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Post by yahadj on Feb 3, 2008 3:43:51 GMT -5
Good Muslim is a person who worships only one God, competes in good deeds, helps the poor and those in need, respects and protects Allah's creation (all living beings and their ecosystems), remains fair to all humans (regardless of their kinship), lives in peace with all his/her peaceful neighbors and stands up against injustice and oppression to his/her brothers and sisters. I am sure there is more to add to that. But that is what we can simply summarize...
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Post by Kefalus on Feb 3, 2008 4:48:46 GMT -5
Good Muslim is a person who worships only one God, competes in good deeds, helps the poor and those in need, respects and protects Allah's creation (all living beings and their ecosystems), remains fair to all humans (regardless of their kinship), lives in peace with all his/her peaceful neighbors This part sounds good. What about this part? What kind of injustice?
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Post by yahadj on Feb 3, 2008 9:41:31 GMT -5
Injustice part is not that confusing. It is the global understanding for justice. If you witness that somebody deprives somebody from his rights. You help the sufferer to bring the opressor/agressor to justice. Your duty is to testify as witness whenever asked. You don't run. You don't get scared no matter who is opressor. Once you witness injustice and you don't do anything for that you are part of that opression. That is how Allah tests all his servants. There is no guaranty ticket to heaven. Caliming yourself Muslim is not enough. You have to prove yourself worthy. You are tested constantly...
Muslims has the duty to restore and maintain the order and harmony of the society, disrupted by some greedy and agressive individuals.
Listen, Muslims are not supposed to become like monks in monastery . If somebody slaps them into their cheek they are not supposed to turn the other. Unless they deserved it. Muslims have the right to respond in equal way since no opressor should go away with their acts of intentional agression. But unintentional acts are different. Forgiveness is high value.
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Post by jerryspringer on Feb 3, 2008 11:31:06 GMT -5
Many monks were great knights that conquered other lands. One such example was the Danish monk, Absalon. He wasn't like those crusaders, though...
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Post by ioan on Feb 3, 2008 14:56:25 GMT -5
I feel kind of relieved and kind of sad at the same time. Sad cause the Turks are our neighbours (that most of the times have acted as good neighbours after the fall of the Ottoman empire) and have tried alot to join EU, also they have made significant attempts to become more democratic and to increase the protection of human rights within their vast country. They are very close to us, espesially to the Balkan people, yet they remain very different. And unfortunately I think the main reason is the religion. Especially now that the religion is making this big come back. The laws that would alow religious dresses in the Turkish universities are not looked upon with pleasure in EU, I m sure. Add to this how big Turkey is, add the Turkish problems in the east with the Kurds and you ll find the answer why Turkey wont be a member soon. I also think that EU should stop expanding in the borders of Europe and I also think that Turkey is kind of European country, but its not just that and maybe its much more Middle Eastern country (and probably is mostly a Bolkan country). However, I think that if Turkey doesnt enter EU, we should have a very very close cooperation with them. Maybe they should join the European Economic Area (a very close cooperation between EU and Iceland, Norway and Lihtenshtain).
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Post by chalkedon on Feb 3, 2008 15:04:33 GMT -5
I want them turkey in the eu... it will bring constantinople closer to us without borders. it will be a mini-megali idea it would be easier for greeks to repopulate the city ( if they ever wanted to..)
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