CiKoLa
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Post by CiKoLa on Apr 26, 2008 23:57:56 GMT -5
^^ U just contradicted yourself.
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Anthologic
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Post by Anthologic on Apr 28, 2008 3:22:06 GMT -5
You can't prove that.
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Post by Novus Dis on Apr 28, 2008 6:49:05 GMT -5
^^ U just contradicted yourself. How so?
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CiKoLa
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Post by CiKoLa on Apr 28, 2008 7:21:04 GMT -5
^^well if i have to explain it to u then ur really even dumber than i thought.
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Post by Novus Dis on Apr 29, 2008 8:10:40 GMT -5
^^well if i have to explain it to u then ur really even dumber than i thought. I didn't contradict myself. Either explain yourself or consider yourself the "dumber" one between the two of us.
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MiG
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Post by MiG on Apr 29, 2008 22:19:04 GMT -5
Guys, you should keep in mind that those people killed in WW2 and after WW2 were branded as "Enemies of the State".
Can I ask you guys one simple question. Name me one thing Yugoslavia was good for?
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CiKoLa
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Post by CiKoLa on Apr 29, 2008 23:03:54 GMT -5
^^ suppressing the basic human rights of its citizens.
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MiG
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Post by MiG on Apr 30, 2008 12:46:10 GMT -5
^ Come on dude, can't you come up with something positive?
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Post by Novus Dis on Apr 30, 2008 16:19:35 GMT -5
I cant really think of any good the communists brought to Yugoslavia that didn't have major repercussions.
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Post by radovic on May 1, 2008 20:48:15 GMT -5
^ Come on dude, can't you come up with something positive? He can't he is a pure ustasha and he hates everything Yugoslavia represented.
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Post by radovic on May 1, 2008 20:49:23 GMT -5
What was the name of the serbian terrorist group who framed a group of Croats in Australia in the 1970's only to be exposed on Australian tv later on? Non-existant. Why don't you provide sometihng to back up your claims?
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Post by radovic on May 1, 2008 20:51:31 GMT -5
What was the name of the serbian terrorist group who framed a group of Croats in Australia in the 1970's only to be exposed on Australian tv later on? What goes on in your imagination should stay in your imagination. Had he dones what he did he would have killed Tito and some 10 or so top communists with hundreds of innocent serbs. The simple fact is he (Nikola Kavaja) is a terrorist and deserves no respect. He pushed a German soldier down a well when he was a kid. He fought against the anti-Serb communist dictatorship. For that he already has my respect. As for the Usce plot, the only "innocents" he would have killed would have been communist bureaucrats. ^ The communist party occupied about four of the floors in the building. The rest were occupied by innocent workers. So, you should stop respecting a terrorist.
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Post by radovic on May 1, 2008 20:54:25 GMT -5
I don't find it surprising that the majority of those groups were foreign based Croatian. What about that Trot organization? Is it actually a group or a description of a Trotskyist group? Croats and Slovenes were disenfranchised ever since 1918 in Yugoslavia. Certainly the actions taken by these groups were extreme but I wouldn't call it blind ambition and I don't think its a handy excuse to detract from the atrocities the Yugoslav state has perpetrated on its own people it was supposed to govern. Radovic, I do believe, particularly in the Croatian case, that many of these foreign based Croats funded the 90s war effort. It would not be surprising if those same Croats had ties to these groups, at least in the past. ^ They did. One of the reasons the Krajina Serbs refused to have any dealings with Tudjman was because he used neo-Ustashe from Australia and Canada in his campaign. These were people who called for the establishment of concentration camps and killing all half-croats -- I don't think Tudjman had these views since his daughter married a Serb and his grandchildren were half-Serb.
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Post by radovic on May 1, 2008 20:55:51 GMT -5
The civil war fought in Yugoslavia during WW2 was between Partisans, Chetniks and the Ustashe. The latter two groups lost which is why some among them never accepted the loss and perpetuated these terrorist attacks. It was much less among Serbs because the Treaty of Vis in 1944 was a peace deal of sorts between Partisans and Chetniks (many Chetniks received a pardon and joined the Partizans). Amnesty was given to the Ustasha as well. Most of the Chetniks under Draza fought to the death or died from disease. The other groups who called themselves Chetniks were either killed in 1944 by Draza for being collaborators or ran off in 1945. Any Chetnik who was a royalist should have joined the Partisans after the Vis agreement since the king himself only recognized the Partisans after that.
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CiKoLa
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Post by CiKoLa on May 1, 2008 21:38:49 GMT -5
That uis just utter rubbish and outright slander. I suppose u have some facts/links on this. The only thing they called on was an end to Croatia's tyranny within the shackles of yugoslavia, an end to Communism, and the establishment of an independent democratic and european Croatia.
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Post by Novus Dis on May 2, 2008 5:21:34 GMT -5
Any Chetnik who was a royalist should have joined the Partisans after the Vis agreement since the king himself only recognized the Partisans after that. Did the partisans re-establish the Yugoslav monarchy?
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Post by radovic on May 2, 2008 7:59:15 GMT -5
That uis just utter rubbish and outright slander. I suppose u have some facts/links on this. The only thing they called on was an end to Croatia's tyranny within the shackles of yugoslavia, an end to Communism, and the establishment of an independent democratic and european Croatia. Read the Impossible Country. It gives an account of what the diaspora croats from Australia and Canada were doing. It also deals with how Serbs from Croatia were the chief financiers of the SRS. Furthermore the chief campaign manager of the HDZ in 1990 was an Australian croat who during a campaign event said "Jasenovac's job has not completed." Yeah, there's not much room for ministerpretation for what that means.
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