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Post by Arxileas on Mar 9, 2018 7:54:57 GMT -5
Fyrom australians sued by the australian institute of macedonian studies. These racists held a rally on march 4th in melbourne which was meant to be peaceful but instead went on a rampage never seen before in australia, burning greek flags, defaming greece with lies & insults and what not. These extremists will be paying a very heavy price & a lesson to never act like uncivilized monkeys ‘apologies to apes’ this sort of behaviour has no place in australia. More possible law suits coming from other greek orginisations. These people of fyrom just cant protest in a peacful civilised manner. neoskosmos.com/en/111964/fyrom-australians-sued-by-the-australian-institute-of-macedonian-studies/
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Post by rex362 on Mar 9, 2018 15:27:07 GMT -5
thats what happens when 2 fake peoples get together
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Post by Sokol on Mar 12, 2018 17:34:53 GMT -5
neo-greek barbarians desecrate churches..... www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-05/macedonia-community-shocked-by-racist-degrading-graffiti/9512706Melbourne's Macedonian community 'shocked' by racist graffiti on community buildings
By Joseph Dunstan Updated 6 Mar 2018, 1:37am Death to you all graffiti at the Lalor United Sloga Football Club rooms. PHOTO: The graffiti at the football club said "death to you all". (Facebook: Lalor United Sloga FC) Melbourne's Macedonian community has been shocked by a spree of violent and racist graffiti sprayed onto its community buildings. Tension between Melbourne's Greek and Macedonian communities has been high in recent weeks, as their governments try to resolve a decades-old dispute over the Republic of Macedonia's name. The city's Greek community marched in protest of the issue last month, and on Sunday the Macedonian community took to Melbourne's CBD to stage their own rally. Members of the Lalor United Sloga Football Club, in Melbourne's north, said they were stunned to find anti-Macedonian racial slurs and the phrase "death to you all" graffitied onto their club building on Monday morning. Club committee member Sash Nikolovski said his five-year-old son played at the club. "I was actually quite shocked, I didn't realise anything like that would occur at a place that has in excess of 350 junior kids," he said. "Politics should never be part of sport at all. We're there to enjoy playing a nice game of football … we all want to see our children have a bit of a run around. Graffiti on the brick fence of the Macedonian Orthodox Church of St Nikola in Preston, Victoria, saying "f**k Skopje". PHOTO: The Macedonian Orthodox Church of St Nikola was also targeted with the words "f*** Skopje". (Supplied) "We don't want to see that sort of terminology and vandalism put all over the walls of the club. It's just unfortunate." Graffiti 'barbarism' Graffiti also appeared at the Macedonian Orthodox Church of St Nikola in Preston saying "f*** Skopje", a reference to the Republic of Macedonia's capital city. Father Mile Taleski from the church said the vandalism was monstrous and divisive. "We've got parishioners coming here, we've got kids — most of their friends are Greek — what should we explain to those little kids," he said. "I was in awe, not understanding how we can explain this to the younger generation … this vandalism only shows barbarism and disgrace. "Whoever did this has nothing spiritual in them … probably they wanted to create tensions … or increase the tension." The community said it had reported the incidents to the police and local council workers have been clearing the graffiti away. There were also reports of similar displays of anti-Greek sentiment at the weekend rally. Stop death dogs graffiti on a wall at the Lalor United Sloga Football Club. PHOTO: Club committee member Sash Nikolovski was "shocked" by the graffiti. (Facebook: Lalor United Sloga Football Club ) Peter Iassonides, the national coordinator of the Pan-Macedonian Federation of Australia, which represents the Greek community from the Macedonia region of northern Greece, strongly condemned the actions. "We are respectful of other people's property and in this instance, other people's places of worship," he said. "There's no place in a democratic society, there's no place in a multicultural society for things like this to be taking place, there has to be respect, mutual respect." He said the defacement of flags and places of worship was at odds with the spirit of multiculturalism and he would ask the state's Multicultural Commission to intervene. "[To] ask if they can mediate, to organise a meeting between the two so we can discuss [it]," Mr Iassonides said. "So at least we're on the same page when it comes to such violence, the burning of flags and that sort of stuff."
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Post by Arxileas on Mar 13, 2018 17:41:14 GMT -5
I see fyrom ‘former yugoslav republuc of’ community propaganda as usual, claims made with not a shred of evidence, claims made on the internet forums.
It is argued that fyrom communities churches vandalized was self inflicted, how easy is it to self inflict then piont to the Greeks of doing it. No persons have ever been caught of doing it. Greeks write skopia or skops or even fyromians not skopje as a yugoslav does. Then there is the suspect Greek Δ being similar to a bulgarian letter if one looks carefully.
fyrom community always making baseless claims & gets sued for it because its basless claims to defame & slander Greeks, they been used to doing it on the internets but at their rally they forgot they werent anonomous as they are on the internets & are now getting sued for their lies in public because reality is bitting them on the arse as fantasy world called the internets which offeres an escapism is not available in public domain.
Whole of fyroms identity is based on lies & propagandas, anything they claim is always baseless claims.
If there was any substances to any of these claims then why dont they take it all to the authorities & sue like the Greeks do ?
Greeks claims are all evidenced on film, photos & admission by fyrom community members.
Greeks went to their rally peacefully with no flag burning or chanting racist slogans like the fyromian community did. The fyromian community went on a rampage acting like uncivilized monkeys fighting over a banana.
This sort of uncivilised behaviour has no place in Australian soceity.
And lastly, in australia there is no macedonian enthicity.
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Post by Arxileas on Mar 13, 2018 17:42:56 GMT -5
The greek Δ is suspect. More bulgarian looking.
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Post by rex362 on Mar 13, 2018 17:54:03 GMT -5
I think Pyrros is to blame for these incidents
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Post by Sokol on Mar 13, 2018 19:24:47 GMT -5
I see fyrom ‘former yugoslav republuc of’ community propaganda as usual, claims made with not a shred of evidence, claims made on the internet forums. It is argued that fyrom communities churches vandalized was self inflicted, how easy is it to self inflict then piont to the Greeks of doing it. No persons have ever been caught of doing it. Greeks write skopia or skops or even fyromians not skopje as a yugoslav does. Then there is the suspect Greek Δ being similar to a bulgarian letter if one looks carefully. fyrom community always making baseless claims & gets sued for it because its basless claims to defame & slander Greeks, they been used to doing it on the internets but at their rally they forgot they werent anonomous as they are on the internets & are now getting sued for their lies in public because reality is bitting them on the arse as fantasy world called the internets which offeres an escapism is not available in public domain. Whole of fyroms identity is based on lies & propagandas, anything they claim is always baseless claims. If there was any substances to any of these claims then why dont they take it all to the authorities & sue like the Greeks do ? Greeks claims are all evidenced on film, photos & admission by fyrom community members. Greeks went to their rally peacefully with no flag burning or chanting racist slogans like the fyromian community did. The fyromian community went on a rampage acting like uncivilized monkeys fighting over a banana. This sort of uncivilised behaviour has no place in Australian soceity. And lastly, in australia there is no macedonian enthicity. Please. You are making a fool of yourself. Greek vandalism of Macedonian property in Australia is nothing new. You even burned our Churches in the early 1990s. Here's another one from 2011 www.heraldsun.com.au/archive/news/swastikas-painted-on-soccer-pitch-in-altona/news-story/828bd18d0d5d58ea7ca19ffb68b2e61d
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Post by Sokol on Mar 13, 2018 19:26:12 GMT -5
Australia: Greek Hooligans vandalize Macedonian football club
Wednesday, 04 May 2011 Australians of Greek descent raged outside and inside the premises of Altona Magic Vardar football club in Melbourne. The crazed hooligans dug 10 graves, repainted the scoreboard and advertising boards set up by sponsors. A number of graffiti, written by Hellas fans, have emerged on the dressing rooms' walls and onto the pitch. Macedonian flag has been set ablaze in the centre of the football field. The group painted the Greek national flag alongside a Nazi swastika. The Altona Magic Vardar football players, the fans and the Macedonian community in Australia were shocked by this act of vandalism. The Melbourne police are searching for the culprits. macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/18092/50/
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Post by Sokol on Mar 13, 2018 19:36:38 GMT -5
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Post by Sokol on Mar 13, 2018 19:39:53 GMT -5
So who is doing this vandalism in Melbourne, Australia? theconversation.com/golden-dawn-greek-fascists-come-down-under-13212Golden Dawn: Greek fascists come Down UnderMelbourne has long been known as one of the biggest cities for Greek diaspora in the world, and the “world’s most liveable city” is fast becoming the latest battleground for the swelling fascist movement sweeping Greece.
Golden Dawn, the nascent political party capitalising on deep resentment to the European Union’s austerity measures, recently secured 18 seats in the national parliament. In further concerning developments, it is now looking beyond Greece to countries with a large Greek populations like Australia, England and Canada to broaden its political reach.
Typically described as fascist or a neo-Nazi movement, Golden Dawn is currently led by Nikolaos Michaloliakos, a Holocaust denier who has spent time in prison for attacking journalists and carrying illegal guns and explosives. Golden Dawn has been accused of sparking xenophobic violence by promoting anti-immigration policies, and its political symbol bears a striking resemblance to the swastika.
The group now plans to “create cells in every corner of the globe”, and as part of this plan has established a group in Australia to “fight and defend both of our countries with pride and honour”.
Reports suggest the group has more than 200 members and 3000 followers in Melbourne, and plans for Golden Dawn MPs to visit later this year have sparked a firestorm of protest from Greek communities and civil activists. Many prominent Greeks are attempting to prevent them from entering the country, but early indications suggest the government won’t deny them visas.
The rise of Golden Dawn is alarming. There is widespread anger in Greece at the austerity measures imposed by the government and the EU, and by tapping into this fury, movements such as Golden Dawn can draw a level of support previously unattainable.
Expanding the base beyond Greece is the obvious next step when you consider the Greek diaspora is estimated at over seven million, compared to the 11 million people living in Greece. Of the diaspora, 300,000 live in Melbourne alone, making it the world’s third largest Greek city. Many of these expats would now be relatively wealthy compared to those still living in Greece, and their support would go a long way to prop up the organisation financially and give it a sense of international legitimacy.
In saying that, many within the Greek community I have spoken to are both concerned and adamant that the Golden Dawn has no place in contemporary politics. It was reported the Golden Dawn did turn up at the annual Greek festival in Melbourne in mid-March.
This was a sore point with many in the Greek community who were quite angry at their attendance, while simultaneously emphasising that in democracy, all voices emerge. The organising committee, whose members recently invited me to speak at the Antipodes lecture series, made it clear in conversations that the Golden Dawn were neither invited nor welcomed.
This group of progressive, liberal-minded cultural and even political activists, also raised the irony of migrants taking an anti-migrant position.
The rise of far-right extremists in Europe, however, is not just limited to Greece, as many new parties in countries from the United Kingdom to Finland are seeking to capitalise on growing unemployment and rising immigration to help spread their nationalist sentiments. Most of these groups target young adults, pointing to the depressed economic conditions and entrenched youth unemployment to promote strident anti-immigration rhetoric.
Like Golden Dawn, these groups typically espouse extreme right-wing positions of blaming migrants, detecting Jewish conspiracies in any successful business and communist sedition in anyone wearing a red t-shirt, it has no other discernable features.
This is not to make light of an organisation like Golden Dawn that seems to be comfortable promoting violence, racism and take advantage of genuine frustrations. Rather like any other fascist movement, it is based on a brittle and somewhat absurd foundation that would be comedic if not so concerning.
These are the unintended consequences of the austerity package placed on nations such as Greece: and it is time to recognise that forcing a nation into ever deeper recession sows the seeds for such movements.
Golden Dawn is not alone in looking beyond national borders to further the cause. In February this year, the Dutch far-right nationalist Geert Wilders visited Australia on a speaking tour organised by the anti-Islamic Q society – who even hate halal food – sparking protests and renewed discussions about immigration. It appears as though Australia might have to get used to MPs from these far-right movements visiting our country.
I am not a fan of withholding visas from visitors I do not agree with. But perhaps the government should prepare a series of behaviour protocols for those who do come – explaining to them the history of migration, the thousands of years of peaceful co-existence of cultures and as Paul Keating still reminds us, the many risks of letting the racial genie out of the bottle.
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Post by Arxileas on Mar 13, 2018 20:04:21 GMT -5
More claims on the internets. Spewing racist bigotry. Thats the hall marks of a facist. Well done. Claims i dare you wont make in public. Hahaha yet when you’re out in the real world you realise who the fool is, i dare you to make the very claims you make in this forum out in public, away from being a safe space of this forum & anonimity. I dare you lol you know you will be sued as well for making baseless claims 😎 Fyrom community are full of hatred, full of lies & racism. keep,trying to fool but australians know the real truth.
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Post by Arxileas on Mar 13, 2018 20:06:24 GMT -5
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Post by Arxileas on Mar 13, 2018 20:15:04 GMT -5
Hey rexo, they managed to get around 4,500 of protesters lol and they had new zealanders & turks to increase their numbers.
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Post by Arxileas on Mar 13, 2018 20:38:17 GMT -5
Golden dawn doent represent majority of Greeks, they are no different to every country having a minority of facists, to label all Greeks racist or facists based on a very small minority is very silly & propaganda at best.
Australia has liberty alliance & pauline hanson as a minority of supporters, now thet doesnt make all of australians facists.
Very desperate propaganda by you indeed. Your desperation is showing.
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Post by Sokol on Mar 13, 2018 21:28:20 GMT -5
Hey rexo, they managed to get around 4,500 of protesters lol and they had new zealanders & turks to increase their numbers. You've got the wrong rally there. Here's the correct one. There were no Turkish flags, but we did have Croatian, Hungarian and Bosnian flags there. The Greek rallies on the other hand had Serbian flags there
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Post by Sokol on Mar 13, 2018 21:32:13 GMT -5
More claims on the internets. Spewing racist bigotry. Thats the hall marks of a facist. Well done. Claims i dare you wont make in public. Hahaha yet when you’re out in the real world you realise who the fool is, i dare you to make the very claims you make in this forum out in public, away from being a safe space of this forum & anonimity. I dare you lol you know you will be sued as well for making baseless claims 😎 Fyrom community are full of hatred, full of lies & racism. keep,trying to fool but australians know the real truth. Yes, Australians know the truth au.greekreporter.com/2018/01/15/australian-politician-urges-recognition-of-republic-of-macedonia/Australian Politician Urges Recognition of ‘Republic of Macedonia’
By Tasos Kokkinidis - Jan 15, 2018 An Australian politician has called on the country’s government to recognize FYROM as the ‘Republic of Macedonia’. Acting Premier of New South Wales John Barilaro was speaking at a community event to celebrate Orthodox Christmas where he praised the Australia’s multicultural nature. “What I have always loved about the Macedonian community is how you have remained proud of who you are and you raise your children to be proud that they are, of course, the sons and daughters of the immigrants who chose Australia to be their home,” he was quoted by Neos Kosmos as saying. Addressing an audience which included FYROM’s ambassador to Australia, Vele Trpevski, Barilaro went on to state that he “will always acknowledge the Republic of Macedonia” and called for the federal government to do the same. “I hope 2019 … is the year that the world comes to its senses, that Australia as a nation, the Federal government comes to its senses and acknowledges as the only rightful name the Republic of Macedonia”, he was quoted as saying.
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Post by Arxileas on Mar 13, 2018 21:59:10 GMT -5
Im not aware of any serb flags, maybe you’re thinking of wrong rally. It has happened in the past but not aware of any serb flags on this occassion. Recognision depends the out comes from what happens with the talks btw Greece & Fyrom. You cannot steal another nations identity & heritage. Fyrom speaks Bulgarian & slavic mix dilects. Be happy with your own roots. Those who want to be Macedonian, here learn the language. Same languange as the Spartans, Cretans & Athenians.
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Post by Sokol on Mar 13, 2018 22:00:00 GMT -5
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Post by Sokol on Mar 13, 2018 22:15:20 GMT -5
Im not aware of any serb flags, maybe you’re thinking of wrong rally. It has happened in the past but not aware of any serb flags on this occassion. Recognision depends the out comes from what happens with the talks btw Greece & Fyrom. You cannot steal another nations identity & heritage. Fyrom speaks Bulgarian & slavic mix dilects. Be happy with your own roots. Those who want to be Macedonian, here learn the language. Same languange as the Spartans, Cretans & Athenians. Have a look at this pathetic Greek rally in Melbourne For Serbs at the rally, pay attention to 0.57min, 3.48min, 4.45min... For violent threats against two ethnic Macedonians passing by the rally see 6.07min onwards...
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Post by Arxileas on Mar 14, 2018 0:28:32 GMT -5
I know about the fyrom youth who went to cause trouble for the greek rally. The police even confronted them.
The claims of threatening is not true, they went to cause trouble & greeks reacted back, perfectly normal reaction. Dont want to be threatened or abused then dont go instigating.
Notice who the instigators are, fyromians burn flags, call racist terms act so incivilised even their event organizers get worried. And they should because now they are gettiing sued.
I think the Greeks should have broken their legs for instigating
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