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Post by terroreign on Apr 16, 2008 4:26:49 GMT -5
montenegro - that video i originally posted made me mad, and I wanted to show it to the serbs of the forum, so we can talk about how this ideology is wrong.
Notice how I do not call serbs evil-doers or anything of the sort, I just believe their popular ideology is wrong and isn't helpful for them.
Deucaon - Serbs were always a small narod, do you have a problem with this?
And its a fact that King Nikola was good friends with the Turkish sultan, letters are there to prove it. We might have been enemies, but we respected eachother.
What kind of serbophobic views, pray tell?
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Post by terroreign on Apr 16, 2008 4:51:39 GMT -5
Theres a different between wanting to be great by way of moral and respectable ways, or through lies and arrogance.
Heres a quote that sums up quite nicely the serbian mentality that prevails:
"u njiha je sve srpsko srpski čojk, srpsko dijete, srpska žena, srpska zastava , srpski most, srpska trava, srpska kafa, srpska salata, srpski cuko ,srpska maca, samo još i srpsko g*vno im treba."
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Post by Novus Dis on Apr 16, 2008 5:10:12 GMT -5
What kind of serbophobic views, pray tell? Don't act stupid, you know exactly what I am talking about. But then they became arrogant, attacked neighboring peoples, stole others' histories, claimed other peoples as their own, assimilation, myth-making, ect. And all the way to the end, where they conclude by saying they are the victims, and the rest are traitors. Many people, many serbs, must sometimes think to themselves, why are they so hated? Some may rightly think they do not deserve such hatred and its their enemies' fault, but then think again... These defamatory comments have no place here.
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Post by montenegrodeki on Apr 16, 2008 5:11:01 GMT -5
Terro you do realise we Montenegrins are hated too by many people, Montenegro was allied with serbia through all the balkans conflicts, so what ever they have to answer for so do we!
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Post by terroreign on Apr 16, 2008 5:31:10 GMT -5
Who are we hated by deki? As of now we are hated mostly by Serbs from Montenegro, who deny the existance of a montenegrin ethnic group. And maybe a few malsor albanians who want tuzi to be a municipality.
Besides that I can't think of any enemies.
We WERE hated by the croatians after dubrovnik, but the hate was short-lived.
We were not allied with serbia when they annexed us in 1918, or in WW2 when we strived for an independent Montenegro and allied with the Italians against the chetniks who wanted to take our country.
We were not allied with Serbia during Srebrenica nor Vukovar, nor Kosovo.
Old Montenegrins(Katunska Nahija) rallied against this back in 1991 and kept their pride and obraz.
I dont understand you, do you believe that if you disagree with greater-serb ideology, that means you hate serbs?
I freely say I do not hate serbs, I love serbs like Dzindzic, Cedomir Jovanovic, Vlade Divac, they're great people and true people with hearts and minds.
But I'm not going to keep quite and stay ambiguous like you do about the topic of serbian nationalism.
Deaceon - Defamatory is not a word bre
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Post by montenegrodeki on Apr 16, 2008 5:36:41 GMT -5
Some of the biggest Chetniks and people who are indited by the Hague for war crimes are Montenegrin, like Arkan,Milosevic and Karadzic, in the second world war Djuic was second in command of the Chetniks and he was Montenegrin! If Serbia has anything to answer for or to be hated for then so do we, its a fact!
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Post by terroreign on Apr 16, 2008 5:46:58 GMT -5
deki - those three men did not fight for montenegro, they fought for serbia, I don't care for their origins.
Why do you think of them, why don't you think of true heroes like Slavko Perovic
From what nahija? I bet you not from Old Montenegro.
Montenegrins fought against the chetniks, and in turn against djuic himself.
Why are you citing people that we fought against?
Its like serbs being proud of Vuk Brankovic...
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Post by montenegrodeki on Apr 16, 2008 6:00:34 GMT -5
I don't know really where you are coming from, i cannot ever recall Montenegrins fighting Serbs, never on a large scale anyway, Slavko Perovic is just a politician not a Hero. Not that it makes any difference but im from Old Montenegro katunska nahija, I am a proud Montenegrin and i am happy to have my own country, i just don't get you views on Serbs and your pro Albanian Rhetoric.
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Post by Novus Dis on Apr 16, 2008 6:07:06 GMT -5
Deaceon - Defamatory is not a word bre Really?Montenegrins fought against the chetniks, and in turn against djuic himself. The only Montenegrins that Chetniks fought against were either partisans or fascists. Neither group can claim to be the representatives of Montenegro or Montenegrins.
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Post by terroreign on Apr 16, 2008 6:10:45 GMT -5
You dont know where Im coming from? Have you ever heard of the Zelenasi or the Lovcen Brigade?
Montenegrins, especially in Old Montenegro, did not want to join serbia nor yugoslavia, instead wanted to stay as an independent european state.
They fought during WW2 against the Chetniks and Partizans for a Independent Montenegro.
Slavko Perovic was a Politician and a Hero. You really need to get your facts straight because the way you're talking is as if karadzic and milosevic were heroes? Please bro, dont do this...
I truely think you would get my views on serbs if you just read my posts with an open mind, and if you don't understand something, ask me.
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Post by terroreign on Apr 16, 2008 6:16:05 GMT -5
Hehe, never really heard that word used much before, I originally thought you meant inflammatory. VERY VERY untrue, wow so untrue I think I will puke www.montenegro-canada.com/articles/article/2509423/38140.htmPlease my brother read this statement from someone who personally knew Krsto Zrnov Popovic (Leader of the Zelenasi, Ethnic Montenegrin freedom fighters) And spoke the absolute truth of this man, who's history was manipulated by the other balkan powers and forgotten.
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Post by CiKoLa on Apr 16, 2008 6:16:09 GMT -5
According to UN reports there are an estimated 6.5 million serbs in serbia. And not the 10 million u speak of.
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Post by Novus Dis on Apr 16, 2008 6:16:23 GMT -5
You dont know where Im coming from? Have you ever heard of the Zelenasi or the Lovcen Brigade? How many soldiers in those outfits? They fought during WW2 against the Chetniks and Partizans for a Independent Montenegro. So they were Italian puppets.
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Post by terroreign on Apr 16, 2008 6:19:29 GMT -5
Several thousand
No, loose allies
Krsto was the Leader of the Zelenasi
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Post by osmano on Apr 16, 2008 6:20:16 GMT -5
Many people, many serbs, must sometimes think to themselves, why are they so hated? Some may rightly think they do not deserve such hatred and its their enemies' fault, but then think again... The simple answer is, ignorance and arrogance. I wish more serbs to follow the ideology of Cedomir Jovanovic and not this crazy bastard who is featured in this link. Seselju majmune sidji sa grane ide Alija nosi ti banane
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Post by zgembo on Apr 16, 2008 6:23:37 GMT -5
Romanija suze lije, sto Bin Laden Srbin nije
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Post by terroreign on Apr 16, 2008 6:23:51 GMT -5
Idi on do mekka hahahaha
Ali na realnost, seselj je porijeklom hrvat i pobjegao od njih i rekao da su njegov preci bili izrodi lol
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Post by montenegrodeki on Apr 16, 2008 6:25:08 GMT -5
I wasn't saying that Karadzic, Milosevic or Arkan are heroes, i was just stating the fact they are Montenegrin, as are hundreds of the soldiers who fought alongside Serbia In world War 2 and in the last balkan conflict. What i am trying to say is you have good and bad everywhere, to some they are Heroes to some they are Murderer's, but the fact is Montenegro on the whole has always fought alongside Serbia.
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Post by terroreign on Apr 16, 2008 6:26:39 GMT -5
deki - the fact is that serbia and turkey have been together longer than montenegro and serbia.
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Post by montenegrodeki on Apr 16, 2008 6:28:12 GMT -5
Ok mate if you say so, i give up!
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