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Post by Kralj Vatra on Oct 9, 2012 9:06:00 GMT -5
^ Exactly thats what l'm saying. Njezet or 1 x 10 = 20 and Dyzet or 2 x 10 = 40, but the Albanian realised their mistake so they added a dual word katerdhjete which is 4 x 10 = 40 to the f'ed dyzet as a backup. You see man, Albs do have a word for 10 and that is dhjete. Even 11, 12 to 19 is structure in Serbo-slavic fashion ;D 1x10 cannot =20 so common sense comes to play zet =20 so 1x20 is good to go 2 zet's = 40 zet=20? give us some links to some online vocabulary that proves this.... Also why say "one twenty" and not simply just "twenty"? Show us the light you great PELASGIAN cousin!!
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Post by rex362 on Oct 9, 2012 9:41:59 GMT -5
bazë = basis, base, foundation, ground, bases, score
ze = the zet
go check your english -albanintranlator for score again
this is the best I can do
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Oct 9, 2012 9:44:37 GMT -5
Man stop this, you will make us love albs.... I mean albs should be classified as protected species... SAVE ALBS!!!! Save our Planet! I still cannot get it that e.g. the balkan bear or lynx have the right to survive, while Albs not. THIS HAS TO STOP!!! SAVE ALBS!!!
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Post by rex362 on Oct 9, 2012 9:50:06 GMT -5
still again the zet I cannot explain 100%
the only explanation I can see/do is that it is a score and a score=20
if we took the deset from slavia we would of used it for all our 10's
and regardless its only in the number 20 & 40 only ...
novi had said in 60 also but that is dead wrong ...and he and you are acting as if you have discovered oil out of uncle Draza's ass
how do you say 1 million in slavic ?
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Oct 9, 2012 10:10:26 GMT -5
mysteries like that is the spice of life....
sometimes the answer is in Serbia/Bosnia/RS/YU. other times the answer is in checnhya.... (or should i just say minor asia???) But always the road is long and lonely cousin boy...
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Post by Novi Pazar on Oct 9, 2012 16:54:17 GMT -5
^ His lost, because Albs have katerdhjete and dyzet, why the dual words for the same number. It proves my point they AQUIRED *ZET* INCORRECTLY!
2 x10 = 40 dyzet and the proper meaning of katerdhjete which is 4 x 10 = 40. But the classic is Njezet or 1 x 10 = 20.
PS Back to school LMAO
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Post by Novi Pazar on Oct 9, 2012 19:55:56 GMT -5
^ my darling Shqiptar, whilst these languages have flow 2 X 20 = 40 or 3 x 20 = 60 your corrupted language uses the borrowed ZET as 1 x 10 = 20, then your dumb a$$es had realised this and added the word Katerdhjete which is the correct way of saying 40 or 4 x 10 = 40.
PS If katerdhjete is used as a backup to dyzet or 40, then why isn't there a backup for Njezet too....because it was aquired wrongly.
BACK TO SCHOOL!
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Post by atdhetar on Oct 9, 2012 20:15:25 GMT -5
Man stop this, you will make us love albs.... I mean albs should be classified as protected species... SAVE ALBS!!!! Save our Planet! I still cannot get it that e.g. the balkan bear or lynx have the right to survive, while Albs not. THIS HAS TO STOP!!! SAVE ALBS!!! i would have thought that you would fall into the category of a endangered species picko, you're a greek or vlach and arvanite descend who has denounced his own roots and believes he is a slav, you equate ancient greeks and slavs, you are responsible for so many outlandish claims and just ridiculous theories that the only way to contain your spread of stupidity is to put you in a strait jacket quarantine you in a wildlife reserve where you can graze on green pastures with dumb novi. i mean motherfuckers don't come more peculiar then you picko, you are such an oddball that unesco should add to the list of world heritage and take you under their care, as far crazy barstards go picko, you are on a league of your own.
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Post by atdhetar on Oct 9, 2012 20:19:34 GMT -5
^ my darling Shqiptar, whilst these languages have flow 2 X 20 = 40 or 3 x 20 = 60 your corrupted language uses the borrowed ZET as 1 x 10 = 20, then your dumb a$$es had realised this and added the word Katerdhjete which is the correct way of saying 40 or 4 x 10 = 40. PS If katerdhjete is used as a backup to dyzet or 40, then why isn't there a backup for Njezet too....because it was aquired wrongly. BACK TO SCHOOL! stupid motherfucker can't speak his own language but thinks he's an expert in albanian
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2012 20:31:06 GMT -5
dhihem tu qesh sa her vij ktu dhe shof ktë temën e numrave ... një rrot kari si puna e novit ia këput me ca gomarlliqe dhe ne ja kthejm me llogjik ... po a han pyk serboqorrat? ;D
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Post by Novi Pazar on Oct 9, 2012 20:34:04 GMT -5
^ you Albs are going off on a tangent.
Thelema tell me why theres a dyzet and a katerdhjete? but these words mean the opposite (2 x 10 = 40 and 4 x 10 = 40)
First learn how to count ;D
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Post by atdhetar on Oct 9, 2012 20:37:14 GMT -5
dyzet means 2 scores and katerdhjet means four lots of 10 you f**king imbecile, when are you going to get that through thick, impervious skull
its the same s**tting thing cretin, my gawd!!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2012 20:38:00 GMT -5
Novi you have the kind of self-satisfaction with your own arguments that is so often the hallmark of the inferior minds, ... I'll leave you to enjoy it. We are enjoying KosovA.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Oct 9, 2012 21:10:33 GMT -5
^ I'm enjoying it also, thugs and NENE Amerikes are the administrators. Nene Amerikes is your ruler, and its time to work and learn! PS This is the best outcome, they have isolated you idiots while you believe your free. You will be robbed and finally we will clean the trash!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2012 21:46:12 GMT -5
You don't have to worry about us, so why are you giving us friendly council? I think everything will become unkinked and smooth itself out. Better some american intervention than having to put up with your ignorant assess. So, we'll be enjoying Kosova, and denying it to you, while you feel free to play with garbage-men all day.
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Post by uz on Oct 9, 2012 22:00:54 GMT -5
I`m trying to follow this zet phenomenon and this thread is impossible ... what hell is the verdict on not multiplying properly lol
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Post by Novi Pazar on Oct 9, 2012 22:24:07 GMT -5
^ UZ, just a reminder for our uneducated Albano-Shqiptars:
Albanian numbers - njëzet (one times ten) = twenty!
1x10 = 20; 2x10 = 40 If you think this calculation is wrong, go to Albania and you find it all okay! Albanian is the only language in the world where twenty is not two times ten but one times ten! One of the key evidences that Albanians borrowed foreign words according to their hearing and (mis)understanding are the Albanian numbers.
Number one is një and this number is in accordance with the other IE languages. Number 'ten' is 'dhjetë' - OK Number 'eleven' is 'njëmbëdhjetë' (borrowed Slavic structure 'jedan-na- deset', 'dva-na-deset' one-on-ten, two-on-ten; Albanian twelve is 'dymbëdhjetë'). Tridhjetë is thirty in Albanian (Serbian tri-deset - tree times ten) and it is correct; Now we are encountering the serious difficulties; namely, Albanian twenty is not dy-dhjetë (dy = two; two time ten) as we could have normally expected but një-zet; i.e. one time ten! In Albanian 1x10 = 20 (interesting, is it not?!)
It seems, Albanians borrowed Serbian/Slavic 'deset' (ten; not Romance dec-, dez-, dix-) and the suffix -zet confirms it very picturesquely; like in Serbian colloquial 'dva'set', 'tri'set' instead of dva-de-set, tri-de-set (twenty, thirty).
Finally, in Albanian two time ten is forty (2x10=40) Albanian dyzet (forty); i.e. dy (two) time -zet (ten) is dyzet (forty). Nevertheless, Albanians seem to have noted that 'dyzet' might be incorrectly acquired, and they added 'katërdhjetë' - just in case
The Romanian and Latin siffixes -zece and -ginti (Rom. două-zeci or Lat. d/vi-ginti) and Albanian -zet could represent only number ten. Albanian zot means god or host/ess (that word was derived from the same Gon basis as Germanic got or Serbian gazda /master/; Albanian zotëri gentleman; cf. Greek ισοθεος/isotheos godlike; Σωτήρος/Soteros Christ; Latin Saturnus) and the fact is that it sprang from the same Ur-basis as -zet. Nevertheless, it does not mean that -zet and zot have anything in common semantically.
For instance, the Serbian word zet (son in law) is also Gon "product"; i.e. it is a shortened form of the word doma-ćin or doma- zet (Greek δαμαζω/domazo gain the mastery over, owerpower). Abdullah's proposed tw- assibilation is a nice try but it cannot be applied in this specific case in the way he'd like it to be. Of course, something similar is possible, like in Romanian dece => zece transformation, but thus we are going back to the number TEN again - not twenty.
This Albanian -zet reminds me to the Albanian word motër which means "sister" instead of "mother". Other IE languages are associating word "mater" (mother) with 'maturity' (Serbian mater mother, mator old, mudar sagacious, matori father) and it clearly shows that something unusual is going on when Albanian language is in question.
The most close word to Albanian njëzet (twenty) is Welsh ugain (twenty); Welsh also used vigesimal system (deugain is forty /two twenty/). Probably one would say that deugain is a counterpart to Albanian dyzet (forty), and I must admit it sounds similar, at least at first sight.
Nevertheless, we are going to see that Welsh ugain originated from Latin viginti (twenty). Latin viginti is the same as Dutch twintig or English twenty or Russian dvádtsat’ with the initial dental being lost (cf. double, Latin duplo and prefix bi- /blix doubled thread; blix from dublix/duplex/). It means that twenty is composed from two+gant/ sant in all IE languages. Greek είκοσι(twenty) also comes from the same basis (d/va-kant, Latin viginti); i.e. from d/ewi-kosi.
Albanian: dhjetë Basque: hamar Breton: dek Catalan: deu Cornish: dek Corsican: deci Croatian: deset Czech: deset Danish: ti Dutch: tien French: dix Frisian: tsien German: zehn Greek: δέκα (déka) Gujarati: દશ (daśa) Hindi: दस (das) Hungarian: tíz Icelandic: tíu Irish: deich Italian: dieci Komi: дас (das) Kurdish: deh Latin: decem, X Latvian: desmit Norwegian: ti Novial: dek Occitan: dètz Old English: tīen, tēn Persian: دَه (dæh) Polish: dziesięć Portuguese: dez Punjabi: ਦਸ (das) Romanian: zece Romany: desh Russian: десять (désjat’) Sanskrit: (dashan), दश (daśa) Scots Gaelic: deich Serbian deset Sindhi: ڏَهَه (daha) Slovak: desať Slovene: deset Spanish: diez Swedish: tio (^) Welsh: deg
Albanian njëzet Breton: ugent Bulgarian: двадесет (dvadeset) Croatian: dvadeset Czech: dvacet Danish: tyve Dutch: twintig f. Frisian: tweintich German: zwanzig f. Greek: είκοσι (eíkosi) Indonesian: dua puluh Irish: fiche, g.s. fichead Italian: venti m. Latin: viginti Latvian: divdesmit Manx: feed Norwegian: tjue Novial: duanti Polish: dwadzieścia Portuguese: vinte Romanian: douăzeci Russian: двадцать (dvádtsat’) Sanskrit: vimshatí Scottish Gaelic: fichead Serbian: dvadeset Slovak: dvajset Slovene: dvajset Spanish: veinte Swedish: tjugo Ukrainian: двайцять (dvajtsjat’) Welsh: ugain (vigesimal, traditional), dau ddeg m (decimal), dwy ddeg f (decimal)
Albanian is IE language thanks to the IE borrowing, which have occupied more than 90% of they modern vocabulary. I never claimed that Albanian is not IE but I told that Albanian was not IE language by its origin.
Romanian două-zeci or Latin d/vi-ginti and Albanian -zet could represent only number ten. Albanian 'zot' means god or host/ess (that word was derived from the same Gon basis as Germanic got or Serbian gazda /master/; Albanian zotëri gentleman; cf. Greek ισοθεος/isotheos godlike; Σωτήρος/Soteros Christ; Latin Saturnus) and the fact is that it sprang from the same ur-basis as -zet. Nevertheless, it does not mean that -zet and zot have anything in common semantically.
For instance, the Serbian word zet (son in law) is also Gon "product"; i.e. it is a shortened form of the word doma-ćin or doma- zet (Greek δαμαζω/domazo gain the mastery over, owerpower). Abdullah's proposed tw- assibilation is a nice try but it cannot be applied in this specific case in the way he'd like it to be. Of course, something similar is possible, like in Romanian dece => zece transformation, but thus we are going back to the number TEN again - not twenty.
There is a Tosk Albanian word zjétë (ten) instaed of Gheg dhet (ten) and standard Albanian dhjetë. Now we can additionally confirm that Tosk zjétë means "ten", especially if we compare that word with the Romanian word zece (ten).
This Albanian -zet reminds me to the Albanian word motër which means "sister" instead of "mother". Other IE languages are associating word 'mater' (mother) with 'maturity' (Serbian mater mother, mator old, mudar sagacious, matori father) and it clearly shows that something unusual is going on when Albanian language is in question.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2012 22:56:12 GMT -5
O ignorant. Idiot. Deficient.
Stop vomiting out Dusan Vukotic crap.
Your source is full of shit and you are full of shit. The Albanian language is European because it represents an early split from the main body of European language. No language ever switches families just by borrowing enough words. Turkish will always be Altaic group no matter how many English words it picks up. Hebrew will always be a Semitic language and Chinese could never become a European language. If you and your source don't understand that, do the world a favor and keep a hot Chernobyl rod in your thong. Languages don't switch families like a wolf in sheep's clothing. Idiot.
I don't have the time or really the inclination to entertain your deluded amateurism to deal with everything that's wrong in your "cut and paste" job so I'll just skip to the last paragraph. Let me preface it by saying that your source is an idiot and you are an idiot and you both know nothing about linguistics.
The word "mother" ultimately stems from the IndoEuropean *meter*. It does not indicate 'maturity' - as your idiot source claims - rather it indicates mother/substance which is why it the root of words like "mother", "matter", and "matrix". In Albanian the word has flipped to indicate a female familial relationship, in our case motër.
It has nothing to do with - as you try to bullshit us - with wisedom. (Serbian mater mother, mator old, mudar sagacious, matori father) Old, sagacious, father? L.O. Fucking.L. WTF? Idiot.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Oct 9, 2012 23:04:25 GMT -5
dhihem tu qesh sa her vij ktu dhe shof ktë temën e numrave ... një rrot kari si puna e novit ia këput me ca gomarlliqe dhe ne ja kthejm me llogjik ... po a han pyk serboqorrat? ;D Only english and Serbian are allowed here. Not distorted copy of Serbian (albanian).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2012 23:06:31 GMT -5
dhihem tu qesh sa her vij ktu dhe shof ktë temën e numrave ... një rrot kari si puna e novit ia këput me ca gomarlliqe dhe ne ja kthejm me llogjik ... po a han pyk serboqorrat? ;D Only english and Serbian are allowed here. Not distorted copy of Serbian (albanian). I thought you'd understand your mother tongue my in-denial-Albanian friend.
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