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Post by Patrinos on Feb 5, 2009 8:14:35 GMT -5
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Post by Patrinos on Feb 5, 2009 8:20:47 GMT -5
What about their physiognomy in the photos? I think they have the typical brown-eye/brown hair/ not very light skin colour Greek look.
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Post by Alb_Korcar on Feb 5, 2009 11:16:30 GMT -5
They look like a hybrid mix of Arvanites-vlachs-Chams-slavs lol
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Post by danceswithpoodles on Feb 5, 2009 12:08:03 GMT -5
I onnce posted a photo of me on skadi and quite a few people said I looked like them without knowing I was Greek.
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Feb 5, 2009 12:33:47 GMT -5
"The Greek ethnographer Angheliki Chatzimichali (Chatzimichali, 1957), who spent a lifetime among them, believes that they are α group of population, who in their pastoral way of life, social organization, and art, show forth certain prototypical elements of Greek culture. She is describing, for instance, the similarities between the Sarakatsani decorative art and those of the "geometric" style of pre-classical Greece."----- Discussion.
The description given above places the Sarakatsani population in the Continental, or Epirotic, type of the europaeoids, and not among the Mediterraneans (as supposed by Necrassova, Boev, 1962). It has been shown, that the Epirotic type is much older on European soil, than the Mediterranean one (Poulianos 1968). It is clearly related to the "Brunn-Przedmost-CroMagnon" type described by G.F. Debetz (1936). This same type is followed up by Ι. Ι. Gohman (1966) amongst the Mesolithic (Vassilievka ΙΙΙ) and Neolithic population of Ukraine. Due to this work by Gohman we now know that the "Cro-Magnon in the wide meaning of the word" anthropological type of Western Europe in the Upper Palaeolithic is the same in Eastern Europe and the steppes of the Russian Plain. Upper Palaeolithic skulls are not yet known in Greece, but there is α very interesting find of early Mesolithic (Jacobsen 1969). The physical type of the skull is classified by J. L. Angel (1969) as Basic White (Α3) and lies between Tιviec and Natufιans (less linear than the later). Our own study of the skull (Poulianos 1970) gave α 1οw face (68 mm) and quite wide (143 mm). The frontal width is rather small and the slope almost straight. Unfortunately it is yet only one skull and it would be difficult to come to general conclusions about the Mesolithic population of Greece. Still we can classify it among the Protoeuropaeoids, in a way linking anthropologically the territory of Central and Southern Europe in such an early period.
The Epirotic type described above is met, besides the Pindos massif, among the Epirotes of NW Greece, which we first studied in 1957, and after whom the name of the type was given. The same type is met in Montenegro, as it is described by K.W. Ehrich (1948), in NW Bulgaria, (Poulianos, 1966), in Romania (Milku, Dumitrescu, 1958-1961) and in Ukraine (Djatchenko 1965). It is not confined only to the Dinaric Alps, but extended to the west at least as far as Pyrinnes. It is a real epirotic (e.g. continental). The Palaeolithic Europeans could not vanish without a trace. Their descendants became the Epirotics, and the most representative group of them, the nucleus so to speak of the Epirotic type, is the Sarakatsani isolates.------- SARAKATSANI - THE MOST ANCIENT PEOPLE OF EUROPE www.aee.gr/english/5sarakatsani/sarakatsani.html
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Post by Patrinos on Feb 5, 2009 13:06:19 GMT -5
They look like a hybrid mix of Arvanites-vlachs-Chams-slavs lol They're not all like you ore alvane.
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Post by Kastorianos on Feb 5, 2009 18:10:13 GMT -5
The Sarakatsanoi belong to the Greek people but I agree that not all of them look like the typical Greek. I wonder if they have ever mixed with local populations.
Btw I have sarakatsan neighbours...very nice people.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Feb 5, 2009 21:01:07 GMT -5
Korcabre, the pict of the church in your sig is beautiful.
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Feb 5, 2009 21:07:48 GMT -5
They look like middle Turks and some like Caucasus
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Post by Alb_Korcar on Feb 6, 2009 0:34:40 GMT -5
Thanks Novi Pazar, it's in the center of Korca.
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Post by Patrinos on Feb 6, 2009 4:34:05 GMT -5
They look like middle Turks and some like Caucasus Thats the albanian answer when they want to say that someone looks Greek... ;D The Sarakatsanoi belong to the Greek people but I agree that not all of them look like the typical Greek. I wonder if they have ever mixed with local populations. Btw I have sarakatsan neighbours...very nice people. I think in Bulgaria, they've started to marry non-Greeks.
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