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Post by Balkaneros on Apr 6, 2013 17:38:45 GMT -5
well I could of rewrote it in my own style ....I state where it came from In order - point by point How else can the country in 20 years start multiple wars and lose them all?Wrong. Serbia didn't start the wars and all sides lost - the least being Serbia when understanding their soveriengty compared to the others. How else can they get their countries infrastructure bombed into the stone age by the alliance that kept Europe safe during the cold war?Retarded observation. It was NATO who went against the UNSC and who broke about 100 International Laws. While still losing btw. How did they lose an obscene amount of their territory?Obscene amount of territory? oh he must mean Kosovo... this fight is still on btw. thats sad actually must be you (rex) or one of your followers... there's too many errors in that quote you posted to begin with. I've proven so on all counts ... TO YOU but as always and how your parents taught you.... just sing lalalaaa and all is graaavyy.
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Post by rex362 on Apr 6, 2013 17:43:01 GMT -5
yea .....Racak me all you want now
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Post by Balkaneros on Apr 8, 2013 8:27:08 GMT -5
The SNS presidency decided that the government should not sign the agreement which it has not even seen and certain parts of which do not take into account even the minimum of Serbia's national interests, the party's leader Aleksandar Vucic said, adding that the government should seek urgent resumption of dialog with Pristina. www.tanjug.rs/news/83149/vucic--govt-should-not-sign-dialog-should-continue.htm
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Post by rex362 on Apr 8, 2013 9:49:09 GMT -5
D-Day Tomorrow
Accept the reality .....
make the choice and live with it .....Waffler-Crybabies
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Post by Balkaneros on Apr 8, 2013 12:08:10 GMT -5
The scenario Serbia is in is exactly like a guy getting muscled by the mafia.
I just hope Serbia doesn't get into the EU whatever they decide tomorrow may not have relevance in the nearer future anyway. At this point, just recognize Kosovo and treat them as a hostile country, Serbia will have an obligation to intervene the moment the albs try to get to the north and at least the north would be back under Belgrade.
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Post by rex362 on Apr 8, 2013 12:42:01 GMT -5
now you know hot it feels .....
.......like when Albanians were muscled by mafiaserbia
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Post by Balkaneros on Apr 8, 2013 12:46:27 GMT -5
albs are the first to want to jump on the wagon what do you know about fighting for self? Mufti supports Serbian government on Kosovo BELGRADE -- Deputy Grand Mufti of the Islamic Community of Serbia and Mufti of Serbia Muhamed Jusufspahić has backed the Serbian government on the issue of Kosovo.This religious dignitary said on Monday that his support came as the government is making the difficult decisions that would have a long-lasting effect on the future of the country and its people. "This is a moment when we have to stick together and support each other," Jusufspahić said in a letter to the government, which should make its decision on Monday regarding the offer from Brussels to solve the Kosovo issue. "We come to you at this difficult time when important decisions have to be made, which will have a long-term effect on the future of our people and country as a whole. We, the Islamic Community of Serbia, the Muslims of Serbia, as part of the people and being from the people, feel this difficult time in every way while wishing our country all the best," he stated. "We have to be together and as one, be supportive of each other, because we all lose or win," he noted. "We pray to our creator, our God, the one and only, to bless us and our country Serbia, to protect us from evil and guide us in the right direction, to give our government the wisdom and strength to find the best solution," Jusufspahić wrote. www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2013&mm=04&dd=08&nav_id=85593CCCC
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Post by rex362 on Apr 8, 2013 12:49:30 GMT -5
go with russia then ......
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Post by Balkaneros on Apr 8, 2013 13:12:05 GMT -5
now you know hot it feels ..... .......like when Albanians were muscled by mafiaserbia lol great comparison, Serbs vs albs, you never had a chance. Serbia is up against 27 EU countries, the United States and NATO - NATO being the world's largest army which has the world biggest military budget.... and it's been like this for about 25 years and look at our state. Hundreds of years ahead of yours ps; You know what they say, bootlickers never get the respect.
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Post by Balkaneros on Apr 8, 2013 13:18:07 GMT -5
go with russia then ...... There's no going anywhere, Russia is already with us and it's all Serbia wants - their backing. Also this automatically implies that China holds the same stance. Serbia has a lot of support and this should be surprising since Serbia is a country that's been in isolation for how many years now rex ? I know you been counting. Dačić to meet with Putin, Medvedev on April 10 MOSCOW -- Prime Minister Ivica Dačić will confer with Russian President Vladimir Putin and Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev in Moscow on April 10.The Russian government's press service announced over the weekend that the Serbian prime minister and interior minister would visit Russia on April 9-11 at the invitation of the Russian Prime Minister, Itar-Tass reported. Medvedev and Dačić will consider the key issues of bilateral cooperation relating to trade, economy, energy, investments, humanitarian assistance, culture and other domains, the release reads, adding that after the talks, “several agreements and documents” will be signed between the governments, ministries and services. Putin's aide Yuri Ushakov announced that the Russian president would receive Dačić on April 10. The Kremlin official said that the visit had been agreed in early February, so it is not directly connected to the outcome of the Brussels talks on Kosovo. Ushakov said that the telephone conversation Serbian President Tomislav Nikolić and Putin had on April 2 was "to some extent linked to that (the negotiations)," said RIA Novosti. www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2013&mm=04&dd=08&nav_id=85587Day after "D-day". Looks like Dacic already knows what's going to happen and is planning accordingly.
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Post by Balkaneros on Apr 8, 2013 17:40:28 GMT -5
Serbia defies EU deadline to give Kosovo independenceSerbia rejected a European Union-brokered deal for reconciliation with its former province of Kosovo on Monday – a defiant move that could jeopardise its EU membership aspirations and fuel tensions in the Balkans. The EU had given Serbia until Tuesday to say whether it would relinquish its effective control over the northern region in exchange for the start of EU membership negotiations.Even before the government rejection, Aleksandar Vucic, the deputy prime minister and Serbia's most powerful governing party leader, said the plan was unacceptable because it did not give more autonomy to minority ethnic Serbs in Kosovo who, together with Serbia, reject Kosovo's 2008 declaration of independence. "The Serbian government cannot accept the proposed principles ... because they do not guarantee full security, survival and protection of human rights for the Serbs in Kosovo," said Ivica Dacic, the prime minister. "Such an agreement could not be implemented and would not lead to a lasting and sustainable solution." Catherine Ashton, the EU's top diplomat, said after the eighth round of talks between Serbian and Kosovan officials last week in Brussels that she wanted a response from both sides and that the bloc's mediation was over. Despite warnings that there will be no more EU-sponsored negotiations under Ashton's mediation, Vucic and the government called for more talks with rival ethnic Albanians in Kosovo. "If there is a negative answer [from the EU], that would be bad news for Serbia, Kosovo and the EU," Vucic said. "If that happens, we would have to start thinking of what to do next. "We don't want Serbia isolated from the world, but we have to protect our interests," he said. "It is highly important that we reach an agreement." The rejection of the proposal could be a severe blow for Serbia's EU membership aspirations – including millions of dollars of promised accession funds – and would lead to more tensions in the Balkans, which is still reeling from the bloody wars of the 1990s when Serbia tried to prevent the breakup of the former Yugoslav federation by force. While some 90 countries – including the United States and most EU nations – have recognised Kosovo's 2008 declaration of independence, it has been rejected by Serbia and its Slavic ally Russia. The most contentious issue in the talks was the status of northern Kosovo, where ethnic Serbs dominate and refuse to accept the authority of the ethnic Albanian-controlled government in Pristina. Germany has made giving up control of Kosovo's north the key condition for the start of Serbia's EU accession negotiations. The stumbling block in the talks was a Serbian demand that ethnic Serbs, who represent about 10% of Kosovo's 2 million people, have their own judiciary and police force. But Kosovo officials have rejected that, saying it would be tantamount to a division of Kosovo into two separate entities. In Serbia, there are increasing calls among nationalists that the country should turn to its ally Russia instead of becoming an EU member. There also are suggestions from the extremists that Serbia should use force to reoccupy Kosovo, which it surrendered after a three-month Nato bombing campaign that pushed out its troops in 1999. Vucic, a former ultranationalist turned moderate, said a military solution is out of the question. "I'm hearing some 'heroes' who were never brave who are giving us lessons on how we should stroll into Pristina," he said. "They should not tell us what our decisions should be." Several hundred far-right supporters demonstrated in front of the government headquarters in Belgrade during the cabinet session, demanding that no deal is signed with the EU and ethnic Albanians. www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/apr/08/serbia-eu-deadline-kosovo-independenceEU's Ashton reacts to Serbian decisionBRUSSELS -- Catherine Ashton issued a statement on Monday in the wake of the Serbian government's decision to reject a prooosal put forward in the Kosovo talks."Over the past six months I have met Prime Minister Dačić and Prime Minister Thaci eight times, sometimes in sessions that lasted more than thirteen hours," the statement reads, and adds: "At the beginning we set ourselves a clear timeframe, so that the dialogue would stay focused and take into account the European Council's desire that Serbia and Kosovo move forward by the summer. I pay tribute to the two prime ministers and their teams for their hard work." "After several rounds of discussions I believe that all the elements for an agreement on northern Kosovo are on the table. This needs to be an agreement between the two sides, it is not for the European Union to impose it. I regret the decision of the Serbian government to reject the proposals and call on them to make a last effort to reach an agreement, for the benefit of their people," the EU foreign policy chief's statement said. "I believe in a bright future for Serbia and Kosovo and I know that, however difficult the process has been, it unlocked the potential for people - especially in northern Kosovo - to have a better life. I hope that Kosovo and Serbia will not miss the opportunity to put the past behind them and move forward into the future. I hope I will be leading the discussion in the EU over the next few days in support of a real step forward by both Serbia and Kosovo towards their European future," the EU official concluded in her statement. www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2013&mm=04&dd=08&nav_id=85597wow she is dumb.
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Post by rex362 on Apr 8, 2013 17:44:33 GMT -5
now Daci is talking the exchange of northern for the Valley (Presehva)
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Post by Balkaneros on Apr 8, 2013 18:13:39 GMT -5
^ what? anyways.... Belgrade and Pristina - No CompromiseNegotiations between Belgrade and Pristina on the normalization of the relations were unsuccessful. Serbia insisted on broad autonomy of the Serbian communities with their own executive branch, courts, and police. Hashim Thaci rejected the idea. The Serbian leadership is on the verge of a legal rejection of the territorial integrity of the country for the sake of getting a date for the start of negotiations on the EU membership. Ivica Dacic and Hashim Thaci ,Prime Ministers of Serbia and partially recognized Republic of Kosovo, held talks in Brussels with the mediation of Catherine Ashton, the EU High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy. Even 13 hours of serious continuous negotiations of the eighth round did not result in a compromise. Ashton said that her role as a mediator was over, which means that the date of the beginning of the accession negotiations of Serbia to the EU will be postponed for one year. Belgrade failed to fulfill its main condition - "normalize relations" with Kosovo. According to Serbia, the autonomous province of Kosovo and Metohija (partially recognized Republic of Kosovo), where the north is home to about 130,000 Serbs, is a part of Serbia under the protection of the UN. This position is consistent with UN Security Council Resolution 1244 of 1999, the only document to date dealing with the legal status of Kosovo.In fact, the Serb-populated areas (community Kosovska Mitrovica - north of the Ibar River, Leposavic, Zvecan and Zubin Potok) are actually controlled from Belgrade that funds local authorities. However, in denying the independence of Kosovo and Metohija, Belgrade has been losing its positions one after another, approaching the implementation of the illegitimate Ahtisaari plan. Does it seem absurd to demand creation of autonomy within the autonomy? No, it does not, if we consider that subconsciously the Serbian leadership has accepted the independence of the region, and has to only find a way to explain this to its people without losing face. Pristina understands it very well, and sticks to the position of the territorial integrity of the country in accordance with its Constitution. Thaci will never agree to the creation of the so-called "Association of Serbian communities" in Northern Kosovo, which will be the basis for the subsequent separation. He agreed to autonomy, but after the dissolution of "parallel structures of power" in north Kosovo and the signing of a peace treaty, in which Serbia would apologize for all the crimes of the 1990s and agree to pay reparations. Deputy Director for the Office for Kosovo and Metohija Krstimir Pantic told B92 TV channel that the failure in Brussels was the expected outcome, because Pristina was not ready to compromise, and the EU and the U.S. did not want to pressure it. Another Serbian official, Director of the Office of the Media Relations Milivoje Mihajlovic also blames the EU and the U.S. He stated that they would be responsible for the failure of the dialogue. He said that he talked to other journalists, Albanians from Kosovo. Most of them told him that they would have given in, but they are not allowed to do so by the Americans. Indeed, the meeting in Brussels, as well as all others, in direct contact with Washington was attended by Philip Reeker, a U.S. diplomat in charge of the Western Balkans in the State Department. The State Department Rules of Conduct in the Balkans were presented by the American politician James George Jatras, head of the American Council for Kosovo. First, all claims and interests of the Serbs always have to be nulled, and second, the Muslims are always right and their claims and interests in any case will be given the green light. In practice, this translates into an unspoken rule - refusal of further partitioning of Kosovo. This is understandable, because it is very dangerous to develop Kosovo's model of statehood decay any further. Kosovo Serbs are against the compromise (on the recognition of autonomy in the autonomy) favored by Belgrade. They are demanding the return of the negotiation process under the UN framework, respect for Resolution 1244, and think about the Serbs who live in enclaves in other parts of Kosovo. They declare that they will refuse to carry out an agreement between Belgrade and Pristina if their interests are not considered. This is the approach encouraged by Russia. Serbia forgot about its ally Russia, and is acting against the agreement with this country. "The format of negotiations between Belgrade and Pristina was agreed upon by the previous government of Serbia and the European Union got the role of the mediator, with which we (Russia) agreed. Then the EU has decided to involve the U.S. representative (Philip Ricker) as an observer, while we have not been asked to join, so Serbia found itself in a very unfavorable and uncomfortable situation," said the Russian Ambassador to Serbia Alexander Chepurin in an interview with TV channel "Most." The Ambassador emphasized that the results of such negotiations format would not be great. "Clearly, key player is the UN Security Council, and so far Resolution 1244 is one of the most important documents that has not lost its power, no matter what they say. This decision of the Security Council that the self-proclaimed state of Kosovo is not a UN member, that it has not been yet recognized, depends on the permanent members of the Security Council," said the Ambassador. However, the Serbian leadership in the pursuit of an illusory dream of being accepted into the EU is on the verge of changing the Constitution. Why is it illusory? Because Serbia is considered under different rules (Cyprus was admitted to the EU without settlement of its relations with Turkey in the north). When it gives up the Kosovo Serbs, and thus Resolution 1244, another reason for ignoring it will be proposed, for example, position of the Albanian enclave Presevo Valley on its territory. The Serbian government explains its position by saying that becoming a member of the EU, the country will receive financial assistance and the right of access to new technologies, which would have a great impact on the economic situation in the country. They say that today unemployment in some areas reaches 26 percent and that the economy is in recession (2 percent in 2012), that there is budget deficit and low per capita income. But the EU, represented by Germany, works with the countries like Serbia on the principle of colonial exploitation. A striking example is Slovenia that was one of the most developed republics of Yugoslavia, and is now a peripheral economy with the indicators of Greece, Portugal and Spain. Hopes for the economic power of the EU are another illusion of the Serbian leadership. english.pravda.ru/hotspots/conflicts/07-04-2013/124220-belgrade_pristina-0/"He said that he talked to other journalists, Albanians from Kosovo. Most of them told him that they would have given in, but they are not allowed to do so by the Americans. Indeed, the meeting in Brussels, as well as all others, in direct contact with Washington was attended by Philip Reeker, a U.S. diplomat in charge of the Western Balkans in the State Department." ^^^^^^^^^^Proof of your colonial status^^^^^^^^^^
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Post by rex362 on Apr 8, 2013 18:38:40 GMT -5
SEEMS ITS OFFICIAL ........ serbia refuses peace and thrives on controversial misery Govt. officially rejects proposed Kosovo deal Source: B92, Beta BELGRADE -- The Serbian government met on Monday afternoon in Belgrade to officially reject the principles the EU proposed for an agreement with Priština.
Unusually, reporters were allowed to attend the session today during which the cabinet of Prime Minister Ivica Dačić concluded that the offered solutions, "which have been communicated verbally to our team", could not be accepted. The said solutions "would not guarantee the human rights, survival and security to Serbs in Kosovo", it has been announced.
"Such an agreement would not be implementable and would not lead to a final and sustainable solution," Dačić stated.
The government also reaffirmed its commitment to finding a permanent solution by peaceful means, through dialogue, that will be a firm foundation for building a lasting peace.
The prime minister has been authorized to inform the EU of his cabinet's decision, reached unanimously.
Journalists were also told that the government was in favor of the urgent resumption of the dialogue with Priština, with EU mediation, in order to find the solutions for the contentious issues related to Kosovo and Metohija as soon as possible. EU's Ashton reacts to Serbian decision Source: B92 BRUSSELS -- Catherine Ashton issued a statement on Monday in the wake of the Serbian government's decision to reject a prooosal put forward in the Kosovo talks.
"Over the past six months I have met Prime Minister Dačić and Prime Minister Thaci eight times, sometimes in sessions that lasted more than thirteen hours," the statement reads, and adds: "At the beginning we set ourselves a clear timeframe, so that the dialogue would stay focused and take into account the European Council's desire that Serbia and Kosovo move forward by the summer. I pay tribute to the two prime ministers and their teams for their hard work."
"After several rounds of discussions I believe that all the elements for an agreement on northern Kosovo are on the table. This needs to be an agreement between the two sides, it is not for the European Union to impose it. I regret the decision of the Serbian government to reject the proposals and call on them to make a last effort to reach an agreement, for the benefit of their people," the EU foreign policy chief's statement said.
"I believe in a bright future for Serbia and Kosovo and I know that, however difficult the process has been, it unlocked the potential for people - especially in northern Kosovo - to have a better life. I hope that Kosovo and Serbia will not miss the opportunity to put the past behind them and move forward into the future. I hope I will be leading the discussion in the EU over the next few days in support of a real step forward by both Serbia and Kosovo towards their European future," the EU official concluded in her statement.
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Post by Balkaneros on Apr 9, 2013 16:49:13 GMT -5
China strongly supports Serbia in all state priorities including the preservation of the territorial integrity, Vuk Jeremić has said.
Serbia's former foreign minister, now UN General Assembly president, also stated that this support extended to "the readiness to foster the two countries' economic and cultural cooperation." = He said that China has confirmed its participation in the debate on the international criminal justice scheduled for April 10 in the United Nations. www.b92.net/eng/news/comments.php?nav_id=85604
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Post by rex362 on Apr 9, 2013 17:15:52 GMT -5
china russia .....all the countries that support you have same dilemma of losing land they have stolen
..................................... Crazy man killing family and neighbors.......sad mental case there ....
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Post by Balkaneros on Apr 9, 2013 17:34:59 GMT -5
china russia .....all the countries that support you have same dilemma of losing land they have stolen China will always back Serbia's fight against the empire Serbs have gained much respect among the Chinese.
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Post by rex362 on Apr 10, 2013 8:18:55 GMT -5
I guess its over .....mo more discussion needed here with russia's shoe shine people | April 10, 2013 | 11:25 PMs urge stronger ties between Russia and Serbia Source: Tanjug MOSCOW -- Serbia is a privileged and special partner, Russian PM Dmitry Medvedev said at the start of a meeting with his Serbian counterpart Ivica Dačić on Wednesday.
Ivica Dačić and Dmitry Medvedev (Tanjug) “True friends should not only exchange letters but they should meet as well,” Medvedev added.
He stressed that the two countries’ traditional friendship should be modern and that partnership should be efficient.
Dačić thanked Medvedev for a series of agreements that will be signed at the end of the meeting, and especially pointed out an agreement approving a loan to Serbia to boost its budget.
He told his Russian counterpart that things that had so far been done in the energy cooperation, such as Oil Industry of Serbia (NIS) development and preparations for the construction of South Stream gas pipeline in Serbia had a positive effect on Serbia’s economy.
The Serbian PM also advocated further strengthening of bilateral relations, adding that there was potential for development of cooperation in all areas.
Serbian and Russian ministers are also attending the meeting.
Several agreements, including the one on Serbia’s loan, mutual recognition of diplomas, customs cooperation and exchange of statistical data, will be signed later today.
Dačić will then meet with Russia’s President Vladimir Putin and Defense Minister Sergey Shoygu, the Serbian government’s Media Office has released.
On Thursday, Dačić will meet with VTB Bank First Deputy President and Board of Directors Chairman Vasily Titov.
Putin's assistant Yuri Ushakov said the visit was arranged in early February and is not directly tied to the results of the Kosovo talks in Brussels.
Dačić is heading the Serbian government delegation composed of Deputy Prime Minister and Labor, Employment and Social Policy Minister Jovan Krkobabić, Finance and Economy Minister Mlađan Dinkić, Agriculture, Forestry and Water Management Minister Goran Knežević and Natural Resources, Mining and Spatial Planning Minister Milan Bačević.
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Post by Balkaneros on Apr 10, 2013 13:49:52 GMT -5
what shoe shinning rex? ... it's Russia that is doing us a favor not the other way around.
And it's not even a favor - this is only expected through Slavic Unity.
You need to understand something; the anti-imperialist bloc will always be on Serbia's side, it's always been like this.
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Post by rex362 on Apr 10, 2013 14:18:41 GMT -5
what shoe shinning rex? ... it's Russia that is doing us a favor not the other way around. And it's not even a favor - this is only expected through Slavic Unity. You need to understand something; the anti-imperialist bloc will always be on Serbia's side, it's always been like this. oh jeeeez ....more epic poems .... you serbs always seem to turn a defeat into some kind of heroic win ....like the Battle of Kosova epic poems syndrome A'La-Extravaganza
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