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Post by Novi Pazar on Oct 10, 2012 17:30:34 GMT -5
Compiled Albanian Language
It would be interesting to see if Abdulah would be able to explain the origin of the Albanian word 'kolibe' (hut, Serb. koliba; Ukr. kolyba). In Serbian, this word clearly come from the adverb 'okolo' (round) and the verb 'biti' (beat, strike). Serbian 'glib' (mud) is the first material used in the hut construction. Albanian 'baltë' seems to be a clear-cut borrowing from the Serbian ('blato' mud). 'Koliba' was made of 'GLIB' as 'palata' (palace, Alb. palatt) was "upraised" from 'BLATA'.
Albanian "rule" is 'ZAKON', the same word which in Serbian means "rule", "law", "custom". In fact, Serbian ZAKON originated from the reduplicated GON syllable in the similar way as it happened to other Serbian words as 'kuća' (home), 'konak' (hostel), ZAGONITI (drive something behind someone's back), ZAKUĆITI (SKUĆITI, economize, husband). Of course, there are hundreds of other words with the same ancestral history, for instance Serb. ISKATI (eng. ask). All what had been ISKAZANO (told, agreed by talks) became later the part of written or custom law (ZAKON) and anyone who would dare to break such law should be subjected to punishment (Serb. KAZNA).
The modern Albanians are trying to prove that Albanian is the descendant of ancient (extinct) Illyrian language. The fervent 'dëshirë' (desire, Lat. desidere) of the Albanian scientists to prove impossible is understandable and their young fiery (Alb. 'zjarrtë', Serbian žariti, žarovit; ra-zjariti to rage; RA-ZJAREN choleric, angry; Serb. ŽAR > Alb. ZJARR) national zealotry, but it looks enormously ridiculous when some West-European scientists are trying to help the Albanian colleagues to build the miraculous linguistic castle between earth and sky. I think that the Albanian MJEGULL (Serb. MAGLA fog) should be dispersed (Alb. shpërthej, Ger. sprengen, Serb. prsnuti. isprskati, brz, prognati, pregnuti, spregnuti) in order to see the fundament (Alb. themeloj < Serb. temelj) of Albanian languages, which has been completely made of Greek, Latin and Serbian vocabulary and a few words Shqiptar have brought from their old Caucasian land.
I hoped that the descendant of the old Illyrian tribes would have the theory how it happened that "Illyro-Shqiptar" language borrowed so many Slavic (Serbian) words. I was wrong, obviously. He, he... Alb. kastravec (cucmber), metathesis from the Serbian 'krastavac' Sometimes the Albanian loan-words are so garbled and deformed that it make almost impossible to see where they really came from. For instance, who would say that Albanian 'drejtim' is related to the Latin 'directus'?; or the Albanian 'shekull' (century) to the Greek κύκλος (L.L. 'cyclus'); Albanian 'mbresë' (scar) sprung from the nasalised Serbian 'obrezati' (cut, circumcize; obrez > oMbrez; similar Alb. ëmbël nicely, from Italian 'bello'): Albanian adjective 'përzhitur' (scorched) from the Serbian 'pržiti' (scorch); Albanian 'këngëtar' (singer) from the Latin ,canto'; in Albanian 'motër' is 'sister'!!! (Serbian 'mater' mother); Albanian 'shpërlaj' (rinse) from the Serbian ispirati, isprati, ispralo se, prati, pranje (wash out, rinse); Albanian 'rrënjë' (root) from the Serbian 'ko-renje' (roots); Albanian 'djal' (devil) from the Serbian 'đavo-l' (Serb. dialectal 'đavl'); Albanian 'rradhë' (row) from the Serbian 'red' (raw, order); Albanians are well-known weapon admirers, but they are still using the Serbian word for the gun (pushkë); from the Serbian verb 'pucati' (puknuti, puci explode; puška gun); Albanian 'gardh' (hedge) from the Serbian 'ograda' (fence): 'bregore' (hillock) from Serbian 'breg' (hill); For instance, how to understand the Albanian word 'padurim' (impatience) where the Latin 'duratus' is well visible?
I know that Konjushevic will remain silent again and I wrote this only to show some Western scientists that the "Sqiptar-Illyrian" story is the most ridiculous fiction and a myth for the unripe, uneducated and naive, half idiotic people.
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Post by atdhetar on Oct 10, 2012 18:12:10 GMT -5
the albanian word for cucumber is trangull...although kastravec is widely used
the word for scar is shenje, never heard of mbrese being used in that regard, the word 'mbrese' in albanian means memory, smth that stood out form the past.
we never use 'perzhit', in tosk the word for scorched is 'shkrrumb' or 'hi(ash)'.
the word for rinse is 'shplaj' and not shperlaj, that word does not even exist, we have a word 'perlaj', which means to devour or gobble up.
'djall' comes from latin moron, diavolo, tsk tsk tsk.
rradhe and red aren't even remotely alike.
gardh - ograda hmmm faint similaritiy, maybe on to smth here, where i come from we also use 'rez' for fence and for herds it is vath.
maybe he has a point in 5-6 of those but others are plucked from thin air and it shows the lack of knowledge and scientific work, this is not even amateur level.
yes bregore is a word we use but the prominent word for hills is koder
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2012 21:09:51 GMT -5
Novi Pazar wrote: (Alb. shpërthej, Ger. sprengen, Serb. prsnuti. isprskati, brz, prognati, pregnuti, spregnuti)
Novi t'qift breshka me kastravec pa vaj.
Shpërthej has nothing whatsoever to do with Slavic or Serb. Your ignorance shows itself because you only try to approximate it with something that exists in the Serb language. In fact, the Albanian word is a composite word, it is part of a group of words that are formed by placing a ‘negative’ in front of a word or action: for instance, “palos” becomes “sh-palos”, “bëj” becomes “shpër-bëj”, “laj” becomes “shpër-laj” and so on for “shpartalloj”, “shpërthej”, "shpërblej","shpërdor","shpërngul".
But since you have zero knowledge of Albanian you try to pull this kind of s**t where if two things sort of look alike, you can force them into your bulls**t ignorant agenda. Ma ha kastravecin si lopa barin.
Kastravec is borrowed into Greek also, as your Pyrros brate reminds us so often, but that doesn’t catch your eye does it.? So, why do Greeks with all their long and verified ancient language track and history pick up Slavic words?
May 4, 2012, 12:46pm, Pyrros wrote: In our village we didnt say "aggouri" (cucumber) we said kastraveci (krastavac), we didn't say kefali (head) we said glava, we didn;t say saura (lizzard) we said gousterica....(albs, greeks)
Alb “shekull” is more closely related to Latin “sciecolo” than to Greek κύκλος. Alb “ëmbël” (sweet, not ‘nicely’) has nothing to do with the Italian “bello” (beautifyul). Just more bulls**t amateur etymology from your ‘source’. Sticka a kastravec up your ass and bray.
Novi Pazar wrote: For instance, who would say that Albanian 'drejtim' is related to the Latin 'directus'?; or the Albanian 'shekull' (century) to the Greek κύκλος (L.L. 'cyclus'); Albanian 'mbresë' (scar) sprung from the nasalised Serbian 'obrezati' (cut, circumcize; obrez > oMbrez; similar Alb. ëmbël nicely, from Italian 'bello')
Albanian adjective 'përzhitur' (scorched) from the Serbian 'pržiti' (scorch); Albanian 'këngëtar' (singer) from the Latin ,canto'; in Albanian 'motër' is 'sister'!!! (Serbian 'mater' mother); Albanian 'shpërlaj' (rinse) from the Serbian ispirati, isprati, ispralo se, prati, pranje (wash out, rinse); Albanian 'rrënjë' (root) from the Serbian 'ko-renje' (roots); Albanian 'djal' (devil) from the Serbian 'đavo-l' (Serb. dialectal 'đavl'); Albanian 'rradhë' (row) from the Serbian 'red' (raw, order); Albanians are well-known weapon admirers, but they are still using the Serbian word for the gun (pushkë); from the Serbian verb 'pucati' (puknuti, puci explode; puška gun); Albanian 'gardh' (hedge) from the Serbian 'ograda' (fence): 'bregore' (hillock) from Serbian 'breg' (hill); For instance, how to understand the Albanian word 'padurim' (impatience) where the Latin 'duratus' is well visible?
Alb “mbresë” actually means impression, same as in English, it comes from the Latin “impresso” and follows the same Alb phonetic rules by which the Latin “imperator” becomes the Alb “mbret” and Latin “impresso” become “mbresë”. Zero connection with Serb; but I guess it must have been amateur hour when your ‘source’ did his profound scholarly work. Ma lëpij pak kurorën e karit.
Alb “motër” is a flip from proto-Indo European, it is a word so f**king basic that all Indo-European languages have it. Greek ‘matera’, English ‘mother’, Italian and Spanish ‘madre’, French ‘mere’. The same can be said for Alb “djall”, Eng. ‘devil’ , Fr. And Ital. ‘diavolo’, Spanish ‘diablo’ etc, etc. Nothing f**king whatsoever to do with Slavic / Serb. What kind of s**t are you trying to peddle here?
Gardh? Are you f**king kidding me, man? We both get it from an old Germanic word ‘grad’, it means ‘enclosure’, referring to enclosed Germanic soldier camps. It is the source of many words in many languages, including the English ‘garden’, names of cities like StalinGRAD, BeoGRAD, StuttGART etc.
Linguistic-Historical Implications of an Old Germanic Loan - Romanian gard 'fence, enclosure, weir, garden'. Mankind Quarterly 50. 1/2 (Fall 2009/Winter 2010): 25-70.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2012 21:17:59 GMT -5
Novi you are an idiot. When I take a shit I deliver more truth and right judgment than your linguistic source. You show zero understanding of Albanian. And you know even less about Serb language in all likelihood.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Oct 10, 2012 21:32:51 GMT -5
^ my posts are legit, prove dyzet and katerdhjete are not the same.
Its OVAH!
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Post by atdhetar on Oct 11, 2012 3:26:37 GMT -5
wow this motherfucker still thinks he won, tsk tsk tsk, you guys need some heavy duty medication.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Oct 11, 2012 4:40:12 GMT -5
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Post by Skroz on Oct 11, 2012 5:18:10 GMT -5
Why is the Serbian forum filled with Albanian crap?
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Post by atdhetar on Oct 11, 2012 5:18:40 GMT -5
that's not the point you clueless imbecile, point is its not slavic and we did not borrow it from serbs,
its a recurring theme, word after word, borrowed from greek, latin, IE roots...what does that tell you little picka?
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Oct 11, 2012 5:48:54 GMT -5
that's not the point you clueless imbecile, point is its not slavic and we did not borrow it from serbs, its a recurring theme, word after word, borrowed from greek, latin, IE roots...what does that tell you little picka? no lil rat, the recurring theme is that most of your terms for non-abstract concepts (diavolos is an abstract one) is directly stolen from your superior Serbs. The list compiled here by Novi is a good sample from this vast sea of Serbian words into the so called "alb" tang.
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Post by atdhetar on Oct 11, 2012 6:42:56 GMT -5
you stupid fuck stop talking you're such an rudementary wanker, what is a non abstract concept? ? you don't even know the meaning of the words you use, you're gonna give yourself a brain aneurism, pompous prick, you are the epitome of ignorance my Lord!
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Post by Novi Pazar on Oct 11, 2012 7:06:59 GMT -5
Why is the Serbian forum filled with Albanian crap? Albanians don't respect FREEDOM OF SPEECH so its safe here. If its in AF it will be deleted!
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Post by Novi Pazar on Oct 11, 2012 7:09:20 GMT -5
that's not the point you clueless imbecile, point is its not slavic and we did not borrow it from serbs, its a recurring theme, word after word, borrowed from greek, latin, IE roots...what does that tell you little picka? no lil rat, the recurring theme is that most of your terms for non-abstract concepts (diavolos is an abstract one) is directly stolen from your superior Serbs. The list compiled here by Novi is a good sample from this vast sea of Serbian words into the so called "alb" tang. Brate, the most borrowings in modern Albanian come via Greek and Latin (Vlach), then Serbian (Slavic). 90% of Shqiptarian lang is borrowed LMAO
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Oct 11, 2012 8:40:24 GMT -5
what is a non abstract concept? ? krastavec ;D ;D
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Oct 11, 2012 8:41:42 GMT -5
in the meantime lil rat, relax..... we want you here (to make us laugh)
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Post by rex362 on Oct 11, 2012 9:25:48 GMT -5
Why is the Serbian forum filled with Albanian crap? to be honest ....
Assimilated Albanians coming out
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Post by Skroz on Oct 11, 2012 10:22:28 GMT -5
to be honest ....
Assimilated Albanians coming out The Serbian forum should be renamed to Albania2.0 with all these Albanian threads here ;D
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