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Post by tileiohmaleas on Nov 15, 2007 17:22:25 GMT -5
"After Talat's radio and TV address the celebrations in the TRNC kicked off with a 21 gun salute."
Aimed at RoC no doubt.
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Post by tileiohmaleas on Nov 6, 2007 18:40:44 GMT -5
Janny, why are you so defencive ? Seems like your gonna errupt any second.
Just relax, the whole world knows who the Turks were and what they became, and what little they have accomplished with their late empires and how many other countries they have pissed off in the past.
"Turks mixed with other people just like everybody else did, not more, not less. There is nothing despising here. "
hehe not more not less. You guys are like a lucky dip. Stick your hand and pick a number.
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Post by tileiohmaleas on Nov 6, 2007 7:43:34 GMT -5
Some violent and unconscious people who had been ruling your forefathers (and many others) for centuries?
Yeh and what did they accomplish in those centuries ? Not much, and the "many others" will vouch for that.
At the end of the day, we all can just wait and see what happens with the next report.
Sounds weird way of despising your self.
Despising himself ? hes not the one that DOESNT look like a Mongol. You yourslef look like an Arab or Med most probably.
So whos despising themselves ? LoL wierdo.
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Post by tileiohmaleas on Oct 27, 2007 22:00:40 GMT -5
ohh yeh I know its old news. The whole world knew that USA helped the Turks with Cyprus.
But, to that extent where they even gave out a plan and results of actions e.t.c and the Turks blindly followed it word for word like puppets. Pathetic.
ANd they say they were there to protect a minority. More like impress a majority with their lap dog skils.
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Post by tileiohmaleas on Oct 26, 2007 20:00:43 GMT -5
US gave full backing to Turkish invasion
THE United States gave full blessing to the Turkish invasion of Cyprus, even assuring Turkey that it would "get them a solution involving one third of the island.''
This cynical US involvement is revealed in the latest batch of secret official State Department documents released for publication under the 30-year rule.
The American stand has long been known, but this is the first time that it has been confirmed so completely by an official State Department document.
This is clarified in the very first paragraph of the document which is stamped ``SECRET/EYES ONLY.''
It declares that the only conceivable settlement of the Cyprus problem "will have to rest on a de facto division of the island, whatever the form."
While admitting that the United States ``has the clout'' to prevent the invasion, the document nevertheless advises against doing so "before the fighting stops."
The document is dated August 14, 1974, the exact date of the second massive wave of the Turkish invasion of the island. It is headed: ``Memorandum for the Secretary - Cyprus Actions'' from Helmut Sonnenfeldt, one of the top State Department officials dealing with Greco-Turkish affairs.
The document even includes a map detailing the plan of action of the Turkish invasion force. This is headed ``Map done by the Bureau of Intelligence and Research projecting Turkish moves on Cyprus, August 13, 1974.''
It is worth noting that this plan was the one followed exactly by the Turkish troops, a further proof of the close American involvement in the Turkish invasion planning.
Here is the full text of the document:
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THE COUNSELOR
DEPARTMENT OF STATE
WASHINGTON
August 14, 1974
SECRET/EYES ONLY
MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY
FROM: Helmut Sonnenfeldt
SUBJECT: Cyprus Actions
You wanted some brief ideas on what we do next.
Nothing I can think of will stop the Turks now from trying to secure by force what they demanded in their ultimata. In fact, as has always been true, the only coneivable modus vivendi will have to rest on a de facto division of the island, whatever the form.
If the Turks move fast and can then be gotten to stand down, it may pre-empt Greek counteraction and then give us a chance to try for a deal. (It may also save Karamanlis).
While the Soviets can serve as a bogey, we must keep them at arms length. They cannot become the arbiter between US allies. Their interests differ drastically from ours: we want a modus vivendi between Greece and Turkey, they want a non-aligned Cyprus, preferably with Greece or Turkey or both disaffected from NATO.
Thus, we should - urgently try to contain Greek reaction; 24 hours at a time;
- bluntly tell the Turks they must stop, today, tomorrow at the latest;
- warn the Turks that Greece is rapidly moving leftward;
- send high-level US man to Athens to exert continuing direct influence on Karamanlis;
- assuming the Turks quickly take Famagusta, privately assure Turks we will get them solution involving one third of island, within some kind of federal arrangement;
- assure Greeks we will contain Turk demands and allow no additional enclaves, etc.
You should not get involved directly till the fighting stops; then you must since there is no alternative and only we have the clout.
I do not think Brussels/NATO is the place to use when the time comes. The Greeks are probably too sore at NATO and the vehicle of a ministerial meeting is awkward. Anyway, you need Ecevit and Karamanlis.
London may be unacceptable to the Turks because of Callaghan’s blast at them.
You should not shuttle.
This may mean Geneva. Washington, at the President’s initiative, would be all right but hard to get the parties to come to. Also provocative of the Russians. New York would make it difficult to keep the Russians away.
You could also try Rome.
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Post by tileiohmaleas on Jan 3, 2008 2:50:39 GMT -5
"And Costandinopole took it from Hittites.... "
yeh, but at the end of the day "And kastriotis took that emblem from Constantinople "
can you live with that ?
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Post by tileiohmaleas on Dec 14, 2007 10:14:23 GMT -5
"C'mon gays, east-greece's island belongs to Turkey and Cameria belongs to mother Illyria-Albania "
Man this guy is totally screwed. Keeps waving that Greek double headed eagle around then claims land for Albania. Geez.
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Post by tileiohmaleas on Dec 8, 2007 11:11:36 GMT -5
hehe Great Albania ? your a funny guy Janny.
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Post by tileiohmaleas on Nov 13, 2007 7:16:47 GMT -5
hehe yeh i guess.
Seems liek they dont care about the north.
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Post by tileiohmaleas on Oct 12, 2007 22:37:33 GMT -5
MORE THAN 1,000 tonnes of raw sewage has poured into the sea off Kyrenia after a wall collapsed at the local treatment plant on Wednesday. Reports late last night said that the leak had not been stopped and that 42 tonnes of untreated waste were still flowing into the sea every hour.
Details of the collapse only began to emerge yesterday, with one international environmentalist describing the situation as a disaster.
Unconfirmed reports say the entire sewerage system in the north has collapsed. The reason for the wall’s disintegration was last night still not known.
According to Turkish Cypriot channel Bayrak, one of the walls housing the Kyrenia Water Purification Installation collapsed on Wednesday afternoon, discharging approximately one thousand tones of untreated waste water into the sea.
According to AFP, Turkish Cypriot authorities have set up a crisis centre and are warning residents and tourists not to swim or fish in the harbour.
Ozgan Etaskent, a journalist from Turkish Cypriot daily newspaper Yeni Duzen, told the Cyprus Mail last night that experts and workers from Turkey had been brought in and parties were working night and day to fix the problem.
Efforts are focusing on pumping the remaining waste into the storage depots of a new treatment plant being built next to the old one.
Etaskent said authorities were hopeful the process could be completed by Monday, adding that difficulties will be exacerbated by the three-day religious festival of Eid beginning today, which sees businesses close for the duration.
The new plant is expected to be fully operational in three or four months.
Etaskent said a quarantine zone has also been set up but only in the area immediately around the damaged wall. He added that he had no knowledge of beaches being fouled by the effluent or of the pollution being carried on to any other areas by the currents.
It is expected that the spill will have dire consequences on the north’s tourism and fishing industries.
The north’s ‘Environment Minister’ Asim Vehbi and ‘Interior Minister’ Ozkan Murat, arrived at the scene to inspect the situation yesterday . Vehbi also called on locals to stop swimming or fishing in the sea.
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Post by tileiohmaleas on Oct 26, 2007 19:53:59 GMT -5
Janny. Rights of the Turks ?
How many Turks have travelled to the south to visit and returned back to the north safe ?
How many go to the south everyday for work to bring back money to feed their poor families ?
Get over it. What happeend in the past wont happen again. The troops have no use in being there. Plus America wont be needing any lapdogs to do their dirty work anytime soon.
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Post by tileiohmaleas on Oct 7, 2007 0:30:32 GMT -5
"END THE CYPRUS OCCUPATION" RESOLUTION INTRODUCED BY SEN. MENENDEZ
Legislation calls on Turkey to withdraw its 43,000 occupying troops from Republic of Cyprus
WASHINGTON - Senator Robert Menendez (D-NJ) has introduced a resolution, co-sponsored by Senator Olympia Snowe (R-ME), that calls on Turkey to withdraw its 43,000 troops from Cyprus and allow for the process of political reconciliation to move forward. The resolution would also call on the United States to influence Turkey to understand the benefits of ending the military occupation.
Turkey's desired ascension into the European Union would be greatly enhanced by such a withdrawal. In addition, the withdrawal of Turkish troops would improve regional stability, improve relations with neighboring Greece, improve relations with the United States, and help Turkey repair its reputation of being opposed to religious tolerance.
Sen. Menendez released the following statement:
"Let me be clear, there is no justification for the 43,000 Turkish troops to be in Cyprus. Millions of people have been crossing the buffer zone without incident for years. There are no military attacks and there is no need for military protection of Turkish Cypriots. In the end, these troops only serve to create military tension."
"For the U.S. to remain silent during this unjust occupation injures our moral standing internationally. And because silence is complicity, we must speak out."
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Post by tileiohmaleas on Oct 14, 2007 0:49:03 GMT -5
David, a Congolese who has been an "illegal" in Cyprus
enough said.....
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Post by tileiohmaleas on Feb 23, 2008 20:28:26 GMT -5
""The tourism sector in Turkish Cyprus is in serious crisis with 24 hotels closed and 50 more on the brink of shutting down""
""Although the total number of beds rose sharply, the occupancy rate is only 44 percent for hotels with casinos and 30 percent for those without""
Thats gotta hurt. You guys sat their spewing out so much BS about how good things are going, you forgot that people that have eyes also have brains.
Talking is up so much and saying how much your all laughing and loving life in the north, then turning around the week after and begging for money from the EU whom you so much highly dislike.
Telling us that your people are enjoying life in the North then having your leaders come out and say international embargoes are ruining his 'country'.
You guys are always talking and telling, actions speak louder than words, and rememebr whenevr the world sees your leader coming out and saying embargoes are hard on him and his people, that makes you all look like liars.
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Post by tileiohmaleas on Feb 23, 2008 20:24:01 GMT -5
Miscalculations, image hit tourism in N. Cyprus Thursday, January 10, 2008 Tourism in Turkish Cyprus needs a new strategy that leaves gambling aside. The pillar of the Turkish Republic of northern Cyprus’ economy, tourism, is on shaky ground. In recent months 24 hotels have closed down and 2,000 people have been let off. Around 50 hotels will close down after New Year’s Eve. Northern Cyprus Hoteliers Association Chairman Turhan Beydaðlý says an immediate strategy should be adopted in order to create an image of Cyprus as a country of universities and tourism ÝSMAÝL YANMAZ ISTANBUL - Referans Investments in new hotels, which have been booming in Turkish Cyprus for the last three years in the hope that the United Nations mediated plan to find a lasting peace on the divided island will be accepted, are facing serious trouble. The tourism sector in Turkish Cyprus is in serious crisis with 24 hotels closed and 50 more on the brink of shutting down. The rejection by the Greek Cypriots of the U.N. mediated peace plan is not the only reason behind the optimistic expectations for the tourism sector not materializing. The continuation of the isolation of the island despite promises from the European Union that sanctions will be eased, coupled with insufficient marketing are also considered reasons for the crisis. Around 2,000 people were laid off, as occupancy rates did not even reach 30 percent, last summer. “Tourism suffered a lot due to many mistakes made one after another. And the sector will collapse unless a new strategy is developed leaving aside gambling,” said Turhan Beydaðlý, chairman of northern Cyprus Hoteliers Association. Gambling is legal in northern Cyprus. When Turkish Cyprus voted in favor of the United Nation's plan called the Annan Plan the construction and tourism sectors experienced a boom. Yet, they have been going through troubled times lately. The buildings initially planned for sale to the British remain unsold. The hopes for direct flights between Ercan Airport and destinations in the U.K. have faded away. Although the total number of beds rose sharply, the occupancy rate is only 44 percent for hotels with casinos and 30 percent for those without. Beydaðlý said problems in the construction sector also affected the tourism sector. “Tourism regions are filled with incomplete hotel constructions. Such a sight does not befit a tourism center. The south of the island receives three million tourists annually and the average accommodation period is 11 days. We receive 300,000 people, who visit only the casinos on weekends. There are new facilities. But they shared a piece of the current pie in the market rather than creating a new market.” Beydaðlý also criticized the fact that the hotels appear in the tabloid press. “It was thought that having some artists over at the hotels as a promotion would help the business. We became a derogatory topic in the tabloid press. Mafia settling in the casinos badly hit another source of income – the universities – as well as tourism. Families do not send their children because of the bad image and costliness. Even the universities now lack students.” Gamblers instead of tourists: Turkish Cyprus Chamber of Commerce Chairman Hasan Ýnce said the worst mistake was made in the marketing strategy. Unqualified staff were used in expensive and poor quality services. Ýnce said instead of normal tourists the marketing strategy had gamblers as a target audience, adding, “a normal tourist cannot get a one-week reservation. Weekdays are not sold, because gamblers book for the weekends. This led to a bad image. Gambling is not a priority for Cyprus tourism. It is time we started marketing Cypriot history, nature and culture. We can hold promotion campaigns in Turkey's busiest airports on the Aegean and Mediterranean coastline for foreign tourists. The primary obstacle before tourism is transport which should be subsidized by the state.”
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Post by tileiohmaleas on Feb 20, 2008 6:54:49 GMT -5
Miscalculations, image hit tourism in N. Cyprus Thursday, January 10, 2008
Tourism in Turkish Cyprus needs a new strategy that leaves gambling aside.
The pillar of the Turkish Republic of northern Cyprus’ economy, tourism, is on shaky ground. In recent months 24 hotels have closed down and 2,000 people have been let off. Around 50 hotels will close down after New Year’s Eve. Northern Cyprus Hoteliers Association Chairman Turhan Beydaðlý says an immediate strategy should be adopted in order to create an image of Cyprus as a country of universities and tourism
ÝSMAÝL YANMAZ ISTANBUL - Referans
Investments in new hotels, which have been booming in Turkish Cyprus for the last three years in the hope that the United Nations mediated plan to find a lasting peace on the divided island will be accepted, are facing serious trouble.
The tourism sector in Turkish Cyprus is in serious crisis with 24 hotels closed and 50 more on the brink of shutting down. The rejection by the Greek Cypriots of the U.N. mediated peace plan is not the only reason behind the optimistic expectations for the tourism sector not materializing. The continuation of the isolation of the island despite promises from the European Union that sanctions will be eased, coupled with insufficient marketing are also considered reasons for the crisis.
Around 2,000 people were laid off, as occupancy rates did not even reach 30 percent, last summer. “Tourism suffered a lot due to many mistakes made one after another. And the sector will collapse unless a new strategy is developed leaving aside gambling,” said Turhan Beydaðlý, chairman of northern Cyprus Hoteliers Association. Gambling is legal in northern Cyprus.
When Turkish Cyprus voted in favor of the United Nation's plan called the Annan Plan the construction and tourism sectors experienced a boom. Yet, they have been going through troubled times lately. The buildings initially planned for sale to the British remain unsold. The hopes for direct flights between Ercan Airport and destinations in the U.K. have faded away. Although the total number of beds rose sharply, the occupancy rate is only 44 percent for hotels with casinos and 30 percent for those without.
Beydaðlý said problems in the construction sector also affected the tourism sector. “Tourism regions are filled with incomplete hotel constructions. Such a sight does not befit a tourism center. The south of the island receives three million tourists annually and the average accommodation period is 11 days. We receive 300,000 people, who visit only the casinos on weekends. There are new facilities. But they shared a piece of the current pie in the market rather than creating a new market.”
Beydaðlý also criticized the fact that the hotels appear in the tabloid press. “It was thought that having some artists over at the hotels as a promotion would help the business. We became a derogatory topic in the tabloid press. Mafia settling in the casinos badly hit another source of income – the universities – as well as tourism. Families do not send their children because of the bad image and costliness. Even the universities now lack students.”
Gamblers instead of tourists:
Turkish Cyprus Chamber of Commerce Chairman Hasan Ýnce said the worst mistake was made in the marketing strategy. Unqualified staff were used in expensive and poor quality services. Ýnce said instead of normal tourists the marketing strategy had gamblers as a target audience, adding, “a normal tourist cannot get a one-week reservation. Weekdays are not sold, because gamblers book for the weekends. This led to a bad image. Gambling is not a priority for Cyprus tourism. It is time we started marketing Cypriot history, nature and culture. We can hold promotion campaigns in Turkey's busiest airports on the Aegean and Mediterranean coastline for foreign tourists. The primary obstacle before tourism is transport which should be subsidized by the state.”
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Post by tileiohmaleas on Feb 1, 2008 20:54:39 GMT -5
errrr My name is Mustapha ?
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Post by tileiohmaleas on Feb 1, 2008 20:51:58 GMT -5
Sarkozy and Merkel slam the EU door
‘No place for Turkey’
FRANCE and Germany have slammed the door in Turkey’s face, saying it has no place in the European Union.
French President Nicolas Sarkozy and German Chancellor Angela Merkel said they both agreed that Turkey cannot become an EU member state.
Their blunt remarks were made before the conference of the ruling UMP party in Paris, on Wednesday.
Nicosia, which hopes to use Turkey’s EU aspirations to gain concessions on Cyprus peace talks, yesterday distanced itself from the statements but did not rule out a change of tack.
Different
"As you know, the position of the Cyprus government was different when the decision was being taken to give the green light to Turkey to start accession negotiations with the EU," Government Spokesman Vassilis Palmas said.
But he left the door ajar, saying politics were never static.
"Politics are never static. They develop and you adapt to developments and the course which will follow, depending on what you have to face at a given time."
Sarkozy was categorical in again rejecting the possibility of Turkey entering the bloc, saying that it could instead benefit from a "privileged partnership.
"I want to be a friend of Turkey but I want to say that Turkey does not have a place in Europe, simply because it is in Asia Minor.
"Turkey must benefit from the status of a privileged partnership" he told a meeting of the UMP (Union for a Popular Movement) .
"Before thinking of countries which are not in Europe, we should perhaps think of countries that are, we must not let ourselves be caught in a trap, all the countries neighbouring on Europe do not have an opportunity to join Europe…. If we keep enlarging Europe, we will kill Europe, " he said to applause.
United
Moments earlier, German Chancellor Angela Merkel, guest of honour at the meeting, also voiced her opposition to Turkey’s entry in EU 27.
"One thing that unites the UNP and the CDU (the German Conservative Party) is that the two of them want to propose a privileged partnership to Turkey and not full membership," she said.
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Post by tileiohmaleas on Feb 1, 2008 20:58:45 GMT -5
awwww what a shame.......
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Post by tileiohmaleas on Jan 9, 2008 5:33:11 GMT -5
Well if the Germans ran posters stating the agressivness of Turkish men in Germany, and people have had problems with men in Turkey, could we blame the Russian and Romanian prostitues ?
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