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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Sept 17, 2014 22:02:01 GMT -5
New Russia (Novo Rossya) is in a Donbas region which is workers region really and it is clearly socialist in nature on many levels while even Peoples Republic is in the fashion of the socialist states tradition. Putin on the other hand (together with many other oligarchs of Russia) do not appear to have anything socialist about them. On contrary. Putin is among the most richest men alive according to some sources whereas capitalism in Russia certainly appears to live in kicking. What are your thoughts? link
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 18, 2014 3:48:38 GMT -5
New Russia (Novo Rossya) is in a Donbas region which is workers region really and it is clearly socialist in nature on many levels while even Peoples Republic is in the fashion of the socialist states tradition. Putin on the other hand (together with many other oligarchs of Russia) do not appear to have anything socialist about them. On contrary. Putin is among the most richest men alive according to some sources whereas capitalism in Russia certainly appears to live in kicking. What are your thoughts? linkGlad you brought this up. I don't take as animosity, in fact we should do our best to hide any real tensions inside Slavic circles, or the saxon-jewish ravens will come in no time for some fresh juicy delicious Slavic blood. Now the article has many errors which reveal its "leftist" saxon-jewish control centers, and just by clicking on the link, there is nothing more to see: - Putin *is not* an oligarch by any means. Even if the western figure of 20M USD is real (which i doubt), then it is still peanuts, (but scandalous nevertheless, at least by eastern/balkan standards). - Putin has NOT carried any severe repression against any communist or worker. This is BS. In Russia is the country where you have the biggest chance of seeing waiving flags with the symbols of СССР. You cant accuse Putin of anti-communism when the NATO fascists in the baltics are oppressing Russians and Poles and have banned the socialist party. Has Putin banned any Socialist party? No. So, those jewish-american "leftists" who run the site are clearly on agenda. However, the article, even accidentally, strikes a nerve. Russia as is, has no ideological tools to move the masses, outside its borders. The movement in Donbass, is truly an epic battle of Ancient Slavic heroism against repression, and it is true that those people feel alone and isolated from Russia, much like the Bosnian Serbs felt betrayed by Belgrade and Slobo back in 1994-1995. The Bosnian Serbs, although ultra heroic, proved to small to fight the beast alone. The same i believe about the people of Novorossiya. Slavs will not survive unless something much bigger happens. Now the question is. If the people in Donbas start to get "socialist" momentum, who is gonna be there first to collect the fruits ? To sell this as its own and control this? USA international jewish leftists or RUSSIA? My guess is the latter, although it will take a complete revolution inside Russia. But if this happens, in simple words, Slavs will have a future window of at least 50 years to breath air and drink water, or just live. If this does not happen, or if it happens in the wrong (jewish-saxon) way, Slavs are screwed already.
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Post by Jon Do on Sept 18, 2014 18:44:19 GMT -5
Tread lightly around Putin. He knows the masses very well. He knows what trigger words will get what reaction. He is trained to be the master of deception make no mistake about it.
I think his role is to cuddle with the unavoidable nationalist trend happening in Europe, a movement that is totally unavoidable. Putin has a lot of support in the West among the citizens, from America to Germany and France. His position on traditional values has kicked up a stir and he's getting cheers for standing up against Marxist ideals ie; banning swear words and porn on TV, banning LGBT propaganda and gay parades, rebuilding and restoring monasteries and churches across the country, and demanding that the Constitution of Russia remains, and puts emphasis on ethnic Russians being its' main citizens. Yet, the time hasn't come yet where and when he'll have to make the hard choice of either exposing himself as an NWO-agent, or as their enemy. Something will have to give and sooner or later this will be made clear.
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Sept 18, 2014 21:54:22 GMT -5
It was pleasure reading input from both Vatra and Uz although my views would be closer to that of Uz.
I do not see politics in black and white specter. I would say its mostly gray. Tread lightly around Putin is something I would agree with as well.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 19, 2014 3:33:55 GMT -5
problem is that most of true anti-west socialists put all their hopes in (novo)Russia/(Putin?) (ok smth Russian in the broader sense) for a change, and at the same time most of far-right euro-american traditionalists also put all their hopes in Putin. That's a royal contradiction, since we all know that those far right westerners , dump as a vegetable, would turn against Slavs just as easily and start to make holy wars in the east. The only angle not hurting Slavs, in which NATIONALISM and SOCIALISM can be put together is simply blend socialism *WITH* orthodoxy and Christianity, something that was very apparent in any of the recent demonstrations in pro-Russian parts of Ukraine and in Russia as well, and smth Uncle Pyrros has been advocating for ages before. He is trained to be the master of deception make no mistake about it. Yet, the time hasn't come yet where and when he'll have to make the hard choice of either exposing himself as an NWO-agent, or as their enemy. Something will have to give and sooner or later this will be made clear. This is what i mean when i say that Saxons know how to win the game at the end of the day. Whatever the view or perspective is, there will always be more room for Russian demonization in every possible form and packaging. Look closely at Uz's words and you'll see that Putin is so pretty much corned that he will have to be ultra smart and flexible to not fall into some of the known demonization canals. Result is of course, more dead Russians/Slavs/Ukrainians and weaker Slavic existence. We are so much brainwashed that we do not allow ourselves to go out there and scream : ZIVJELA RUSIJA! ZIVJELA SRBIJA! ΖΗΤΩ Η ΟΡΘΟΔΟΞΙΑ! I have seen that in myself. Whenever i get to be in some meeting with more than zero people admiring Serbia/Russia, etc... immediately i know smth is outside the norms, smth is fishy, and unconsciously without being able to control it, i start ... trying to neutralize the convo, even by bringing bad experiences from Serbia, or by raising standards and expectations thus finding a way to somehow accuse Serbia. All that happens in the background functions of the brain. Pro-slavs move and behave like hunted antelopes, always hiding, or always finding unbelievable excuses to blame their own. I dont know if this is severe inherent Slavic defect, or is smth that Germano-Saxono-Jews have been working on for ever. If we notice ourselves, we just sit comfortably in our chairs and wait for Putin to either fail or succeed, like he is a man of mythical power and like we have nothing to do with Russia. This is exactly how the Saxons portray him and how the Saxons want us to react. PASSIVELY. Or rather a coctail of giving him supernatural strengths combined with demonization and maybe humiliation in certain doses. A well tested recipe in many occasions. In the meantime, the SLAVs of NEW RUSSIA are being slaughtered by 1000s in the hands of the westerns deamons, while we are waiting in our comfortable chairs to see if Putin is a NWO-commie, an NWO-rabbi, or just an NWO-oligarch.
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Post by Jon Do on Sept 19, 2014 12:50:01 GMT -5
Slavs attack their weak links, something you or any other shiptar couldn't understand.
And by attacking your weak links you're doing the opposite of hiding.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 19, 2014 23:49:35 GMT -5
Slavs attack their weak links, something you or any other shiptar couldn't understand. And by attacking your weak links you're doing the opposite of hiding. You little hypocrite, i had been advocating CRETE and CYPRUS in the greek domain for those very reasons, for ages... dont try to give lectures on that. Its getting comical. And more important dont f**king deviate the convo to suit your agenda. Getting back to slavs so you are saying that the STRONG western parts of Ukraine (10m ppl in total, with no industry, no achievement besides wearing SS insignia and making chocolates that nobody buys) are attacking the weak links in the east of Ukraine and Russia (160m ppl with huge industrial and cultural past). And that's why those SS-type ones are vocal while the weak ones are hiding SURREAL! Now, if you feel so brave, go out waiving the Russian - Serbian - Bulgarian flag out there in Toronto (or whatever s**thole in Canada where you live). You will be arrested and put in the cell with other immigrants like you. PS sad truth, little grandson of the albanian with minimal Serbian bloodline, is that pro-Slavs today are prosecuted in a much bigger scale than christians during communism. PS2 the fact that you didn't even touch the surface of the point i made above, the very essence to my answer to your post, just shows what a simpleton imbecile you are. In the meanwhile, i am noticing, You almost had started to speak like a human, like a Serb, and also behaving, till Barbie the hun showed up. That was it. Cindy's love for Barbie could not be held hostage of good Serbian manners any longer. The hun-german-albanian had to come out of Cindy and meet her other hun half barbie. Uz... you are so so weak and vunerable. Basically you are the weak link in Serbs. Any german-c**k-loving pseudo-Slav, like you or the germano-khazars in western ukraine should be cleansed out of Slavic ranks.
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Post by aussie75 on Sept 20, 2014 6:55:39 GMT -5
problem is that most of true anti-west socialists put all their hopes in (novo)Russia/(Putin?) (ok smth Russian in the broader sense) for a change, and at the same time most of far-right euro-american traditionalists also put all their hopes in Putin. That's a royal contradiction, since we all know that those far right westerners , dump as a vegetable, would turn against Slavs just as easily and start to make holy wars in the east. The only angle not hurting Slavs, in which NATIONALISM and SOCIALISM can be put together is simply blend socialism *WITH* orthodoxy and Christianity, something that was very apparent in any of the recent demonstrations in pro-Russian parts of Ukraine and in Russia as well, and smth Uncle Pyrros has been advocating for ages before. He is trained to be the master of deception make no mistake about it. Yet, the time hasn't come yet where and when he'll have to make the hard choice of either exposing himself as an NWO-agent, or as their enemy. Something will have to give and sooner or later this will be made clear. This is what i mean when i say that Saxons know how to win the game at the end of the day. Whatever the view or perspective is, there will always be more room for Russian demonization in every possible form and packaging. Look closely at Uz's words and you'll see that Putin is so pretty much corned that he will have to be ultra smart and flexible to not fall into some of the known demonization canals. Result is of course, more dead Russians/Slavs/Ukrainians and weaker Slavic existence. We are so much brainwashed that we do not allow ourselves to go out there and scream : ZIVJELA RUSIJA! ZIVJELA SRBIJA! ΖΗΤΩ Η ΟΡΘΟΔΟΞΙΑ! I have seen that in myself. Whenever i get to be in some meeting with more than zero people admiring Serbia/Russia, etc... immediately i know smth is outside the norms, smth is fishy, and unconsciously without being able to control it, i start ... trying to neutralize the convo, even by bringing bad experiences from Serbia, or by raising standards and expectations thus finding a way to somehow accuse Serbia. All that happens in the background functions of the brain. Pro-slavs move and behave like hunted antelopes, always hiding, or always finding unbelievable excuses to blame their own. I dont know if this is severe inherent Slavic defect, or is smth that Germano-Saxono-Jews have been working on for ever. If we notice ourselves, we just sit comfortably in our chairs and wait for Putin to either fail or succeed, like he is a man of mythical power and like we have nothing to do with Russia. This is exactly how the Saxons portray him and how the Saxons want us to react. PASSIVELY. Or rather a coctail of giving him supernatural strengths combined with demonization and maybe humiliation in certain doses. A well tested recipe in many occasions. In the meantime, the SLAVs of NEW RUSSIA are being slaughtered by 1000s in the hands of the westerns deamons, while we are waiting in our comfortable chairs to see if Putin is a NWO-commie, an NWO-rabbi, or just an NWO-oligarch. Brate, simply, Slavs are demoralised and embarrassed; as I told you, look at Serbs: some Serbs from Montenegro for instance shy away from proudly calling themselves Serbs.....we both know this new Montenegrin nationality is the work of Vatican and to create a separate Montenegrin Church to eventually Catholicise them.....Balkan Orthodoxy is an eyesore, especially at its door step!
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Post by Jon Do on Sept 20, 2014 12:22:51 GMT -5
Slavs attack their weak links, something you or any other shiptar couldn't understand. And by attacking your weak links you're doing the opposite of hiding. You little hypocrite, i had been advocating CRETE and CYPRUS in the greek domain for those very reasons, for ages... dont try to give lectures on that. Its getting comical. And more important dont f**king deviate the convo to suit your agenda. You criticized Slavs for blaming their own, I corrected you in saying it's not blaming but rather placing responsibility. Only a useless shit would put as much effort as you in trying to blame others while preferring to wave the victim flag, a lazy cunt who has set his standards low. Someone who strives to get better targets the areas where he is weak. The same works with nations. Todays Nations of Europe have survived ONLY because they stemmed out their weakest links while promoting advancement among the most capable, raising the bar, so even the inferior have a chance to go above and beyond. Countless of nations in Europe have died out, melted away and disappeared because their focus wasn't where it should have been. How else can we keep the species strong, by giving guys like you "equal" rights? hahahahaha Guys who couldn't give a shit for the further improvement of their community, people and country? You're a traitor, you openly embrace this position while trying leap a thousand miles ahead of yourself talking about Slavs/Serbs. Turns out you know fuck all. You're the guy preaching about wanting to be Captain but when the shit hits the fan you're first to jump ship.
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Post by Jon Do on Sept 20, 2014 12:31:37 GMT -5
problem is that most of true anti-west socialists put all their hopes in (novo)Russia/(Putin?) (ok smth Russian in the broader sense) for a change, and at the same time most of far-right euro-american traditionalists also put all their hopes in Putin. That's a royal contradiction, since we all know that those far right westerners , dump as a vegetable, would turn against Slavs just as easily and start to make holy wars in the east. The only angle not hurting Slavs, in which NATIONALISM and SOCIALISM can be put together is simply blend socialism *WITH* orthodoxy and Christianity, something that was very apparent in any of the recent demonstrations in pro-Russian parts of Ukraine and in Russia as well, and smth Uncle Pyrros has been advocating for ages before. This is what i mean when i say that Saxons know how to win the game at the end of the day. Whatever the view or perspective is, there will always be more room for Russian demonization in every possible form and packaging. Look closely at Uz's words and you'll see that Putin is so pretty much corned that he will have to be ultra smart and flexible to not fall into some of the known demonization canals. Result is of course, more dead Russians/Slavs/Ukrainians and weaker Slavic existence. We are so much brainwashed that we do not allow ourselves to go out there and scream : ZIVJELA RUSIJA! ZIVJELA SRBIJA! ΖΗΤΩ Η ΟΡΘΟΔΟΞΙΑ! I have seen that in myself. Whenever i get to be in some meeting with more than zero people admiring Serbia/Russia, etc... immediately i know smth is outside the norms, smth is fishy, and unconsciously without being able to control it, i start ... trying to neutralize the convo, even by bringing bad experiences from Serbia, or by raising standards and expectations thus finding a way to somehow accuse Serbia. All that happens in the background functions of the brain. Pro-slavs move and behave like hunted antelopes, always hiding, or always finding unbelievable excuses to blame their own. I dont know if this is severe inherent Slavic defect, or is smth that Germano-Saxono-Jews have been working on for ever. If we notice ourselves, we just sit comfortably in our chairs and wait for Putin to either fail or succeed, like he is a man of mythical power and like we have nothing to do with Russia. This is exactly how the Saxons portray him and how the Saxons want us to react. PASSIVELY. Or rather a coctail of giving him supernatural strengths combined with demonization and maybe humiliation in certain doses. A well tested recipe in many occasions. In the meantime, the SLAVs of NEW RUSSIA are being slaughtered by 1000s in the hands of the westerns deamons, while we are waiting in our comfortable chairs to see if Putin is a NWO-commie, an NWO-rabbi, or just an NWO-oligarch. Brate, simply, Slavs are demoralised and embarrassed; as I told you, look at Serbs: some Serbs from Montenegro for instance shy away from proudly calling themselves Serbs.....we both know this new Montenegrin nationality is the work of Vatican and to create a separate Montenegrin Church to eventually Catholicise them.....Balkan Orthodoxy is an eyesore, especially at its door step! You want to talk about de-moralized and embarrassed, look no further than Germany and Germans today. They turned into Europe's biggest pussy country, up there with Sweden and France. Propaganda is so heavy there it almost seems too late to do anything about it, ethnic Europeans can barely breath there. What you say about Slavs being de-moralized is absolutely correct, but this is all of Europe, and quite frankly Serbs aren't doing that bad, except economics is where they're getting nailed, this is how you handicap potential. Economically the West of Europe is more stable but they're getting nailed and humiliated culturally.
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Post by aussie75 on Sept 20, 2014 20:49:50 GMT -5
^ Sure, I agree, this is in modern times where Germans have no say in their own losses as do Serbs 50 - 60 years later! I was more insinuating the animosities between Serbian Orthodox and Vatican, this is not of recent, this practically begins at the schism! Most of Serbian history has been fabricated by the Vatican and later picked up by the Nordic School.
PS Serbs did defeat Turks in 1389; Vatican ruling elite were disgusted by the 'outcome' they wrote of Serbia losing it! One must think why would the victor flee and have a Sultan killed? This falsification was later adopted by the Nordic School and other Europeans because of their religious link to the Vatican!
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 21, 2014 0:26:08 GMT -5
^ Sure, I agree, this is in modern times where Germans have no say in their own losses as do Serbs 50 - 60 years later! I was more insinuating the animosities between Serbian Orthodox and Vatican, this is not of recent, this practically begins at the schism! Most of Serbian history has been fabricated by the Vatican and later picked up by the Nordic School. PS Serbs did defeat Turks in 1389; Vatican ruling elite were disgusted by the 'outcome' they wrote of Serbia losing it! One must think why would the victor flee and have a Sultan killed? This falsification was later adopted by the Nordic School and other Europeans because of their religious link to the Vatican! Seems like a classic Germanic/Saxon method. If they don't like reality, they try to stretch it to fit their wish and they repeat it till their face gets blue.
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Post by Jon Do on Sept 21, 2014 9:11:44 GMT -5
"if they don't like their reality they try to stretch it to fit their wish" what the hell does that even mean you junkie.
Yes I know, the Vatican is against Serbian traditions but what makes you think this is a war solely against Serbs? You don't think every other nation that succumbed to Catholicism didn't suffer the same fate and worse? Of course they did. They tried to melt them all into one by replacing old ways with new ways, that's why their power is centralized.
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Post by Babylon Enigma on Sept 24, 2014 20:40:50 GMT -5
New Russia (Novo Rossya) is in a Donbas region which is workers region really and it is clearly socialist in nature on many levels while even Peoples Republic is in the fashion of the socialist states tradition. Putin on the other hand (together with many other oligarchs of Russia) do not appear to have anything socialist about them. On contrary. Putin is among the most richest men alive according to some sources whereas capitalism in Russia certainly appears to live in kicking. What are your thoughts? linkGlad you brought this up. I don't take as animosity, in fact we should do our best to hide any real tensions inside Slavic circles, or the saxon-jewish ravens will come in no time for some fresh juicy delicious Slavic blood.
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Post by aussie75 on Sept 25, 2014 10:12:25 GMT -5
"if they don't like their reality they try to stretch it to fit their wish" what the hell does that even mean you junkie. Yes I know, the Vatican is against Serbian traditions but what makes you think this is a war solely against Serbs? You don't think every other nation that succumbed to Catholicism didn't suffer the same fate and worse? Of course they did. They tried to melt them all into one by replacing old ways with new ways, that's why their power is centralized. They are against Serbian traditions but also of their 'history'. Yes in the broader spectrum, the Vatican clearly has issues with, not only Serbs, but the orthodox Slavs! Once the nation or people fell to Catholicism, practically the war ended! For orthodox Slavs it continues to this day. To be fair, let's throw in other factors like Jews and their banks; opportunistic westerners like Saxons and Germanics; but Saxons and their imperialism!
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Sept 25, 2014 10:38:25 GMT -5
I deleted some childish insulting adolescent replies.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 25, 2014 12:43:27 GMT -5
I deleted some childish insulting adolescent replies. I see Barby's and Cindy's profiles are left intact..... Good job once again. The anti-SLAVs can run wild, no problem, while the pro-Slavs are censored... BTW, still anticipating your input on the XA (in anglophone : GD) thread. PS I also await for you to edit Cindy and Barbie. Cindy called me a junky. If you don't think this is appropriate, pls do the right thing and edit those lines. PS i am rather old to go through another marathon with you here. I think we've been there before, though not much have changed, i guess. No need for a new round.
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Sept 25, 2014 13:29:39 GMT -5
I deleted some childish insulting adolescent replies. I see Barby's and Cindy's profiles are left intact..... Good job once again. The anti-SLAVs can run wild, no problem, while the pro-Slavs are censored... BTW, still anticipating your input on the XA (in anglophone : GD) thread. PS I also await for you to edit Cindy and Barbie. Cindy called me a junky. If you don't think this is appropriate, pls do the right thing and edit those lines. PS i am rather old to go through another marathon with you here. I think we've been there before, though not much have changed, i guess. No need for a new round. To Vatra: Regarding your behavior, tag and other topics
Read more: illyria.proboards.com/thread/37684/#ixzz3ELyjhyxS
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Post by Jon Do on Sept 25, 2014 20:15:30 GMT -5
"if they don't like their reality they try to stretch it to fit their wish" what the hell does that even mean you junkie. Yes I know, the Vatican is against Serbian traditions but what makes you think this is a war solely against Serbs? You don't think every other nation that succumbed to Catholicism didn't suffer the same fate and worse? Of course they did. They tried to melt them all into one by replacing old ways with new ways, that's why their power is centralized. They are against Serbian traditions but also of their 'history'. Yes in the broader spectrum, the Vatican clearly has issues with, not only Serbs, but the orthodox Slavs! Once the nation or people fell to Catholicism, practically the war ended! For orthodox Slavs it continues to this day. To be fair, let's throw in other factors like Jews and their banks; opportunistic westerners like Saxons and Germanics; but Saxons and their imperialism! My point is precisely the opposite, go figure. The war did not end, where and how did the war end. Catholic Europe is falling apart more and more and it's happening fast. Catholicism (and not so ironically) is actually perpetuating this to further continue. How does this make you feel and pay attention. Dying to get to Europe: nearly 450,000 asylum seekers a year make their way to EU www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20140924/world/Pope-urges-moreglobal-cooperationon-migration-crisis.537024The ancient fathers of Europe lived and died to defend our borders from these exact people, to prevent them from doing exactly what they're doing now.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Sept 26, 2014 3:18:23 GMT -5
My point is precisely the opposite, go figure. The war did not end, where and how did the war end. Catholic Europe is falling apart more and more and it's happening fast. Catholicism (and not so ironically) is actually perpetuating this to further continue. How does this make you feel and pay attention. Dying to get to Europe: nearly 450,000 asylum seekers a year make their way to EU www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20140924/world/Pope-urges-moreglobal-cooperationon-migration-crisis.537024The ancient fathers of Europe lived and died to defend our borders from these exact people, to prevent them from doing exactly what they're doing now. You gotta step back for a second and see how wrong you are, how much you are distant from reality every day. So we got 450,000 asylum seekers in EU. What does it mean? It means that Europe is dying? Or does it mean that the countries of those 0.5M ppl just fell apart, mainly because of western sanctions , bombings, occupation, wars? How many of them are Kurds? How many of them are SYRIANS? Libians? HOW MANY SERBS and YUGOSLAVS LEFT YUGOSLAVIA AFTER 1991? Just answer this. The solution is not to kill and maim those poor ppl who have lost anything in their life, but stop messing and destroying their traditional lands. Doing the parallelism between the holy bla bla bla european fathers bla bla defending from bla bla bad bad bad asians, is simply anti-christian, anti-slav, anti-humane. IT IS THE SAXONS AND THE GERMANS WHO DESTROY THOSE LANDS AND THEN SUCK THEIR BLOOD (in the form of cheap working labor force). It is the SAME SAXONS AND GERMANS who made you leave your homeland and migrate to Canada. And from what i read, you were really lucky in your decision, you started loving your new land more than your old one, and forget that once YOU YOURSELF was among those asylum seekers.
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