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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2013 19:59:44 GMT -5
Did the two Albanian dialects develop before or after the Slavs arrived?
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Post by qej on Jan 10, 2013 20:41:48 GMT -5
Kosovo, Prishtina, **********, that's how my mind works all day
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2013 21:35:57 GMT -5
Did the two Albanian dialects develop before or after the Slavs arrived? What can be said with certainty is that the dialectal split occurred in the post-Roman first millennium. Since everything else about the chronology of Slav and Albanian settlement is extremely uncertain then it's very difficult to say whether the dialect split occurred before or after or during the Slav arrivals.
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Post by littleboyfatman on Jan 11, 2013 0:05:58 GMT -5
i believe... there was from begining difference in languages of illyrian tribes...
smaller tribes joined to 2 most widespreaded dialects... who probaly where also on beter positions economicly etc...
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Post by temujin1234 on Jan 11, 2013 6:06:09 GMT -5
I believe since early post-Roman times.
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Post by lokii on Jan 12, 2013 0:49:49 GMT -5
i believe... there was from begining difference in languages of illyrian tribes... smaller tribes joined to 2 most widespreaded dialects... who probaly where also on beter positions economicly etc... You believe ? ok fair enough, so what makes you believe ? is there something in a book you read or did you just make it up ?
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Post by littleboyfatman on Jan 12, 2013 1:47:48 GMT -5
i believe... there was from begining difference in languages of illyrian tribes... smaller tribes joined to 2 most widespreaded dialects... who probaly where also on beter positions economicly etc... You believe ? ok fair enough, so what makes you believe ? is there something in a book you read or did you just make it up ? i barely read books... books are mostly for people who wanna act smart.... you read many books?
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Post by lokii on Jan 12, 2013 2:16:50 GMT -5
Oh ok so you made it up then. Thnx ;D
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Post by RilindasPeja on Jan 12, 2013 16:39:44 GMT -5
I believe since early post-Roman times. Along the lines of splitting dialects, there is also a split in Christianity in those times, and a split between Roman and Byzantine Empires. Without doing very much research in our dialects, I tend to believe that it has to do with this north south/ Catholic Orthodox / Roman Byzantine split.
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Post by rex362 on Jan 12, 2013 19:03:38 GMT -5
yes ..I also agree ..maybe near the time of the Great Schism and the dividing line maybe being the road of ignatia ...
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Post by littleboyfatman on Jan 12, 2013 23:35:41 GMT -5
Oh ok so you made it up then. Thnx ;D so how manny books did you read?
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Post by littleboyfatman on Jan 12, 2013 23:38:46 GMT -5
i realy dont see why would there be language change... becouse of 2 different churces...
which probaly didnt last longer than 500 years... at it higest maybe 800 years...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2013 1:01:50 GMT -5
This is a serious question, what do you guys think about slavs inhabiting central and southern albania during the middle, do you think it correlates at all?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2013 2:01:38 GMT -5
This is a serious question, what do you guys think about slavs inhabiting central and southern albania during the middle, do you think it correlates at all? Yes, Slavs were all over northern Greece and southern Albania at some point. What are you trying to say?
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Post by RilindasPeja on Jan 13, 2013 2:26:41 GMT -5
i realy dont see why would there be language change... becouse of 2 different churces... which probaly didnt last longer than 500 years... at it higest maybe 800 years... Yea I would agree, but also these two sects of christianity were associated with two different regions of Arberia which were under the influence of two different empires as well. I'm not saying there was a significant difference between the two (considering Gjergj Kastrioti was a Roman Catholic when he married Donika in an Orthodox Monastery), but there was indeed a difference.
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Post by littleboyfatman on Jan 13, 2013 9:33:04 GMT -5
This is a serious question, what do you guys think about slavs inhabiting central and southern albania during the middle, do you think it correlates at all? what do you mean with inhabiting? if you mean by this do serbians inhabit america than yes... or if you mean do english inhabit arabia then yes also... but no further
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Post by littleboyfatman on Jan 13, 2013 9:35:33 GMT -5
i realy dont see why would there be language change... becouse of 2 different churces... which probaly didnt last longer than 500 years... at it higest maybe 800 years... Yea I would agree, but also these two sects of christianity were associated with two different regions of Arberia which were under the influence of two different empires as well. I'm not saying there was a significant difference between the two (considering Gjergj Kastrioti was a Roman Catholic when he married Donika in an Orthodox Monastery), but there was indeed a difference. there was difference in culture and afcourse to the songs singed in churches and the aposteles praised etc... but for me 500 years is just to short... for such differences... in language otherwise serbia would talk turkish... dialects...
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Post by qej on Jan 14, 2013 11:42:32 GMT -5
This is a serious question, what do you guys think about slavs inhabiting central and southern albania during the middle, do you think it correlates at all? I think that Korca is Bulgarian for one thing, if you need proof look at all the arranged marriages between Korca and Bulgaria
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Post by qej on Jan 14, 2013 11:43:46 GMT -5
i realy dont see why would there be language change... becouse of 2 different churces... which probaly didnt last longer than 500 years... at it higest maybe 800 years... Yea I would agree, but also these two sects of christianity were associated with two different regions of Arberia which were under the influence of two different empires as well. I'm not saying there was a significant difference between the two (considering Gjergj Kastrioti was a Roman Catholic when he married Donika in an Orthodox Monastery), but there was indeed a difference. lol I think I know who you are now
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Post by rex362 on Jan 14, 2013 12:08:55 GMT -5
we can all agree that the Gheg dialect was the oldest and Tosk being the newer dialect
as we can see in some Homeric words are more akin toward Gheg dialect more than tosk dialect
even some Arvaniti words are in Gheg dialect
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