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Post by radovic on Jan 22, 2008 10:05:45 GMT -5
Government of Montenegro in Exile: Serbian Orthodox Church is united, right on Serb Patriarchal Throne belongs to Montenegro Official paper of Government of Montenegro in Exile "Voice of Montenegrin" published in France on 24 September 1920 the article "Serb Patriarchate". Montenegrin Government in Exile accepts unification of all Serbian Orthodox episcopal seats in the Serbian Orthodox Church but claims that Montenegro as forever free Serb state and liberator of old Serb Patriarchal Seat of the Monastery of Pec has the right on the Serb Patriarchal Throne more than Serbia.
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Post by terroreign on Jan 22, 2008 14:02:49 GMT -5
This proves nothing
Not only does the article not adress the Montenegrin church as serbian, it refrences the Montenegrin people as a Race, and does not say anything about accepting the "unification"
The real meaning of this article is that Montenegrins wanted the Montenegrin church to have the Pec Churches, instead of serbia, considering we freed them from the turks and the serbs didn't
And just a little heads up; Serbia obviously didn't view Montenegrins as brothers or even as friends because they did not agree to this nor did they even recognize it...
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Post by radovic on Jan 22, 2008 14:17:06 GMT -5
^ It proves the exact opposte of what you claim in your post.
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Post by terroreign on Jan 22, 2008 14:18:40 GMT -5
Read it and prove me wrong, because I already read it
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Post by radovic on Jan 22, 2008 14:24:07 GMT -5
Read it and prove me wrong, because I already read it ^i found this on the Njegos.org website. That website wopuld never publish anything supproting your historical revisionism.
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Post by terroreign on Jan 22, 2008 14:37:09 GMT -5
What you really meant to say is, they would never post anything proving that their revisionist history is wrong...too bad they did not read this either...
So wait, you cannot read Cyrillic or what Radovic?
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Post by radovic on Jan 22, 2008 16:27:12 GMT -5
What you really meant to say is, they would never post anything proving that their revisionist history is wrong...too bad they did not read this either... So wait, you cannot read Cyrillic or what Radovic? I can read cyrillic fool. Nothing in this article goes counter to what I say.
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Post by terroreign on Jan 22, 2008 17:32:50 GMT -5
"Crnogorski Narod", "Crna Gora i njena Crkva(CPC)" - these are terms that validate that I'm right
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Post by radovic on Jan 22, 2008 17:38:16 GMT -5
"Crnogorski Narod", "Crna Gora i njena Crkva(CPC)" - these are terms that validate that I'm right Clearly you don't know the difference between ethniticity and nations. Montenegrins are a nation, not an ethniticity. And the CPC now is not a legitimiate institutuion. The CPC leadership approved the unification & the current CPC is an illegitimate institution created in the 90s with no connection to the pre-WWI institution.
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Post by terroreign on Jan 24, 2008 3:51:37 GMT -5
Narod refers to a race, understand? Do you even know serbo-croatian?
The CPC is a legitimate institution in Montenegro, what are you talking about. The CPC before did NOT approve of the union, this is the problem.
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Post by radovic on Jan 24, 2008 10:34:19 GMT -5
Narod refers to a race, understand? Do you even know serbo-croatian? The CPC is a legitimate institution in Montenegro, what are you talking about. The CPC before did NOT approve of the union, this is the problem. Rod refers to race. Narod refers to nation. And yes I do. But from posts you made on the old forum we can deduce you know it at a grade 1 level. CPC is not a legitimate institution. The merger was perfectly legal -- the ecumenical patriarch recognizes it as being legal. No legitimate Orthodox Church recognizes the CPC. Also finally. If the CPC was to claim any kind of legitimacy it would need to have continuity with the old CPC. It does not.
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Post by terroreign on Jan 25, 2008 3:39:14 GMT -5
No, rod means kin, Narod means ethnicity, Nacija would be a nation.
Narod could refer to nation, but in an ethnic manner, for example the "Black nation", ect. While Nacija would refer to the Country.
It is a legitimate religious institution in Montenegro.
But it just is not canonical as of now.
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Post by radovic on Jan 25, 2008 10:15:27 GMT -5
No, rod means kin, Narod means ethnicity, Nacija would be a nation. Narod could refer to nation, but in an ethnic manner, for example the "Black nation", ect. While Nacija would refer to the Country. Actually if you would look at the definition of narod. You'd see it refers to a nation culturally, politically, and psychologically. And the word nation is used in the same way. The two words are interchangable. And rod refers to race. Or are you unaware of how Rod is translated into other languiages. thhen that means that Montenegro does not respect religions. Furthermore. The MOC will never be canonical.
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Post by terroreign on Jan 25, 2008 17:04:41 GMT -5
Narod refers to a cultural and ethnic nation, or simply "People"
Nacija refers to Nation, Nacialnost to Nationality, as in a citizen of a country
Rod refers to kin, or people you are directly related to, not specifically your ethnic group.
Montenegro respects religion more so than serbia
MOC will be canonical because the people will it.
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Post by radovic on Jan 25, 2008 21:01:21 GMT -5
Narod refers to a cultural and ethnic nation, or simply "People" Nacija refers to Nation, Nacialnost to Nationality, as in a citizen of a country Rod refers to kin, or people you are directly related to, not specifically your ethnic group. Narod/Nacija refer to the same thing (http://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9D%D0%B0%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B4, sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nacija). Rod means race. Also, the definition you give to rod affirms that it means race. No. It doesn't. If it did then it wouldn't allow the CPC to be doing what is doing. In Serbia it would be illegal for a Church claiming the name Catholic that is not recognized by the vatican to operate, and the same applies to all churches including the Orthodox one. all Montenegro is doing is refusing to respect the rules of the Orthodox Church. Furthermore. You seem to not know what makes a church canonical. It is recognition by the ecumenical patriarch and legitimate Orthodox Churches recognized by the patriarch.
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