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Post by theblackswans on Jul 17, 2008 9:22:33 GMT -5
BOSNIA: BOSNIA'S MUSLIMS are furious with the country's Serb republic for adopting an anthem and emblems that allegedly glorify Serb nationalism and undermine what precious little ethnic harmony still exists in the divided country.
The row comes at a tense time, after last week's commemoration of the 1995 Serb massacre of 8,000 Muslims at Srebrenica and a stand-off this week between police and Muslim women trying to visit a Serb village where their male relatives were murdered.
The Dayton peace deal that ended the 1992-5 war split Bosnia into a Muslim-Croat Federation and Republika Srpska, both of which had their own anthems and coats of arms, and which remained deeply suspicious of each other and any attempt at reconciliation.
Amid Western efforts to integrate the two "entities" and strengthen a central, multi-ethnic administration in Sarajevo, a court ruled in 2006 that the anthems and symbols used by each should reflect equally Bosnia's Muslim, Croat and Serb communities.
The new anthem adopted by the local parliament in Republika Srpska makes no mention of Bosnia however, and on the coat of arms approved by legislators the traditional Serb eagle and lion tower over puny Muslim and Croatian emblems.
Muslim MPs accused their Serb colleagues of nationalism and discrimination, and vowed to challenge the adoption of the coat of arms and the anthem called "My Republic", which tells of a "country of the shining sun, where honourable and good people live".
Such sentiments deeply trouble Muslims, who were driven from swathes of Bosnia by Serbs who sought to create an ethnically pure "Greater Serbia".
On Tuesday, police, fearing ethnic clashes, stopped about 150 Muslim women from laying flowers at a warehouse in the Serb village of Kravica, near Srebrenica, where more than 1,000 Muslim men were executed in 1995.
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Post by sweetnugs on Jul 17, 2008 11:55:02 GMT -5
Serbs are hypocrites.
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Post by Zvone on Jul 17, 2008 12:03:21 GMT -5
What's the anthem?
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Post by sweetnugs on Jul 17, 2008 12:54:24 GMT -5
It could be 'Serbs rule the world, we're #1' for all I care. I just think the RS side is a bunch of fucking hypocrites. After the war they bitched and cried about how the flag of BiH with the lillies was not 'multi-cultural' enough so they changed it, yet when it comes down to them changing something of their own, they never do it. They can't be trusted whats so ever.
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Post by Novus Dis on Jul 17, 2008 15:27:39 GMT -5
Headline should read: Muslims want to get rid of everything that reminded them of their former lives.
But since that headline is too long it should be: Muslims continue to live in denial.
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Post by Zvone on Jul 17, 2008 15:31:19 GMT -5
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Post by Novus Dis on Jul 17, 2008 16:10:11 GMT -5
Breaking news from the Orthodox Croat website. They’re not Croats in any shape or form.
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Post by sweetnugs on Jul 17, 2008 16:42:21 GMT -5
Headline should read: Muslims want to get rid of everything that reminded them of their former lives. But since that headline is too long it should be: Muslims continue to live in denial. Funny you say that, and its actually so ironic too. Serbs are the one who disregarded the old Bosnian flag that was re-adopted during the independence of BiH, the very same flag Serbs lived under many years ago. A flag that was used by the Bosnian king who also held a Serbian crown. Now.. you were saying something about living in denial? Something about wanting to get away from something that reminds you of the past? Because that's exactly what Serbs in BiH did. Also, what former lives are we talking about here? Are you one of those delusional Serbs that thinks that everyone in the Balkan is a Serb? Its not like Serbian tribes just settled into clean-non-inhibited Balkans where NO people lived right? You morons love saying how Turks were 'occupators' who invaded Balkan, yet Serbian tribes did the same exact thing. Christianity was spread by force no mater how you try to sugarcoat it. This is why I laugh whenever Serbs try to play the Ottoman occupation card when in reality, Serbs did everything like Turks, only much sooner when things were still primitive. Lucky for us, you stayed primitive. Bravo!
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Post by Zvone on Jul 17, 2008 16:48:18 GMT -5
Don't worry sweetnugs, they think the Sahovnica is a Nazi creation just like the Ljiljani are a mujaheddin.
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Post by sweetnugs on Jul 17, 2008 16:52:06 GMT -5
Don't worry sweetnugs, they think the Sahovnica is a Nazi creation just like the Ljiljani are a mujaheddin. I can grasp many theories about different ethnic groups... this and that, but I'll never grasp how idiotic Serbian extremists think when it comes to history. To them, everyone is wrong but Serbs, and everyone else 'forged' history, but never them. In their eyes, they're nothing but saints, and of course, they think everyone is out to get them somehow.
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Post by Novus Dis on Jul 17, 2008 17:08:26 GMT -5
Funny you say that, and its actually so ironic too. Serbs are the one who disregarded the old Bosnian flag that was re-adopted during the independence of BiH, the very same flag Serbs lived under many years ago. A flag that was used by the Bosnian king who also held a Serbian crown. Now.. you were saying something about living in denial? Something about wanting to get away from something that reminds you of the past? Because that's exactly what Serbs in BiH did. If you bothered to read my posts, you would know I am a supporter of Bosnia but not of the foreign infestation there (who carry Turkish/Arabic names.) Also, what former lives are we talking about here? Are you one of those delusional Serbs that thinks that everyone in the Balkan is a Serb? Its not like Serbian tribes just settled into clean-non-inhibited Balkans where NO people lived right? You morons love saying how Turks were 'occupators' who invaded Balkan, yet Serbian tribes did the same exact thing. Christianity was spread by force no mater how you try to sugarcoat it. This is why I laugh whenever Serbs try to play the Ottoman occupation card when in reality, Serbs did everything like Turks, only much sooner when things were still primitive. Lucky for us, you stayed primitive. Bravo! Did everything like Turks, huh? Like bend over 4 times a day to worship the teachings of a dead paedophile? Nah it seems only Muslims do like the Turks do.
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Post by sweetnugs on Jul 17, 2008 17:12:13 GMT -5
LMAO.
Do you know anything about religion? Like, seriously. Do you?
Christianity was not started in Europe chief, so technically its as foreign as Islam is to European grounds. So once again, you are wrong and ignorant.
Also, do you really think the early Serbs had Christian names? No, they adopted them, the same way Bosniacs did upon taking Islam.
You can say whatever you want about Muhamad, thats your opinion and it doesnt surprise me one bit, but just so we're clear, Jesus was anything but a son of God, rather, an offspring of a Roman soldier who knocked up a woman who made up the best lie in the world. You gotta be extremely retarded to believe she gave birth without anyone sticking their dick inside her. How can you be so delusional. Its insane.
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Post by kapetan on Jul 17, 2008 17:14:01 GMT -5
No it's much better to worship a jew hippie who made coffee tables then got pwned for runing his mouf lolz
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Post by kapetan on Jul 17, 2008 17:15:25 GMT -5
LMAO. Do you know anything about religion? Like, seriously. Do you? Christianity was not started in Europe chief, so technically its as foreign as Islam is to European grounds. So once again, you are wrong and ignorant. Also, do you really think the early Serbs had Christian names? No, they adopted them, the same way Bosniacs did upon taking Islam. You can say whatever you want about Muhamad, thats your opinion and it doesnt surprise me one bit, but just so we're clear, Jesus was anything but a son of God, rather, an offspring of a Roman soldier who knocked up a woman who made up the best lie in the world. You gotta be extremely retarded to believe she gave birth without anyone sticking their dick inside her. How can you be so delusional. Its insane. We didn't even take Arab names we just combined it with ours. Example = Suljemanovic Won't see Iraqis named that Lol.
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Post by Novus Dis on Jul 17, 2008 17:16:18 GMT -5
LMAO. Do you know anything about religion? Like, seriously. Do you? Christianity was not started in Europe chief, so technically its as foreign as Islam is to European grounds. So once again, you are wrong and ignorant. Also, do you really think the early Serbs had Christian names? No, they adopted them, the same way Bosniacs did upon taking Islam. You can say whatever you want about Muhamad, thats your opinion and it doesnt surprise me one bit, but just so we're clear, Jesus was anything but a son of God, rather, an offspring of a Roman soldier who knocked up a woman who made up the best lie in the world. You gotta be extremely retarded to believe she gave birth without anyone sticking their dick inside her. How can you be so delusional. Its insane. Orthodox Christianity originated in the Eastern Roman Empire. The Islam that Turks spread was Turkish in origin.
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Post by sweetnugs on Jul 17, 2008 17:17:15 GMT -5
Haj ti djeci objasni koja ocito nisu imala inteligentne roditelje da ih ista korisno nauce sem mrznje. Fukare do bola.
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Post by sweetnugs on Jul 17, 2008 17:20:05 GMT -5
LMAO. Do you know anything about religion? Like, seriously. Do you? Christianity was not started in Europe chief, so technically its as foreign as Islam is to European grounds. So once again, you are wrong and ignorant. Also, do you really think the early Serbs had Christian names? No, they adopted them, the same way Bosniacs did upon taking Islam. You can say whatever you want about Muhamad, thats your opinion and it doesnt surprise me one bit, but just so we're clear, Jesus was anything but a son of God, rather, an offspring of a Roman soldier who knocked up a woman who made up the best lie in the world. You gotta be extremely retarded to believe she gave birth without anyone sticking their dick inside her. How can you be so delusional. Its insane. Orthodox Christianity originated in the Eastern Roman Empire. The Islam that Turks spread was Turkish in origin. Way to avoid everything else and go for the cop out. I know damn well about Roman empires, and I also know that before Christianity, people who lived in the 'eastern roman empire' worshipped just about anything they could think of. So once again, you're avoiding things. Serbs adopted things the same way Bosniacs did, why are you so dense that you can't see things like a normal person, yet you force yourself to think that no one else is right but Serbs. You really need to expand your mind and open yourself to other possibilities. I am glad Turks brought the Islam that they did, I personally like their take on it versus the Arabic one that dwells in the middle east. And since we're on a topic of that, Eastern Christianity developed form the CORE root of Christianity the same way 'Turkish' Islam developed on their own from the core of Islam. So once more, how can you be so dense?
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Post by Novus Dis on Jul 17, 2008 17:24:30 GMT -5
Way to avoid everything else and go for the cop out. I know damn well about Roman empires, and I also know that before Christianity, people who lived in the 'eastern roman empire' worshipped just about anything they could think of. So once again, you're avoiding things. Serbs adopted things the same way Bosniacs did, why are you so dense that you can't see things like a normal person, yet you force yourself to think that no one else is right but Serbs. You really need to expand your mind and open yourself to other possibilities. I am glad Turks brought the Islam that they did, I personally like their take on it versus the Arabic one that dwells in the middle east. And since we're on a topic of that, Eastern Christianity developed form the CORE root of Christianity the same way 'Turkish' Islam developed on their own from the core of Islam. Serbs converted to Orthodox Christianity naturally without pressure from the ERE. Turks gave Serbs in Bosnia had two choices when they arrived: convert or lose your land. So once more, how can you be so dense? So once more, how can you suck so much Turkish kurac and not feel like a kurva?
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Post by sweetnugs on Jul 17, 2008 17:27:46 GMT -5
Nice dude, that reply shows me the caliber of your intelligence.
I've never been to Turkey, nor do I particularly like Turks, yet I hear Serbs love going to Turkey on their summer vacations probably more than Bosniacs. Is that because of all the Turkish blood flowing through the Serbian blood?
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Post by Zvone on Jul 17, 2008 17:37:47 GMT -5
Actually, the earliest separation was in Egypt. But then Turkey.
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