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Post by radovic on Nov 20, 2007 14:20:42 GMT -5
Abkhazia threatens to follow Kosovo's lead 20 November 2007 Abkhazia will refuse conflict resolution mediation services from countries that recognize Kosovo independence.
Abkhazian Foreign Minister Sergey Shamba, whose entity seeks independence from Georgia, made the announcement on Monday.
"Countries that apply openly cynical double standards in recognizing Kosovo independence while setting obstacles to deny our own, will not be able to take part in the Georgia-Abkhazia negotiating process in the role of mediator," Shamba said in an interview with the Itar-Tass news agency.
"We will discontinue the mediation services of such countries," said the foreign minister of the breakaway Abkhazian republic.
At the same time, he reiterated that the Kosovo prime minister was openly threatening to declare independence after December 10.
"That would lead to serious consequences," Shamba warned.
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Post by vinjak on Nov 20, 2007 16:37:09 GMT -5
And so it begins.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Nov 20, 2007 18:10:40 GMT -5
I think abkhazia should also follow suit if kosovo has been given its statehood, the rule has been broken so why not take advantage.
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Post by MiG on Nov 20, 2007 20:38:53 GMT -5
^ Funny how many say that Kosovo will not be the stepping stone to future conflicts, and a reason, but here those people are proven wrong. (Not naming any names)
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Post by Novi Pazar on Nov 20, 2007 22:09:00 GMT -5
^ Dude, you've gotta be dumb that the kosovo problem will never be used as precedant. Kosovo may infact destroy the UN!.
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Post by MiG on Nov 20, 2007 22:24:13 GMT -5
^ I never said it wasn't. I said it was. I always said that. It was others that said otherwise.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Nov 20, 2007 23:26:19 GMT -5
^ Dude, l know you haven't, l meant to say if someone thinks that this won't be used as precedant, then they got to be stupid.
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Post by MiG on Nov 21, 2007 0:17:27 GMT -5
^ Oke, true say haha.
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Post by albanesehoney on Nov 21, 2007 0:37:50 GMT -5
" Abkhazia will refuse conflict resolution mediation services from countries that recognize Kosovo independence. "
That's ok. Maybe this Muslim, Sergey Shamba can then go to Chechnya and help them break away too. ;D I'm sure Putin would like that alot. lololol
BTW, they can also refuse any loans or aid from these same nations, when something big hits them. Like Russia's army, when these people finally decide to secede from Russia. lollolol
"Kosovo may infact destroy the UN!. "
Wow, didn't know Albanians had that kind of affect on the world. lolol BTW, the UN lost all its credibility a few months after its birth, considering it's orginal mantra was peaceful reconciliation of warring parties, self determination and territorial integrity. In 48 it sanctioned the state of Israel on Palestinian land, in 53 it authorized and took military action against N. Korea, with all its meddling in the Congo in the 60's, the UN can be directly blamed for the disaster there and of Lumumba's assassination. Let's not sell it short, the UN did nothing..absolutely NOTHING to stop the genocides in Cambodia, Rwanda, Bosnia and now Darfur. The worst thing about these genocides is the fact that the UN was in these nations with their stated purpose to prevent those disasters. The UN reps and peacekeepers just stood by and watched the people get their heads hacked off or stood there like little worms letting the Serbs tie their hands to poles as they watched Muslim men and boys get bullets through their heads by Serbian soldiers of the JNA. The UN was always a piece of *^% worthless to people and a tool of anyone who knows how to use its members' politics. Just like how Serbs were in favor of the resolution embargoing arms to all former repub. of Yugo. They knew this would exactly help their goals. And they used it to further their malevolent agenda against the X citizens of Yugoslavia.
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Post by Duke John on Nov 21, 2007 2:53:53 GMT -5
How can Abkhazia be compared to Dardania? Before the 90´s Abkhazias population was 500,000! some 48% were Georgians and only 17% were Abkhazians and 16% were Armenians and Russians (which are not originally locals but brought from turkey,Russians naturally also foreign buy roots to the region) some about 250,000 georgians were driven out from Abkhazia buy Russian/Armenian and Abkhazians, now there are only 60,000 Abkhazians! and they are comparing their selfs with 2 million Dardanians with totally different situation and history!? Thous Abkhaz people should think carefully what they are doing,they are going agains their own brothers with the big help of russians and armenians which are not even native to the region!.
btw there are no muslim Abkhazians! Muslim Abhkazians were driven out very long ago!.
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Post by Arxileas on Nov 21, 2007 5:56:38 GMT -5
Worrying times indeed for the Balkans and E.U it' self indeed.
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Post by Duke John on Nov 21, 2007 6:27:42 GMT -5
Worrying times indeed for the Balkans and E.U it' self indeed. Yep! specially for the enemies of Albanians!.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Nov 21, 2007 18:12:17 GMT -5
Good to see your around again !. It will ruin the UN and it will start a domino effect across the globe, kosovo is not a special case as the western powers are suggesting.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Nov 21, 2007 18:14:44 GMT -5
"How can Abkhazia be compared to Dardania? Before the 90´s Abkhazias population was 500,000!"
Population does not determine anything at all.
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Post by Duke John on Nov 22, 2007 0:16:04 GMT -5
"Population does not determine anything at all. The Abkhazian case is very different from Dardanian case,i have studied about Caucasia and its people,its the ruskis who are behind the whole thing,all the Caucasian peoples are related to each others more closely than balkan people are,there are many Georgians who descend from Abkhazians,they have the same root,the ruskis and armenians boost the whole situation in Abkhazia,which are no natives to the whole d**n area.
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Post by zgembo on Nov 22, 2007 1:56:13 GMT -5
Albanians have committed more ethnic cleansing in Kosovo than Abkhazians could do in a thousand years.
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Post by Duke John on Nov 22, 2007 2:07:13 GMT -5
Albanians have committed more ethnic cleansing in Kosovo than Abkhazians could do in a thousand years. lol,that was lame mapko! arent the Serbs famoust of ethnic cleansings?
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Post by meltdown711 on Nov 22, 2007 2:31:38 GMT -5
If the Georgians of Abkhazia were allowed to return, the number would start to go in their favor slowly... cant say the same for the Serbs of Kosova. Even if all of them return...
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Post by depletedreasons on Nov 22, 2007 5:46:25 GMT -5
Now Russia supports the break away republic Abkhazia?
That is interesting since it was the Russian Empire who executed a deliberate genocide on those people in 1860s. That is the reason why, bulk of survived Abkhazians (300.000-400.000) lives in Turkey instead of Abkhazia.
I think Russia must give up her extremist policies in Caucasus. Russia has already executed massive genocides in the region, and as a consequence of those, there is now an Armenian-Azeri, Armenian-Turkish, Chechen-Russian, Circassian-Russian conflicts there. In that regard, there is no need to add an Akbhazian-Georgian conflict in the area for the sake of Russian Imperialism (Extremism).
What Caucasian people really like to see in Caucasus is the end of the Russian occupation that has been going on since 1860s.
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Post by zgembo on Nov 22, 2007 14:24:32 GMT -5
Luma, Albanians invented ethnic cleansing actually (earliest uses of that word referred to systemic Albanian pressures on the Kosovo Serb population to leave during SFRJ). How do you think Kosovo became 90% Albanian after being majority Serb for centuries? The combination of Muslim Albanian racism combined with the backward features of their society which result in economic hardships too has nearly eliminated the autochthonous Christian population of Kosovo.
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