. Though it all seems fishy. Will have to wait out and see how it all unfolds.
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Post by atdhetar on May 2, 2012 17:22:33 GMT -5
smth doesn't add up, the interior minister is talking about radicalism and extremism, the general prosecutor is talking about handing down maximum sentences, so far i've only heard allegations and no one seems to be revealing any hard evidence, i'm not sure what the fuck the mac government is cooking up but they better get to the point, so far they just seem to have arrested some suspects without providing any reason why, like i said this has all the makings of an ethnic fiasco, they need to start clarify charges and stop dragging this.
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Post by Nikola on May 2, 2012 19:23:11 GMT -5
macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/20918/45/Shooters are: Alil Demiri, Afrim Ismailovic, Agim Ismailovic Wednesday, 02 May 2012The killers are identified, one is in custody, the other two on the run. Agim Ismailovic awaits Court date in prison, while his brother Afrim Ismailovic and Alil Demiri are on the run. After the execution style murder Fejzi Aziri (54) and Rami Sejdi (24) helped the three escape by illegally crossing the border with Kosovo. They too have been charged with terrorism. As previously suspected, police confirmed the three cold blooded killers did not know their victims, rather drove in the area looking for someone to kill. The public prosecutor will seek life sentences for everyone involved. Ex Foreign Minister Antonio Milososki remained on his original belief that the culprits be given the death penalty and executed.
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Post by atdhetar on May 2, 2012 20:12:37 GMT -5
why are the macedonian authorities not releasing any details, how exactly are they tieing these people to the murders? all they have said so far is that they are muslim radicals, this is bizarre, the way they're handling this is amateur at best.
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Post by Shqipni13 on May 2, 2012 22:12:20 GMT -5
^Same old shit with these assholes.
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Post by Novi Pazar on May 2, 2012 23:24:59 GMT -5
I find it really funny how Albanians are the first to denounce these terrorist Wahabbies, but deep down in their own hearts l sense they actually are pleased about it. Really, if Albanians were against these radical groups then why don't their leaders do something about it and ban it? Believe me, they all talk BS in our faces, and behind our backs are secretly supporting these radicals and hoping for more.
To the Albanians in this forum, why don't YOU get involved in your communities and round these warped ones up and throw them all in jail, instead of talking garbage here and deceiving us all with some BS talk. I know the Albanians won't do anything at all about this because they need these radicals in their fight for GREATER ALBANIA.
PS Albanians have threatened us in Balkans because they are aimming by 2015 to have completed their Greater Albania project.
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Post by Nikola on May 3, 2012 1:01:40 GMT -5
Are they all Albanians? They look like Turks.
I'm curious about some of their surnames too. Agim Ismailovic? Afrim Ismailovic? What ethnicity are these people?
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Post by Shqipni13 on May 3, 2012 4:32:17 GMT -5
I find it really funny how Albanians are the first to denounce these terrorist Wahabbies, but deep down in their own hearts l sense they actually are pleased about it. Really, if Albanians were against these radical groups then why don't their leaders do something about it and ban it? Believe me, they all talk BS in our faces, and behind our backs are secretly supporting these radicals and hoping for more. To the Albanians in this forum, why don't YOU get involved in your communities and round these warped ones up and throw them all in jail, instead of talking garbage here and deceiving us all with some BS talk. I know the Albanians won't do anything at all about this because they need these radicals in their fight for GREATER ALBANIA. PS Albanians have threatened us in Balkans because they are aimming by 2015 to have completed their Greater Albania project. Why don't you stop your crying like a little girl, round up your compatriots from here and take back your "holy land"?. You are a clown.
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Post by atdhetar on May 3, 2012 4:55:55 GMT -5
novi you are the offspring of genocidial vampiric creatures who have spilled so much blood, killing indiscriminately for decades....why didn't you spearhead an initiative to capture all the wanted serbian warlords and mass murderers but instead they where offered sanctuary by the serbian clergy and celebrated and venerated as heros of serbia!!!!
novi you are a mindless hypocrite.
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Post by uz on May 3, 2012 13:08:59 GMT -5
Serbs are the leaders in capturing their own "warlords", everyone else in the Balkans has failed.
Don't get me wrong, these arrests were acts of selling out. I agree that they should have been protected.
At the same time this shows how significant Serbia really is, compared to you and your nation/people. You guys are all rooting for Serbia to get into the EU so Serbs can pave the way for you goons to trail right behind, learn to stand on your own feet for once, in history.We had a rise and fall, you guys just know how to fall, and here and there out of pity you're given a crutch, and even then you seem fuck shit up for yourselves and still fall.
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