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Post by wbb on Nov 24, 2012 5:26:51 GMT -5
Are you normal? Gagauz are turks, stop making fantasy here. Many gagauz preffer to be with turkey than russia.
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Post by wbb on Nov 24, 2012 5:23:55 GMT -5
Kisjeno sounds more original.
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Post by wbb on Nov 24, 2012 5:18:28 GMT -5
By what logic you mean that no one is indigenous to europe? What about the albanians and the greeks or the basque?
I dont know anything about sudtirol issue but Gagauzia already did proclaimed independence during the Moldovan civil war in the 90s, but then vlach had to accept the autonomy of gagauzia just to make sure that the gagauz turks abandoned their independence idea. Surely the vlach has no other option to this, either autonomy or independence. Moldova cant even annex gagauzia. So the good news is that gagauzia is under our turks relative's hand, and of course back by Turkey. Turkey is contributing their infrastructure, and many other things.
Catalonians are already favouring independence from spain, there's a big chance for them to succeed, due to the spanish economic crises. Only time will tell.
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Post by wbb on Nov 24, 2012 5:02:56 GMT -5
Thats what Euro-Atlantic alliance is all about, they simply paint anyone who is not a puppet to their ideology as bad guys.
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Post by wbb on Nov 22, 2012 1:16:43 GMT -5
Rubbish, romanian developed from Latin that was spoken in Hungary. Its already proven that Vlach language of Greece and other balkans states, is quite different to that of romanian or so-called daco-romanian as you call it. Different dialect? So is Italian, Spanish, Portuguese is a different Romance dialect of Romanian as well? No its a different Romance language, get your facts right!!! The Romanians were Hungarian elite, they served as border guards in Muntenian border, from any invasion from neighbouring countries. Its correct the romanians turned csoban overnight and started speaking broken latin. You know how many hungarians had turned to into csoban overnight, even today many hungarians turned into csoban because living in a city is too expensive for them. The Vlachs were Turkic tribe living around Bashkiria todays Bashkortostan, known as "Bulaq", Ulac or Illac. The fact is Vlach people in reality were Huns, coming from Bulaq tribe. Romanians are Turkic, not Romans, nor Dacians nor Thracian. books.google.com.au/books?The language of Pascatir is the same as that of the Hungarians, and they are shepherds without any towns whatever, and on the west this country confines on Greater Bulgaria. And beside Pascatir are the Illac, which is the same word as Blac, but the Tartars do not know how to pronounce (the letter) B, and from them come those who are in the land of Assan. www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Pascatir
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Post by wbb on Nov 21, 2012 7:36:52 GMT -5
Here you go, Romanians check this out. You guys will love it. ;D
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Post by wbb on Nov 21, 2012 6:14:46 GMT -5
Hey Romanian retard, Latin was an official language of Hungary. Thats why Turkic-Cumanians the so-called wannabe Romans adopted the latin from Hungarians in Cumania. Romanians are just a bunch of Latinised Cuman Turks mixed with Hungarians and Bulgarians. Even the biggest Romanian hero who founded the Wallachian state was a Cuman.
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Post by wbb on Nov 21, 2012 6:08:09 GMT -5
I remember 1 time, i went to Beloiannis a greek village in Hungary and met this vlach guy there, you could even tell that he was vlach by his last name....Vlachokyriakos or Vlachokryiakos, cant remember exactly how its spelt, yep he was a 1 typical greek. He even had his greek symbol tattooed to his left arm, nothing romanian about him. Even he said that he's got nothing to do with romanians, i ask him. He said he thinks romanians are an idiot for calling vlach as romanians. Even my grandfather was a vlach from greece, not romanian at all but grrrrreeeeeekkkkkkk. I got vlach origin, i spit on romania and their ugly pissant flag. VLACH IS GREEK, nothing else.
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Post by wbb on Nov 21, 2012 5:22:41 GMT -5
bs, if the romanians hasnt adopted latin from the hungarians, then who they adopted from, the santa clause? Before the Magyarization, the official language of Hungarian kingdom was latin, many hungarians were fluent latin speakers cause of roman catholicism. Hungarians used to own all Wallachia, but its wasnt called wallachia back then, it was Cumania, there the Cumans, and other Turkic people adopted the latin language as the language of Catholicism and Orthodoxism, otherwise they would be speaking slavic thats for bloody sure. The same how Bulgars adopted the slavic language. It was Hungary who promoted the latin language, not the stupid romans, nor dacians, nor tititata greeks.
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Post by wbb on Nov 20, 2012 0:47:46 GMT -5
because we voted for him, simple.
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Post by wbb on Nov 20, 2012 0:40:28 GMT -5
Thats bs, the Romans were the one that were invading and colonizing other people's land. Hungarians werent colonizing anything but settling there in a sparsly populated lands. Like what Knezlazar said was right, hungarians are indigenous to szekelyfold, thats is one of the reason why romanians tried to ethnically cleanse them out from there because the truths hits them hard. You guys were just a bunch of stupid wanna-latin speaking, bulgarians, hungarians, cumans, khazars, tatar turks who wasnt proud of their turkic Hunnic identity, so you guys adopted the latin language and started to identify yourselves as Romans, Vlachs, Romanians but really you guys arent really romans at all.
Let me tell you straight out arsehole, first of all we are not Mongols, nor the asiatic looking turkic people were even mongols. Hey the slavs and the goths originated from the same place in asia where turkic people lived, so are they slavs and goths are mongols too? Instead of making a mockery out of us, start investigating your own blood, because even your blood may have Turkic genetic in it and no roman traces at all, you latin-speaking turks. Romanians are exactly the same with the Hazara of Afghanistan, the hazara werent persians at all but turkic, since then they adopted the persian language and call themselves persian, same goes with the romanians, they adopted the stupid latin language, the worst language in the world, when they were turks. If Hungary decided to ban the latin language, romanians wouldnt be speaking latin nor even identify themselves as romans. They would be Hungarians, Bulgarians, Cumans, and blah blah blah turks.
Same goes with Moldova and Aromanians, latin wannabe retard. Szekelyland is the Hungarian version of Gaza.
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Post by wbb on Aug 18, 2012 8:06:35 GMT -5
even Armenians were magyarised, there are about 74-30,000 armenians currently living in hungary today, and many of them are very assimilated into the hungarian society, they even lost their mother tounge and speak hungarian now. Even their name was magyarised, one such example "magyarjan", marozsan. Ferenc Szalasi, Erika Marozsan, Gabor Agardy, Erno Kiss, Vilmos Lazar, Miklos Horthy, are few example of those armenians or people of armenian origin who became magyarised.
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Post by wbb on Aug 18, 2012 7:03:13 GMT -5
Hellboy, your exactly right about this comment. The current Hungarians are mostly magyarized people, only 20% are real magyars. Not even Cumans or Paloc are real magyars but they do have more magyar origin than any of those magyarized people. The magyar gypsies do have magyar origin as well because they inter-mixed with real magyars and they lived in hungary for over 500 years, they are much more older than any magyarized people. That why magyarized people often get very jealous of the gypsies, cause gypsies are more magyars than them. Its very common for real magyars to marry with gypsies because of their shepherd culture compare those magyarised who live in cities. The real magyars arent city people, they normally live in mountains, villages and pastoral lands, very similar to the vlach. Their culture are even more stricter than city people.
Alot of real magyars before they arrived to europe were muslims, they originated from Volga Bulgaria and other countries where islam was dominant. This is way before the ottomans. Many magyar muslims were merchants, and mercenaries for Arpad.
Uz, where did i say that islam is a nationality? Nowhere.
Not all magyars were pagans, infact some of them were. The Huns, Avars, Scythians, Jasz and all other indigenous people of hungary were pagans, the magyars mostly wasnt pagans.
Well that is according to your philosophical views called scepticism not being supported by any real evidence other than a dogmatic pseudo-science on magyar's history invented by far rights movement or worse.
I mean it by original magyars from asia, not those magyarised magyars who converted to magyar identity without having any genetical relation to them during the process of magyarization. Many people who were magyarized arent real magyars, they were slavs, germans, latinic, french, walloons, jews, gypsies, greeks, etc,etc. Of course there are gypsies who have real magyar genetic on them due to inter-marriage but many of them were magyarised also.
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Post by wbb on Aug 17, 2012 4:18:42 GMT -5
Nothing much i been busy in my life, working and study at TAFE. Also i go on Facebook often, because there's more magyar christians and muslims there, that's another reason why i've been inactive.
Nah not for 2 years. Last time i heard from him was in Erepublik social game, when yeni and i were playing ehungary, since then when the new version of erepublik came out, i stopped playing.
Im gonna link a website about Magyar muslims and it's history, written by a turkish historian, he's a quite famous in hungary especially some hungarian nationalist website even posted his theory in it. His theory is quite interesting, he knows more about magyar muslims than i do.
That is true, but im talking about magyars before they settled in karpat medence, of course there was magyar muslims settled through out the hungary and they were majority in some states of hungary before Christianization came into effect.
There was some pagan magyars thats true, however im not sure if rovas and szekely religion was magyar, its more like Hunnic and Avaric. The Huns and Avars were already in Hungary before the arrival of Magyars. If we talk about hungarians practicing paganism that would be the Huns and Avars but Magyars which is the latest hungarians were more like turkic and muslims or even both.
As you can on the map i posted, the Magyars were around the border of the islamic caliphate, there's 1-100% chance they can into contact with islam. The Avars of course different story.
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Post by wbb on Aug 13, 2012 11:47:34 GMT -5
Really?, o you poor thing, you need to study the history more harder instead of following your dogmatic philosophy called islamophobia. The Magyar muslims were the people who contributed alot for Arpad and his tribe, they fought for Arpad against the filthy Khazars and many other enemies of the Magyars when they arrived to Karpat medence. You are even carrying an Arpad sav, which invented by no one other than the magyar muslims for Arpad. Yes there was magyar pagans, but thats havent been proven if they were in majority, however i dont deny that there wasnt any magyar pagans, there was but denying magyar muslims is quite ridiculous. Oszki bacsi, do you know really how many hungary there was? several, you think hungary was just basically in karpat medence and not somewhere else as well? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The Magyars were on the border with the islamic caliphate, this is proven by history but your philosophy hasnt. lol ;D
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Post by wbb on Jan 6, 2012 7:33:36 GMT -5
No shit, they are. Atleast looking at their legs and touching their hole is the best. loool
Its seems, the romanian girls kept their Hungarian-Tatar-Cuman genetic unlike Hungarian girls from hungary.
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Post by wbb on Dec 29, 2010 5:35:19 GMT -5
Ibrahim Müteferrika or Turkish: Ýbrahim Müteferrika (1674 – 1745) was a Transylvanian-born Ottoman polymath: a publisher, printer, courtier, diplomat, man of letters, astronomer, historian, historiographer, Islamic scholar and theologian, sociologist,[1] and the first Muslim to run a printing press with movable Arabic type.[2] His volumes, printed in Istanbul and using custom-made fonts, are occasionally referred to as "Turkish incunabula".[2][3] Muteferrika, whose last name derived from his employment as a müteferrika, head of the household, under Sultan Ahmed III and during the Tulip Era, was also a geographer, astronomer, and philosopher.[2] Born in Kolozsvár (present-day Cluj-Napoca, Romania), he was an ethnic Hungarian Unitarian who converted to Islam.[2][4] His original Hungarian language name is unknown.[2] Following a 1726 report on the efficiency of the new system, which he drafted and presented simultaneously to Grand Vizier Nevþehirli Damat Ýbrahim Pasha, the Grand Mufti, and the clergy, and a later request submitted to Sultan Ahmed, he received permission to publish non-religious books (despite opposition from some calligraphers and religious leaders).[2] Muteferrika's press published its first book in 1729, and, by 1743, issued 17 works in 23 volumes (each having between 500 and 1,000 copies).[2][3] Among the works published by Müteferrika were historical and generically scientific works, as well as Katip Çelebi's world atlas Cihannüma (loosely translated as The Mirror of the World or the World Seer).[2] In the appendices that he added to his printing, Müteferrika discussed the Copernican view of astronomy in detail, with references to relatively up-to-date scientific arguments for and against it. In this regard, he is considered one of the first people to properly introduce heliocentrism to the Ottoman readers.[5] After 1742, however, Turkish printing activities were discontinued and an attempt by the British diplomat James Mario Matra, motivated by the exorbitant prices for manuscript books, to reestablish a press in Constantinople was aborted in 1779.[6] In his account, Matra refers to the strong opposition of the scribes which Müteferrika's enterprise had to face earlier: A Press had been set up here about sixty years ago in the turbulent reign of Ahmed III but those who maintained themselves by copying of Books, apprehending with reason that their trade would be totally ruined, were so loud in their clamours as to alarm the Seraglio, and as they were supported by a seditious Corps of Janizarys, the Sultan apprehending what really did after happen, that as he mounted the throne by one insurrection, he might be tumbled from it by another, gave way to their complaints, and suppressed the Press, before anything better than the Koran, Sunna, and some trifling books of Mathematicks had been struck off.[6] A statue of Müteferrika can be found just outside the Grand Bazaar in Istanbul[7] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibrahim_Muteferrika
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Post by wbb on Dec 23, 2010 8:47:23 GMT -5
someone told me that there are over 2,000 Hungarian words of Turkish origin, so this is quite a bit of a competition between Ugricist and Turkist. Finn-Ugric theory is in crisis since they havent been able explain alot things but they in a dogmatic power in the field of Hungarian history. I have also found more geographer than just Ibn Rusta. The world most known man is Ibn Battuta from Morocco, even he describe Magyars as Turks. He is also appear to be a great Islamic scholar as well who consider Ibn Taymiyya (the father of Islamic extremism) as screw-loose.
Then we got Said Nursi, a Kurdish Islamic scholar who wrote Hungarians as Turks. I gotta send some links on it.
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Post by wbb on Dec 11, 2010 3:59:01 GMT -5
i dont think that Boris killed and persecute people as much as Serbs did. But i do know that when Montenegro was under Serbia, they werent really allowed to consider themselves Montenegrins but Serbs. I never recognised Montenegrins being Serbs but Montenegrins. Montenegro was a separate nation from Serbia when Austria-Hungary occupied it. But after that Montenegro was annexed to Serbia for nearly 90-100 years, but im glad that Montenegro has been revived as Montenegro again.
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