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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Dec 4, 2007 12:15:14 GMT -5
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Dec 4, 2007 12:16:02 GMT -5
lol and we aren't even in the EU.
Lol look at the EU countries LOL
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Post by Kanaris on Dec 4, 2007 13:06:24 GMT -5
You're 75 million people..if you factor in the land and the population and compare it to Greece you would be at 200 place nothing to brag about...compare yourselves to France and Italy..which have slightly less populations than you and then tell me where you stand... Or remove Istanbul..... and you would be right next to Serre Leoni..
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Dec 4, 2007 17:01:31 GMT -5
AA I see because your population is less compared to Turkey thats why you are worse off. hmm so can you explain to me exactly why Czech Republic are number 33, Hungary are 47, and Latvia (2 mill ppl) are 45 in that list since they have less people than you? Also how comes Turkey is better off than Russia ıf we are comparing land mass? If u can answer these questions Il even reward you with a smiley face
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Post by Kanaris on Dec 4, 2007 18:29:25 GMT -5
The final thing to watch if GDP per person.... that will tell me the spending power of the people...
These new E.U. countries were in shambles so their growth and competitiveness is naturally high... at this given time... when it stabilizes it will naturally fall to real levels...same goes for Turkey and other below 10,000 dollar per head GDP countries...
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Dec 4, 2007 18:31:33 GMT -5
what does that have to do with global competitivity?
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Post by Kanaris on Dec 4, 2007 19:53:28 GMT -5
what does that have to do with global competitivity? So where is all this money Turkey is acquiring through global competitiveness going? Certainly not to it's people..... since they are way below average in the GDP area....... Inflation rate is above 10% compared to Greece's 3.2%... people living under the poverty rate is over 20%...... I point these things out..... because you mentioned the word Greece.... and you are forgetting the fact that Greece is only 10 million people... it's as big as Istanbul .... compare yourselfs to Italy and Germany.. You are over glamorizing this.... as if it's a final marker in a country's economic health.... I am not saying it's something not to be positive about and yes Turkeys economy has only one way to go and that is up....
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Post by ahristos on Dec 4, 2007 23:38:40 GMT -5
yez but turks works 24 h for one loaf of bred ha ha there arent strikes.... low sallaries why so meny turks let turkey for to work in EUROZONES cauntries ? low salaries is ur competative sicrit ha ha turks are semi sturved the last years do u luve it fatima guzel u are in UK and u get pounds not liras idiot
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Dec 5, 2007 1:53:35 GMT -5
Turkey is among the 20 biggest economies in the world. Furthermore, it is an unsaturated market in almost every category of consumption goods, ranging from fast moving consumer goods to high technology products. We have a qualified professional young workforce. Tourism and Service industries just keep on rising.
At the end of the day Canaris, this isn't about the END consumer its about the GLOBAL competitiveness.
Just face it, without the EU aid Greece wouldnt be much to talk about..... Stop also with the 10 million people thing, talk to your diaspora about why they dont want to live in Greece until they are 80. You will get your answer.
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Post by depletedreasons on Dec 5, 2007 3:24:49 GMT -5
www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detaylar.do?load=detay&link=108918Interestingly, nominal GDP of Turkey will surpass Taiwan, Holland in 2010s. So, in early 2010s, Turkey will be one of the top 15 economies of the World. Later in 2020s, Turkey's GDP will outmatch the GDPs' of Canada, and Spain respectfully. In my humble opinion, Turkey also has a good chance to exceed the GDPs of Indonesia, Italy, Korea and Mexico if she could accelerate her pace a bit. By the way, the figures given above were some estimation, and I must say that the Turkish GDP will be even reasonably larger than the one anticipated for 2007 and 2008. Nevertheless, there is one thing for sure. The Western economies and population will account much less of the World Economy as the decades go by. When Greece realizes that Europe has no bright future, she will be the first to evacuate that ship slowly sinking like Titanic. My prediction? Greece will come back to the daddy's house within a few decades. ;D
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Post by leandros nikon on Dec 7, 2007 18:50:39 GMT -5
Hey,i dont know much about economics,but i do have a couple of questions for you...a couple of years ago-late nineties i think-the turkish economy was about to collapse...there was a huge economic crisis in turkey and some international economic organisation supported your economy by providing a gigantic loan to turkey...in the meanwhile,the mexican economy which happened to experience serious economic problems as well,was allowed to collapse...once again politics is a biatch and you do get your american and european economic support although you dont belong to the E.U... ALSO,we do know that the wealthiest turkish people produce weapons for Turkey,dont we now boys? ;D i mean that if the money that was spent by greece for all these weapons were given to greek industries,i supose that the several figures of our economy would be much better... Only the 500 new BMP-3 that Karamanlis' government has ordered,will cost about 1,7 billion euros.... so,i think that the growth of the turkish economy is based on weapon production.You buy weapons and you violate the greek territorial rights,therefore you force greece to answer and buy more weapons.So,you harm our economy,this money should be spent elsewhere...Once again,your chauvinist and militaristic country proves that there is no place in the E.U for Turkey. ================================================================================================================================== www.infoturkish.com/Turkey/Kemal-Dervis.htmlWhen Derviº became Turkey"™s minister of economic affairs in March, 2001, after a 22-year career at the World Bank, the country was facing it's worst economic crisis in modern history and prospects for success were uncertain.These reforms, and his reputation and top-level contacts in the U.S. and Europe, helped him to mobilize $20 billion in new loans from the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank.
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Post by yahadj on Dec 9, 2007 9:54:31 GMT -5
Leandros,
we are so sorry we ruin your economy...Oooo, poor boy. But you know, we are evil Turks. That is the best thing we do. Get used to that... Well, don't spend any money for weapons. EU is behind you, right? They will protect you... ;D
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Post by ahristos on Dec 9, 2007 23:47:43 GMT -5
bgd= 3rths wolds economy even Mexicos bgd is better ha ha ur economy is oportunistic more capitol flows out then entry u go from crisis to crisis up and in bottom then u are in internationals comp hands 95% so close ur mouth because after 10 years u gonna get again crisis and then again heeeelp me u scream IMF comes soon fukara... turks always wash no money
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Post by depletedreasons on Dec 10, 2007 3:41:38 GMT -5
The forthcoming economic crisis (depression) will be originated from the West, and you are going to collapse together with the USA. Tell me, how bad it could be to have debt in USD when the USD amounts nothing?
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Post by jerryspringer on Dec 11, 2007 10:25:33 GMT -5
It would be interesting to compare the future Turks, with an equal standard of life to the same standard that the Western Europeans are now holding, to today's Europeans. I think that the Turks would show more pride and be more arrogant than the average Westerner. Note that pride in this case doesn't stand for selfrespect or national pride. It stands for self-righteousness and arrogance.
And also, what does it tell you about those who hope that the economy of another country will collapse? If Western Europe goes to hell, it's the working class that will take the hit. The rich people will get away either way. So much frustation and hate against a part of the world that welcomed millions of Turks into their country and celebrated them as equals.
But perhaps you're right. The white man has had the time to prove himself and he failed. Now it's the turn of the Asian man. I hope it will go better than the last time, when most of the world was burning and everything that was born female was raped.
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Dec 11, 2007 10:37:17 GMT -5
ur right about the arrogance.
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Dec 11, 2007 11:13:41 GMT -5
Actually I want to giv an example of some wierd Turkish attitudes. I bought some chanel make up a few days ago, the assistant at the desk decided that I JUST MUST see the new Dior promotion. I said fine.. went over and it was this: I was horrified as If I would walk around like a free advert for dior. I said its not my style but she wouldn't giveup, I told her that I have hundreds of lipglosses and I do not need another disguised as a xmas tree decoration. Finally when she didnt give up I had to tell her,I do not like to wear labels with brand names showing. This time she was shocked. I said I hate the fact it says dior on it. She said its really strange and all the women in Turkey love wearing labels. It shows how 'stylish' they are. What a lame attitude. she then turned it wierdly to the fact I bought Chanel make up, and I said yes and only I know it not the whole world. God she was trying to convince me that I am wrong... she thought she had the right to tell me IM WRONG for thinking like that.
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Post by depletedreasons on Dec 12, 2007 3:35:21 GMT -5
It would be interesting to compare the future Turks, with an equal standard of life to the same standard that the Western Europeans are now holding, to today's Europeans. I think that the Turks would show more pride and be more arrogant than the average Westerner. Note that pride in this case doesn't stand for selfrespect or national pride. It stands for self-righteousness and arrogance. And also, what does it tell you about those who hope that the economy of another country will collapse? If Western Europe goes to hell, it's the working class that will take the hit. The rich people will get away either way. So much frustation and hate against a part of the world that welcomed millions of Turks into their country and celebrated them as equals. But perhaps you're right. The white man has had the time to prove himself and he failed. Now it's the turn of the Asian man. I hope it will go better than the last time, when most of the world was burning and everything that was born female was raped. Frankly speaking, I think the living standards of Western/European nations might fall sharply before the Turks could achieve such standards. Of course, you are right about the burden that the Western/European working classes would receive, but that is what capitalism is all about. Chinese state regulates the exploitation of China's human resources to create a far more competitive working class with comprehensive capabilities. In my humble opinion, there is no way that the Western/European working classes could compete with such an effective power without giving up all of their gains. Of course, such shift in economic power means nothing if it is not backed up by political and military strength. That is why, emergence of an Asian Union around the Chinese nucleus does not sound so delusional to me. I believe that there will be such attempts in the forthcoming years.
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Post by chalkedon on Dec 12, 2007 4:48:41 GMT -5
" Finally when she didnt give up I had to tell her,I do not like to wear labels with brand names showing. This time she was shocked. I said I hate the fact it says dior on it. She said its really strange and all the women in Turkey love wearing labels. It shows how 'stylish' they are. "
^^^^ Greek Mentality as well....
for ppl that were part of the diaspora and lived in big cities...we dont care to show brand names. Whereas places in the SE mediterenean wil buy the expensive item ( no matter how ugly ) just to show its a brand name ;D
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Post by jerryspringer on Dec 12, 2007 10:16:17 GMT -5
It would be interesting to compare the future Turks, with an equal standard of life to the same standard that the Western Europeans are now holding, to today's Europeans. I think that the Turks would show more pride and be more arrogant than the average Westerner. Note that pride in this case doesn't stand for selfrespect or national pride. It stands for self-righteousness and arrogance. And also, what does it tell you about those who hope that the economy of another country will collapse? If Western Europe goes to hell, it's the working class that will take the hit. The rich people will get away either way. So much frustation and hate against a part of the world that welcomed millions of Turks into their country and celebrated them as equals. But perhaps you're right. The white man has had the time to prove himself and he failed. Now it's the turn of the Asian man. I hope it will go better than the last time, when most of the world was burning and everything that was born female was raped. Frankly speaking, I think the living standards of Western/European nations might fall sharply before the Turks could achieve such standards. Of course, you are right about the burden that the Western/European working classes would receive, but that is what capitalism is all about. Chinese state regulates the exploitation of China's human resources to create a far more competitive working class with comprehensive capabilities. In my humble opinion, there is no way that the Western/European working classes could compete with such an effective power without giving up all of their gains. Of course, such shift in economic power means nothing if it is not backed up by political and military strength. That is why, emergence of an Asian Union around the Chinese nucleus does not sound so delusional to me. I believe that there will be such attempts in the forthcoming years. All the analyses show continuous econimal growth in most of Europe, so I wonder what you know that the rest do not know. But the fascinating thing about you is not what you believe, but what you wish for.
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