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Post by wbb on Mar 10, 2008 5:41:45 GMT -5
Hello Albanians check this out, hah. Albanians have a brother. ;D The Illyrians of the Western Balkans were among these ancient peoples, and the Pannonians of the Western Carpathian Basin were also Illyrians.Rome conquered Illyria in 168 BC and Pannonia in 10 BC. Roman sources indicate that the language of the Pannonians was related to Hungarians.www.hunmagyar.org/taj/delvidek/index.htmlSo Pannonians are Illyrians who are todays Hungarians. Illyrians are todays Albanians. Hahaha wooohooo, Albanians and Hungarians are relatives, yes,yes,yes. Now Kosova-Dardania independent, let's start the Illyrian movement by uniting Albania and Hungary together, which causes a Neo-Illyria. ;D
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PARIS DIO_MYSUS!
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Post by PARIS DIO_MYSUS! on Mar 10, 2008 11:45:40 GMT -5
Yea, Everybody in Europe and US are our brothers in Albania. Celtics, Scandinavians and all other Venetians are Albanians brothers. Romans have separated Albanians all over in Europe. Wherever around the globe that are Albans, Albanians and Albany's there is Albania. However, Hungarians looking more jews than they are Albanian. Myself, Sun_MYSUS www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/MysiansMysia pronounced Messiah!
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Post by Kanaris on Mar 10, 2008 15:02:19 GMT -5
The Turks also claim Hungarians... from Attila the Hun.... so now Albanians are related ..makes sense...a complete circle and an answer to my long last question on the whereabouts of Albanians during the Dark Ages.... so let me get this clear.... Turks ,Hungarians and Albanians are all from the same stock? Eureka!!! Oh..did I mention you should also put the cap back on the glue bottle? ;D
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Post by epiroti on Mar 10, 2008 15:19:52 GMT -5
I'm no history student - and neither do I really think that we are connected (significantly) - but I do know that we gave hell to the ottomans in the 15th century. I remember Barleti writting something along the lines of 'there is hardly a mother who doesn't wear black (having lost a family member) due to these turkish wars' for both of our countries. So, respect to the hungarians.
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Post by PARIS DIO_MYSUS! on Mar 10, 2008 17:28:29 GMT -5
Hey Kane,
Hun... means Nose so
do you have anything with that?
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Post by wbb on Mar 11, 2008 2:30:38 GMT -5
wrong Mysia, how could hungarians look more jews when there's only 10,000 jews in Hungary? Albanians and Hungarians look the same, compare with Albanians with Greeks or Albanians with Serbs. Canaris, let me tell u this simple and straight. Before any arrivals to Balkans by foreigners that including Romans, Slavic, Turks, Mongols, Avars, Tatars, Gypsies, Magyars, Illyrians was already there in Balkans including todays Hungary (Pannonia), since the arrival of Arpad the Magyar, Pannonians already inhabited the area, even right before Slavic arrival, now it's been a possibility that Magyars came to Balkans in not so big numbers, but rather intermarries with Illyrian-Pannonians who later became Magyarised Illyrians today. But like i said before Hungarians and Albanians are from same family Illyrians. There's only a few Hungarians in Balkans today look still Asiatic, the rest is all more of Illyrian looking, yes there's alot of Hungarians with blond hair, that's because they have Germanic or Nordic blood in them but u look at majority of them, they all very different than those of blondies.
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Post by diurpaneus on Mar 11, 2008 3:18:55 GMT -5
How did Roman soruces "indicate" this if the magyars arrived in Europe in year 1000 A.D. long after the Latin Roman Empire died.
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Post by grksdied4you on Mar 11, 2008 9:14:44 GMT -5
Diupaneus, I could be wrong but I think he is talking about the arrival of the Huns that destroyed the Roman Empire.
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Post by diurpaneus on Mar 11, 2008 9:19:49 GMT -5
Huns are not Hungarians. Hungarians descend from the Magyars.
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Post by grksdied4you on Mar 11, 2008 9:22:51 GMT -5
Oh I thought they descend from both and that is how they get the name HUNgarians. My mistake.
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Post by PARIS DIO_MYSUS! on Mar 11, 2008 10:13:44 GMT -5
There is a double head eagle similar flag that Austro-Hungarian might be say that are related with Albania. As I know Hungaria been playing very well soccer especially that time when with national team played Pushkash one of the most very famous and world's best soccer player during 60s-65.
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Post by pagane on Mar 11, 2008 14:34:36 GMT -5
What Hungarians at that time of the Roman Empire? And what have Hungarians to do with Romans at all?
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Post by wbb on Mar 12, 2008 3:59:52 GMT -5
wrong Diur, Magyars was already entered the Pannonian field in 896, and by 900-901 they all gathered and moved back to Pannonia after their raids towards Europe. I dont know where the hell u get that Magyars arrived in 1000 AD when Hungary is more than 1000 AD years old, go back to school Diur, read ur history right. But Pannonians who are Illyrians was already in Present-day Hungary, right before Slavic, Romans, and yes of course Romanians.
Yes Huns, u said it right, Greek4u, the original name for Hungarians was Huns, todays hungarians are magyars, but it's english description for Magyars is not correct, rather Magyarians is more correct than Hungarians. When Romans indicated that Pannonians was speaking Hungarian, it's means that Pannonians was speaking a foreign language other than Latin or Roman, they spoke Illyrian dialect of Pannoni which is very much similar to Hungarians todays, You know very well that Illyrian's anchestor was Kadmus, he wasnt Illyrian at all but Phoenicians, Phoenicia was in todays Lebanon. Kadmus married Halmonia and had a son name Illyrius, that's how it's started the all Illyrian tribes. Only 2 tribes are recent Illyrian blooded today, Hungarians and Albanians. Before any Asian arrival to Balkans, Pannonians was the first Hungarians. What do u think who built Aquincum (todays Buda) ? Ancient Hungarians did. I hope u understand now, our history is not confusing at all.
Pagane use ur brain, HUNS and PANNONIANS is common sense. Pannonians was a native to present day Hungary, then Asiatic Huns came and intermarries with Pannonians, that's how it's happend. Slavic people camed right after Pannonians and Huns.
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Post by pagane on Mar 12, 2008 5:42:34 GMT -5
Wbb, for your information, it is not certain at all that Magyars were part of the Huns. These are just theories. The only people who undoubtedly were part of that union were the Bulgars. So would you say that Bulgars are brothers to Albanians?
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Post by wbb on Mar 12, 2008 5:51:44 GMT -5
where did i say that all magyars was part of Huns? maybe for u but not for us. rubbish, bulgars was never part of the Huns tribe, Bulgars were rather part of Turks tribe than Huns. Bulgars are slavic, Albanians are Illyrians, Hungarians are Pannonians which is also Illyrians.
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Post by pagane on Mar 12, 2008 7:50:06 GMT -5
Swept by the Hunnish wave at the beginning of the 4th century AD, other numerous Bulgarian tribes broke loose from their settlements in central Asia to migrate to the fertile lands along the lower valleys of the Donets and the Don rivers and the Azov seashore. Some of these remained for centuries in their new settlements, whereas others moved on with the Huns towards Central Europe, settling in Pannonia. www.spiritus-temporis.com/history-of-bulgaria/The shortest info possible, just to make sure you will manage to comprehend it.
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Post by diurpaneus on Mar 12, 2008 11:28:35 GMT -5
In my oppinion, hungarians are the only peoples from Europe who are still searching for their origins.
Every year, hungarian nationalists come up with ludicrous theories about thier origins. Some years ago they claimed they descend from etruscans, now illyrians.... they try to justify thier presence in Europe and can`t accept the simple truth, namely that they descend from asiatic nomadic peoples who invaded Europe.
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Post by wbb on Mar 13, 2008 4:05:04 GMT -5
that's bs, Bulgars was a different tribe and Huns was a different tribe, Bulgars didnt came with Attila's invasion on Europe. no they dont, they decend from Cadmus the father of Illyrius, it's common sense. Cadmus was a Phoenician who had a son Illyrius, Illyrius had one of his son named Auterius, Auterius had a son named Pannonius, one of Pannonians name themself Maezae, Maezae was a sub-group of Pannonian-Illyrians, yes Maezae, that's how the proto-Magyars started, Magyars is the last surviving sub-group of Pannonians in Hungary today. After that all Asian camed and destroyed our homes but later assimilated into Magyars, since they agreed with the so-called confederacy of Magyars, adopting Maezae's name the sub-group of Pannonians. this is why i have arguement with some Hungarian members in this forum, they say something without really knowing it, i told them that they are contaminating our history, culture, etc,etc. that bs but rather Estrucans is a cousin of Hungarians, Etruscans decend from Troy (Dardanians) who is from Dardanus, Dardanus is from Illyrius, Illyrius is from Cadmus. Etruscans was assimilated by Romans anyway so it's impossible that Hungarians decend from Etruscans. actually it was the asiatic nomads from asia who attacked us but later became our brothers.
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Post by pagane on Mar 13, 2008 5:34:11 GMT -5
wbb, do you have problems with reading? Besides, Hun is not an ethnicity. You should know that.
What?!?!?!
Are you OK, mate?
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Post by wbb on Mar 13, 2008 5:51:31 GMT -5
Huns is an ethnicity of Asians fool. go and read ur history before u post any comment like that.
im ok wat about u? too much hashish? no good u gotta give it up, it's twisting ur slavic mind and makes u paramaniac.
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