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Post by Rusyn on Jan 6, 2020 23:09:01 GMT -5
Why do some Turks (not all) complain about Bosnia?
Note the purpose of this thread ain't racism or national hatred, but i never understood why some Turks complain about Bosnia and Kosovo. First of all Turks were 400 years on Balkan as Ottoman Empire, they were forcing people to convert to Islam and some of serbs and croats did convert on purpose to have better life. Then how come some Turks do complain about Bosnia? Why some turks complain how "evil Bosnian serbs did in srebrenica" ?
First of all when war started in Bosnia, it wasn't Bosnian serbs who started the war first. In fact Bosnian Muslims lead by Izetbegovic and Naser Oric caused havoc in serbian villiges by burning serbian villages and slaughtering serbian people in villager near the Bratunac Kravice srebrenica, etc.. those people were killed slaughtered , their eyes were expiled, head cutten off, entire serbian villages burned. What Bosnian serbs did later in srebrenica was kind of revenge and reply to their war crimes from serbian villages mentioned above. If some innocent muslims were hit by that, of course i say that ain't okay, but majority of muslims killed were war criminals too. I don't say what happened in srebrenica is okay, but i am saying that serbs at leats spared muslim women and children unlike bosnian muslims who didnt spare any civilian. And als0 that group of muslim military, if they are so good innocent and did nothing wrong, why they then were hiding in Netherlands UN building if they were so innocent? Please answer me this? Of course war is war and mostly innocent people are suffering bit but i am trying to point it out bosnian serbs were more focusing on revenge on agressors who were killing innocent serbian civilian eariler. And when we say to world what really happened in bosnia they reply back to us "DONT LIE U EvIL sERBs YOU DID sREBRENICA FIRsT YOU ONLY TO TRY TO ExCUsE YOUR WAR CRIMEs BLAH BLAH" seriously i am sick of this injustice. if some serbs did war crimes they deserve to be sued for it thats for sure, but same must appiles to Muslims who did war crimes to serbs, but the problem is that Hague Tribunal is corrupted and only sued serbs but not Naser Oric and other scum that did war crimes. Plus the fact all yugoslav break up wars were actually done by Americans and their servents.
Again in Kosovo, Americans created havoc. They supported UCK Albanian terrorist to kill serbs, albanians against terrorit regime, etc... Not only UCK killed serbs and Albanian civilains but also other non-albanian muslim minorities such as Kosovar Turks and Gorani people. How come you turks can support fake terrority country of Kosovo, which become main drug trafficking enter of Balkans, when their fake terrority military killed your national minorites Kosovar Turks as well.
Note i have nothing against modern Turkey, in fact i am learning Turkish langugage, listen to turkish songs watching turkish soaps, but why some of you guys dislike us? Please anwer nicely i dont want flamewars, i am new to the forum anyway.
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Post by hellboy87 on Jan 7, 2020 2:57:39 GMT -5
I'm not a Turkish citizen, so I don't know nor see any of this Bosnia trashing you're talking about. Where do you see it?
Where are you from, by the way?
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Post by Pyrros on Jan 7, 2020 3:07:39 GMT -5
Why do some Turks (not all) complain about Bosnia?
Note the purpose of this thread ain't racism or national hatred, but i never understood why some Turks complain about Bosnia and Kosovo. First of all Turks were 400 years on Balkan as Ottoman Empire, they were forcing people to convert to Islam and some of serbs and croats did convert on purpose to have better life. Then how come some Turks do complain about Bosnia? Why some turks complain how "evil Bosnian serbs did in srebrenica" ? First of all when war started in Bosnia, it wasn't Bosnian serbs who started the war first. In fact Bosnian Muslims lead by Izetbegovic and Naser Oric caused havoc in serbian villiges by burning serbian villages and slaughtering serbian people in villager near the Bratunac Kravice srebrenica, etc.. those people were killed slaughtered , their eyes were expiled, head cutten off, entire serbian villages burned. What Bosnian serbs did later in srebrenica was kind of revenge and reply to their war crimes from serbian villages mentioned above. If some innocent muslims were hit by that, of course i say that ain't okay, but majority of muslims killed were war criminals too. I don't say what happened in srebrenica is okay, but i am saying that serbs at leats spared muslim women and children unlike bosnian muslims who didnt spare any civilian. And als0 that group of muslim military, if they are so good innocent and did nothing wrong, why they then were hiding in Netherlands UN building if they were so innocent? Please answer me this? Of course war is war and mostly innocent people are suffering bit but i am trying to point it out bosnian serbs were more focusing on revenge on agressors who were killing innocent serbian civilian eariler. And when we say to world what really happened in bosnia they reply back to us "DONT LIE U EvIL sERBs YOU DID sREBRENICA FIRsT YOU ONLY TO TRY TO ExCUsE YOUR WAR CRIMEs BLAH BLAH" seriously i am sick of this injustice. if some serbs did war crimes they deserve to be sued for it thats for sure, but same must appiles to Muslims who did war crimes to serbs, but the problem is that Hague Tribunal is corrupted and only sued serbs but not Naser Oric and other scum that did war crimes. Plus the fact all yugoslav break up wars were actually done by Americans and their servents. Again in Kosovo, Americans created havoc. They supported UCK Albanian terrorist to kill serbs, albanians against terrorit regime, etc... Not only UCK killed serbs and Albanian civilains but also other non-albanian muslim minorities such as Kosovar Turks and Gorani people. How come you turks can support fake terrority country of Kosovo, which become main drug trafficking enter of Balkans, when their fake terrority military killed your national minorites Kosovar Turks as well. Note i have nothing against modern Turkey, in fact i am learning Turkish langugage, listen to turkish songs watching turkish soaps, but why some of you guys dislike us? Please anwer nicely i dont want flamewars, i am new to the forum anyway.
Zivela Srbija i Bugarska!
To me Bulgarians are the best nation in the balkans hands down.
Why Turkey complain about Bosnia? Because they work for the whest.
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Post by Rusyn on Jan 7, 2020 3:25:25 GMT -5
I'm not a Turkish citizen, so I don't know nor see any of this Bosnia trashing you're talking about. Where do you see it? Where are you from, by the way? But you are Turk i guess? Sorry but i Saw many complaining from the internet of Turkish guys on Serbs how they were responsible for war in Bosnia and how they are Muslim killers number one or something. I saw this same thing on Quora forum, many other internet forums, YouTube commentx, flamewar everywhere. So i wanted to hear from those who were saying that why they do that, etc.. Hope you understand me because my english isn't very good. By the way, i am from Serbia, Vojvodina, but i am Half-Bulgarian Half-Rusyn by etncity. Currerntly i am in Serbia's capital Belgrade. Pyrross hvala brate, but i live in Serbia not Bugarska
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Post by Pyrros on Jan 8, 2020 5:15:59 GMT -5
half-bulgar + half-rusyn = A COMPLETE SLAV!!!
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Post by Rusyn on Jan 8, 2020 15:10:44 GMT -5
Yes thats exactly how i feel, like pure slav!
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Post by hellboy87 on Jan 16, 2020 16:29:54 GMT -5
But you are Turk i guess? Sorry but i Saw many complaining from the internet of Turkish guys on Serbs how they were responsible for war in Bosnia and how they are Muslim killers number one or something. I saw this same thing on Quora forum, many other internet forums, YouTube commentx, flamewar everywhere. So i wanted to hear from those who were saying that why they do that, etc.. Hope you understand me because my english isn't very good. By the way, i am from Serbia, Vojvodina, but i am Half-Bulgarian Half-Rusyn by etncity. Currerntly i am in Serbia's capital Belgrade. Pyrross hvala brate, but i live in Serbia not Bugarska I have Ottoman ancestry. I think I understand their reasoning. Weren't the Serbs responsible for the ethnic conflicts in the Balkans in the 90's? Also, I guess that the Turks feel a kinship to the Bosniaks as they're fellow Muslims, so they may have antipathy towards the Serbs for persecuting their Muslim brethren. Yes, I do understand you. I hope that you understand me too. Why do you live in Serbia and not Bulgaria?
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Post by Rusyn on Jan 17, 2020 8:29:26 GMT -5
Yes i do understand you in this manner, but the fact is its American propaganda that serbs were repsonsible for Yugoslav break up waes. Many dont want to admit Srebrenica wansnt a genocide but a just a crime. Plus nobody mentioned Srebrenica is revenge for massacres around Bosnian serbian villages like Kravice Bratunac etc.. Many are quiet about serbian victimcs but everyone is loud on muslim victims and not only loud about it but increesse fake number of victims so the serbs look more evil. v Howw much people were killed in srebrenica that much was killed people in New York Twin Buildings 9/11, yet srebrenica is classified genocide while the 9/11 isnt? And now if we speak of other Balkan conflict, let say Croatia, you think serbs are responsible too? No, president of Croatia franjo Tudjman clearly said, there is even recorded speech how only way to get indeependence from Croatia is by mean of war. There is other recordings where you can clearly hear how Croatian Generals plot on sneaking killing off Yugoslav Generals and officiers and their own house enterance. Dont forgoet they did Operation Storm by etnically cleaning 300.000 serbs. There is even sick scenario where Two sCroatian Pilots were bombing escaping serbian peasent on tractors colony from their planes. What a brave croatian pilots to bomb escaping unarmed people who were already victims of theirs genocide. And dont forgot in World War 2 Nazi puppet state of Croatia killed 700.000 people (serbs, jews and gypsyes) on most barbaric ways like cutting their heads off torturing them painfully until they bleed, killing them with giant hammers into smashing their head, taking of embrions unborned babies from their pregnant mothers and burning them, thoring serbian kids into abyss. in World War 2 even SS Handzar division was part of Croatian Nazi regime, which was made off Bosnian Muslims. Even Palestinian Mufti of Jerusalem came to Hitler and later to bosnia to eencourage the bossnian muslims to kill serbs and jewc in name of Islamw. Now back to 90s, nobody is talking how Naser Oric burned and torturned serbs alive,f expiled their eyes, burned entire serbians villages and srebrenica was all reply to all that. Speaking of Kosovo nobody cant deny that UCK were terrorist group that killed both Albanians and serbs and that UCK ethically cleaned serbian land kosovo from majority of serbs so they become minorty. Even in ottoman Turkish sources there is cleary mentioned that in 14th and later in 18th century there was much more serbs on Kosovo than Albanians. This document is held in Istanbul museum today. Yes many european will say how Ottomans behaved barbaric but that was mostly old times, but the fact Croats Bosnian Muslims and Albanian still behaved barbaric in 20th and 21st century is proof how primitive they actually are.
BTW to answer your question, i am borned in Vojvodina province of Serbia, which is multietnical. There live Rusyns bulgars slovak ukranian hungarian romanian bunjevac and many other nations live together along with serbs and nobody is complaining. I have serbian citizenship, why i would live in Bulgaria, the fact i am not onl bulgarian but also Rusyn thanks to multiethnic Vojvodina mixture.
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Post by branislavnusic on Jan 17, 2020 17:11:02 GMT -5
And the croatian crimes shocked even the Germans
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Post by Rusyn on Apr 10, 2020 1:18:23 GMT -5
When i remind of sick war crimes of Croatian-ustashe, Handzar division, and Skenderbeg division i am getting the mental nerve break.
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Post by Vizier of Oz on Apr 30, 2021 14:46:20 GMT -5
Yes thats exactly how i feel, like pure slav! Half Bulgar means half Turk.☺
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