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Post by Novi Pazar on Oct 10, 2012 17:45:44 GMT -5
Cyba-cave conlangering linguists of the Konushevci type (reconstruction of never-existing Proto-Albanian) are unable to see that their confabulations and “scientific” self-delusions imbued their brain-cells so vigorously (and irrecoverable), creating a sort of a deep “rooted” dumbness inside their mental cortex, that no one of them is capable of giving the simple answers to the most ordinary questions.
There have never been any *ster “root” and such an idea would be much more suitable to fantasy writers like Lewis Carroll or (better) J.R.R. Tolkien. The “root” where the all ‘ster’ words appeared was in fact the primeval basis SUR-HOR. There from we have the words as Sahara (from Arabic ‘çahra’), Serb. ‘sušara’ (drier; Alb. ‘shuhem’ wither / from Serb. suho, sušiti dry), Serb. ‘izgoreti’ (burn out), Eng. ‘scorch’, Serb. ‘skoreti’ (calcify, harden, encrust; hence Serb. ‘kora’ crust, cortex; Alb. ‘kore’), Serb. ‘zgura’ (scum, slag, cinder, dross, SCORIA; cf. Serb. ‘izgoreti’ burn out and ‘skoreti’ calcify, harden, incrust), Alb. ‘zgjyrë’ (from Serbian ‘zgura’; izgoreti => skoreti => zgura). The process of burning (Serb. goreti, izgoreti) is a process where a large enflamed object becomes at the end a small and “crouched” (Serb. ‘zguren’) accumulation of rubbles and ashes.
As a matter of fact, what would remain (rubbles and ashes) after process of combustion could be easily packed up into one corner of an area in comparison with the previous volume that object had been occupying before burning; whatever was scorched (burned) or destroyed by the lightning or burning, must have been cramped, distorted and squeezed (Serb. ‘zgrčen’; Alb. ‘ngërç’ /obviously from Serb. ‘grč’ / cramp).
There are other Serbian words like ‘skrkati’ => ‘skršiti’ (break, crack, shutter), ‘skratiti’ (shorten), also ‘iskra’ (iskriti, iskrenje sparkle); ‘šćućuriti se’ (to squat, hunker, cower),‘saterati’ (pound, tree, place or shut up in a sheepfold, corral, cote or pound), ‘isterati’ (expel, evict, eject), ‘satirati’ (destroy), ‘zatirati’ (eradicate); velar to dental changes: ‘izgoreti’ (burn out) => ‘zguriti’/ ‘zgrčiti’ (cramp, hump, crouch) => ‘izgurati’ (push out) => ‘išćerati’ (evict, expel) => ‘isterati’ (evict, eject, fire out), ‘isturiti’ (pop out, protrude, stick out, project; cf. Serb. ‘proturiti’ and Eng. ‘protrude’).
HOR-GON basis was the source of the Serbian word ‘teranje’ (from KRUG / circle/, ‘kruženje’ /circling/, ‘traženje’ /search/, ‘teranje’ /via ‘ćeranje’ driving/; and the Serbian mountain and river Tara has nothing to do directly with Albanian ‘ter’ (dry), because Shqip ‘ter’ is the word from the same “arsenal” as Latin ‘terra’ (earth, terrain), ‘durus’, ‘dura’ (hard, harsh, rough, durable), Serbian ‘duranje’ (suffer /especially thirst and hunger; also ‘tr-peti’), 'deranje' (tearing, crying), 'diranje' (touching), 'trenje' (friction), 'na-diranje' (onrush /of water/). In reality, English words ‘drying’ and ‘driving’ are related to the Serbian ‘teranje’ (driving) and ‘u/terivanje’ (driving in), ‘o/ terivanje’ (driving out) and that similarity was the result of the “driving out” of water during flooding period (people tried to “dry out” the agricultural land); hence the Latin ‘terrenum’ (earth, ground, land, terrain).
Finally, the solution for the name of Tara mountain and Tara river lies in the words as Serbian ‘udar’ (strike, blast, impact, slam, clap), ‘darivanje’ /’dar’ (gift; from 'uterivanje' driving in), ‘drvo’ (Russ. đerevo дерево tree; cf. Serb. ‘gorivo’ fuel), Eng. 'tree' Serbian ‘trebanje’/’po-treba’ (need), Ger. ’treiben’ (Eng. drive, Serb. u/terivanje), Ger. 'drehen’ (turn, spin, rotate), Eng. 'tare' (weedy annual grass often occurs in grainfields and other cultivated land; seeds sometimes considered poisonous), Serb. 'trava' (grass), 'otrov' (poison).
(This is the first part of my answer to Abdullah's Cave-list stupidity named "Five *ster")
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Post by Novi Pazar on Oct 10, 2012 17:48:26 GMT -5
Underneath are the Albanian words interesting for the current subject; as you can see, most of them are of clear Serbian origin:
Albanian pemë, dru (tree; Serb. 'drvo'), 1. drejtoj (drive; probably from Serbian 'teraj to' drive it), 2. vozis, vozita (from Serb. 'voziti' drive /car/), 3. bar (grass; lëndinë grass-land from Serb. 'ledina'), 4. godas, godita (strike, shoot; from Serb. 'gađati', 'po-goditi' shoot, strike the target), 5. prek (touch; probably from Serb. 'preko' over, Serb. 'preći preko' touching movement), 6. kërkoj (search; from Serb. kruženje/traženje /'krug' circle, see above kruženje, guranje, ćeranje, teranje/), 7. gris (tear; probably from Serb. griz, ugriz, gristi bite, gnaw), 8. nevojë (need; from Serb. 'nevolja' trouble), 9. shtyp, shtypa (press; from Serb. 'štipati' pinch) ; 10. shtrëngoj (squeeze, tighten, clench; Serb. struganje /shuffle, scraping, shave/, Serb. 'strogoća' strictness, stringency, Serb. 'strog' strict, imperative), 11. helm (poison).
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Post by rex362 on Oct 10, 2012 18:37:09 GMT -5
you have plenty of words here .....how do you know if they were not borrowed serbian from Albanian
can you do a comparison of your serbian words with other slavic languages first to see whats up
report and come back
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Post by rex362 on Oct 10, 2012 18:46:11 GMT -5
and many of your words is serbian are not coming up even on translator .....I assume they are local applications gained from mingling with Albs where you getting this garbage from Novi
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Post by rex362 on Oct 10, 2012 19:05:39 GMT -5
NOVI important ,,,,your Albanian words here are not all kosher bcs most of em are used by Albs from the SFRY the Albanians from Albania will misprove you in a large way
and yes we ex yugo Albs might use the words but that doesnt mean its the Albanian word for it ....PICHKA !!! ;D
but anyways
1. drejtoj (drive; probably from Serbian 'teraj to' drive it),
means to straiten /align
its Ngas in Alb ....but we do use vozit from voz the train
your serbian is way off here Novi you dont have lendine in Carpathia
serbian off here also
serbian off here also
off more on the serb
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serbian off
serbian is off
off again
sort of off
helm is ours from ancient time ..elm Rep
yes Novi ...whoever gave you this sh!t is off ....the serbian you show here ....most of it is localized ..and most likely taken from Albanians ....where did you say your from ?
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Post by Novi Pazar on Oct 10, 2012 20:09:51 GMT -5
^ Yes Rex, so Krastavec was borrowed from Shqiptar-Alb LMAO
Do you ever feel shame for BS'ing all day long.
Its OVAH man, give it up
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Oct 11, 2012 2:25:22 GMT -5
you have plenty of words here .....how do you know if they were not borrowed serbian from Albanian can you do a comparison of your serbian words with other slavic languages first to see whats up
report and come back you do that you fucking tool, and you will see that the rest of slavic is damn close to those words... OH WAIT!!! i already have Rex's answer!!!!! Albos borrowed from Bulgarians, not SerbsLMAO, you fucking tools
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Oct 11, 2012 2:26:44 GMT -5
its Ngas in Alb .... but we do use vozit from voz the trainHA HA HA HAAAAAAAA !!!! thanx cousin boy!!! HA HA HA
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Oct 11, 2012 2:31:14 GMT -5
Underneath are the Albanian words interesting for the current subject; as you can see, most of them are of clear Serbian origin: Albanian pem�, dru (tree; Serb. 'drvo'), 1. drejtoj (drive; probably from Serbian 'teraj to' drive it), 2. vozis, vozita (from Serb. 'voziti' drive /car/), 3. bar (grass; l�ndin� grass-land from Serb. 'ledina'), 4. godas, godita (strike, shoot; from Serb. 'gađati', 'po-goditi' shoot, strike the target), 5. prek (touch; probably from Serb. 'preko' over, Serb. 'preći preko' touching movement), 6. k�rkoj (search; from Serb. kru�enje/tra�enje /'krug' circle, see above kru�enje, guranje, ćeranje, teranje/), 7. gris (tear; probably from Serb. griz, ugriz, gristi bite, gnaw), 8. nevoj� (need; from Serb. 'nevolja' trouble), 9. shtyp, shtypa (press; from Serb. '�tipati' pinch) ; 10. shtr�ngoj (squeeze, tighten, clench; Serb. struganje /shuffle, scraping, shave/, Serb. 'strogoća' strictness, stringency, Serb. 'strog' strict, imperative), 11. helm (poison). 1-2 words could escape the list (not really, just a little harder to fully connect with Serbian). the rest (90%) ---> FULLY and OBVIOUSLY SERBIAN ....
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Post by Novi Pazar on Oct 11, 2012 7:13:03 GMT -5
^ I agree brate.
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Post by rex362 on Oct 11, 2012 9:43:36 GMT -5
its Ngas in Alb .... but we do use vozit from voz the trainHA HA HA HAAAAAAAA !!!! thanx cousin boy!!! HA HA HA thanks for what ....dont you understand that us Albs from Yugo do have common words with slavs ,gypsies vlachs and turkey especially when 90% of yugo Albs speak slavo fluently ....fool ! but Novi with his word list is in shame when Albs from Albanian lay eyes on his bs
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Post by rex362 on Oct 11, 2012 9:45:33 GMT -5
Pyrros .....Novi is your cousin also ...he is Alb from Sanxhak
look at all the white plis hats ,the soilders are mostly Alb i ottoman army also ...enjoy
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Oct 11, 2012 14:32:39 GMT -5
rex, the king of them all yo!
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Post by atdhetar on Oct 11, 2012 15:19:48 GMT -5
Albanian pemë, dru (tree; Serb. 'drvo')
wrong...peme = tree and dru = wood, the phonetics and etymologies are way off idiot, dru is the shortened form of derrase.
drejtoj (drive; probably from Serbian 'teraj to' drive it)
drejtoj and teraj are not even close, why would you even mentioned it dumbo? the sounds are way off. this is more likely to be derived from latin dirito(straight), the word drejtoj is a general description of an action of steering, not necessarily drive, drejt also means in a straight line.
2. vozis, vozita (from Serb. 'voziti' drive /car/)
the word for drive in albanian is 'ngas' not vozis, vozis is specifically used to indicate paddling a boat, it indicates the motion of the oars, you'd never use vozis to say say you're driving, u'd get laughed at, in albania proper that is.
3. bar (grass; lëndinë grass-land from Serb. 'ledina'),
bar and lendine are not the same, bar means 'grass' while lendine = medow, lendine does not sound slavic at all, i would be curious to compare that to russian or other forms of slavic,
bar comes from latin 'erba' douche-head, educate thyself.
4. godas, godita (strike, shoot; from Serb. 'gađati', 'po-goditi' shoot, strike the target),
this sounds similiar, but we have an albanian equivalent 'qelloj', both are equally used widely, but the main word for strike in albanian is 'gjuaj'
5. prek (touch; probably from Serb. 'preko' over, Serb. 'preći preko' touching movement),
this one may be legit, provided it can be corroborated by the wider slavic languages.
6. kërkoj (search; from Serb. kruženje/traženje /'krug' circle, see above kruženje, guranje, ćeranje, teranje/),
kerkoj and all those slavic words do not even sound alike, this is just smth an amateur would put together, the providence of kerkoj lies perhaps with the latin/italian 'cerco', the phonetics and structures match, both two syllable words with emphasis both on the latter syllable.
7. gris (tear; probably from Serb. griz, ugriz, gristi bite, gnaw),
tear and bite, gnaw are not the same, not even a little bit, this is not even speculative but rather hopeful, but the entire serb hypothesis is a wild stab in the dark really.
other form of 'gris' are shqep, pres.
8. nevojë (need; from Serb. 'nevolja' trouble),
look idiot this word is clearly of latin providence, based on the verb 'voglio' pronounced as 'voljo' meaning need, want. there is the same word in romanian.
9. shtyp, shtypa (press; from Serb. 'štipati' pinch) ;
pinch is not the same as press you idiot, the actual structures d not even match, the slavic one is 3 syllable whereas the albanian word is only one, besides they do not even mean anything, not to mention the phonetics which are way off.
10. shtrëngoj (squeeze, tighten, clench; Serb. struganje /shuffle, scraping, shave/, Serb. 'strogoća' strictness, stringency, Serb. 'strog' strict, imperative),
look moron, these are not even the same words.
11. helm (poison).
helm does not sound slavic.
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