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Post by radovic on Apr 1, 2008 11:47:13 GMT -5
Serbia: Industrial production increases by 12.2% Economy >> News The Serbian Statistics Office stated today that industrial production in Serbia in February 2008, when compared to February 2007, increased by 12.2%, and in comparison to the 2007 average, it decreased by 2.1%.
Examined by sectors, in February 2008 compared to the same month in 2007, there was a growth of 19.5% in the electricity, gas and water supply sector, 10.5% in the manufacturing sector, and 10.2% in quarrying and mining sector.
According to data on industrial production in February 2008, compared to February 2007, energy production grew by 15.2%, production of capital goods increased by 15.1%, intermediate goods, energy excluded, by 11.9%, while the production of durable consumer goods fell by 8.2%.
The industrial production volume in February 2008, compared to February 2007, showed that there was growth in 22 divisions which participate in the structure of industrial production with 88%, while production fell in seven divisions which participate in the structure of industrial production with 12%.
Industrial production growth in February 2008, compared to February 2007, was mainly influenced by the following sectors: generation of electricity, manufacture of chemicals and chemical products, manufacture of basic metals, manufacture of machinery and equipment, except electrical equipment and manufacture of food products.
The seasonal adjustment of the industrial production index for February 2008, compared to the 2007 average, indicates a 4.2% growth in overall industrial production and a 4.9% growth in manufacturing.
The seasonally adjusted industrial production index for February 2008, compared to January 2008, indicates a 0.3% fall in overall industrial production and a 0.3% fall in manufacturing.
The production of small and medium-sized enterprises (SMEs) that were not included in regular statistical surveys is monitored based on a sample of 325 selected units. In February, 114 enterprises submitted the requested data. Including the assessment of the industrial production of SMEs, in February 2008 compared to the 2007 average, overall industrial production decreased by 1.5% (otherwise it fell by 2.1%) and manufacturing decreased by 5.3% (otherwise it fell by 6.1%). (Economy, March 31.)
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Apr 1, 2008 13:55:39 GMT -5
serbia was is and will be the only country in the balkans capable of substantial industrial production. Thats why they bombed her. Thats why Greece will never get a bomb. I remember reading the diaries of Serbs in the Corfu museum (a must visit for all), where they said that they liked the Serb designed muscettes better than their french counterparts...
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Post by stickinthemud on Apr 1, 2008 13:59:21 GMT -5
serbia was is and will be the only country in the balkans capable of substantial industrial production. Thats why they bombed her. Thats why Greece will never get a bomb. I remember reading the diaries of Serbs in the Corfu museum (a must visit for all), where they said that they liked the Serb designed muscettes better than their french counterparts... Serbia WAS , IS, and WILL be the ONLY COUNTRY in the Balkans capable of substantial industrial production? Because of this reason Serbia got bombed? Where did you get your facts from? ;D Is it an April fools joke?
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Apr 1, 2008 14:20:43 GMT -5
My facts are a product of pure thinking smarta**, if you cant get it, let the others do it. Besides its always good to do your own homework, than swallow digested food. Where from dude? Anyway, pouring in "independent" in the soup makes the argument complete, but i am sure you dont need trivialities like that smarta**.
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Post by fannoli on Apr 1, 2008 14:29:13 GMT -5
We get it Pyrros, Serbia is the strongest country in the world and thats because your wife said so.
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Post by Anthologic on Apr 1, 2008 14:41:51 GMT -5
You mean Kosovo, right?
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Post by stickinthemud on Apr 1, 2008 14:55:16 GMT -5
My facts are a product of pure thinking smartass, if you cant get it, let the others do it. Besides its always good to do your own homework, than swallow digested food. Where from dude? Anyway, pouring in "independent" in the soup makes the argument complete, but i am sure you dont need trivialities like that smartass. Don't be a nitwit. That was a sweeping generalization that has no factual basis in reality and its obvious you have little to no understanding of economics. Your 'pure thinking' clearly lacks reasoning.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Apr 1, 2008 15:10:08 GMT -5
Once again where from? I am greek btw. Serbia made tractors, guns when the japs where still rice farmers. Now technical ability is something irrelevant of economy. Take for an example the open source world/movement/practice. It bears tons of talent and fine engineering, while at the most cases no connection to the buy-sell relationship (the base for commerce/economy, right? you know better i suppose). So ability and economy are unconnected. Thats why the slavs someday will kick some royal fat rich saxon-germanic a**es. Of course i cant prove anything. Here we are for our love for Serbia and we are all speculating. Can you prove that you are this or that or even anarchist? (you haven;t convinced me) But thats not the point. The point is love. Either it is there or not. Do you love Serbia? Why are you here?
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Post by stickinthemud on Apr 1, 2008 15:25:28 GMT -5
Once again where from? I am greek btw. Serbia made tractors, guns when the japs where still rice farmers. Now technical ability is something irrelevant of economy. Take for an example the open source world/movement/practice. It bears tons of talent and fine engineering, while at the most cases no connection to the buy-sell relationship (the base for commerce/economy, right? you know better i suppose). So ability and economy are unconnected. Thats why the slavs someday will kick some royal fat rich saxon-germanic asses. Of course i cant prove anything. Here we are for our love for Serbia and we are all speculating. Can you prove that you are this or that or even anarchist? (you haven;t convinced me) But thats not the point. The point is love. Either it is there or not. Do you love Serbia? Why are you here? Serbs made tractors and guns while Japanese were still rice farmers? If you had any clue about economics you would know that Japan didn't have much agriculture and by the time the Industrial Revolution rolled around ( If you're indeed speaking of a time of tractor production) the Japanese were already leaps and bounds ahead of any Eastern European state ( Russia was large but had a horribly performing economy.) Technical ability is important in economics because it contributes to the division of labor which is the lifeblood of a prospering economy. Granted, technical ability is not very effective without venture entrepreneurs efficiently allocating resources to their best uses, and to have this of course, you need to have a system which recognizes and enforces property rights. I pretty much couldn't make out the rest of your post. I take it English isn't your first language. I am from America and have Slavic background. I don't have any special love toward Serbia but I don't have any bitterness towards it either.
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Post by radovic on Apr 1, 2008 15:30:46 GMT -5
serbia was is and will be the only country in the balkans capable of substantial industrial production. Thats why they bombed her. Thats why Greece will never get a bomb. I remember reading the diaries of Serbs in the Corfu museum (a must visit for all), where they said that they liked the Serb designed muscettes better than their french counterparts... Serbia was bombed for other reasons -- unwillingness to follow western diktats. Some economics factors were factored in regarding these diktats but this was not the main reason. Serbia is the only Balkan country that won't have tourism as a major industry. Romania(entire country), Bulgaria (non-coastal areas), FYROM (entire country), Bosnia and areas of Croatia (not Dalmatia, Istria) have the potential to become major industrial areas.
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Post by Pejoni on Apr 1, 2008 15:45:06 GMT -5
We get it Pyrros, Serbia is the strongest country in the world and thats because your wife said so. He has to belive it or els no.... ;D
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Post by Novi Pazar on Apr 1, 2008 17:55:06 GMT -5
"You mean Kosovo, right?" Lmao, add albania they are a superpower ......did l say that?
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Post by Novi Pazar on Apr 1, 2008 17:57:31 GMT -5
"We get it Pyrros, Serbia is the strongest country in the world and thats because your wife said so."
Fan arn't you an Aromanian doesn't that make you a Romanian?.....there is no shame if you say your one, you've admitted it in the past.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Apr 1, 2008 18:01:26 GMT -5
"Serbia was bombed for other reasons -- unwillingness to follow western diktats. Some economics factors were factored in regarding these diktats but this was not the main reason."
Exactly right Pyrro, the Germanics are in love with the Balkans and they will do anything just to distroy the smallest resistance there.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Apr 2, 2008 0:59:09 GMT -5
Once again where from? I am greek btw. Serbia made tractors, guns when the japs where still rice farmers. Now technical ability is something irrelevant of economy. Take for an example the open source world/movement/practice. It bears tons of talent and fine engineering, while at the most cases no connection to the buy-sell relationship (the base for commerce/economy, right? you know better i suppose). So ability and economy are unconnected. Thats why the slavs someday will kick some royal fat rich saxon-germanic asses. Of course i cant prove anything. Here we are for our love for Serbia and we are all speculating. Can you prove that you are this or that or even anarchist? (you haven;t convinced me) But thats not the point. The point is love. Either it is there or not. Do you love Serbia? Why are you here? Serbs made tractors and guns while Japanese were still rice farmers? If you had any clue about economics you would know that Japan didn't have much agriculture and by the time the Industrial Revolution rolled around ( If you're indeed speaking of a time of tractor production) the Japanese were already leaps and bounds ahead of any Eastern European state ( Russia was large but had a horribly performing economy.) Technical ability is important in economics because it contributes to the division of labor which is the lifeblood of a prospering economy. Granted, technical ability is not very effective without venture entrepreneurs efficiently allocating resources to their best uses, and to have this of course, you need to have a system which recognizes and enforces property rights. I pretty much couldn't make out the rest of your post. I take it English isn't your first language. I am from America and have Slavic background. I don't have any special love toward Serbia but I don't have any bitterness towards it either. Mr anarchist, if you dont have a clue about open source, public domain s/w or just free software (as in Freedom not as we say "free beer'), you shouldn't blame my english for that, but rather your huge ignorance. I stated a model that disconnects scientific excellence from economy, isn't that too hard to understand? In the meanwhile, do a search about Krstarica tractors, the ones with the bull as their emblem. I mean everybody knows them around here, and they date back to 1920-. Also Serbia by 1914 had a military industry. Subproduct of their technical/scientific ability was also a competent public health system (i mean in years 1910+), that made Venizelos, ask the plan/design from his Serb counterpart, in order to organize the Greek health system in the same manner. If you still have a problem comprehending my english, then i cant help it, ask the others to translate it to your american/economist/anarchy/ignorance/whatever language you like. So, Serbia had the power to have massive military industry, plus She was tending to be an Independent nation, your NATO could not get their hands on her, and boom. Simple? Next time dont make me waste so much time stating the obvious. And please, some here have a PhD, some dont, some know english very well, some dont, this is not a race about showing off our knowledge, (and give lengthy lectures about various staff we know (i could spend whole months on that), but we are here for our interest for Serbia. Now, can you prove at least you are interested? Speaking economy, (a field that you seem to have lifted to divine levels), you should accompanied with some financial/historic knowledge of the country. Do you have them? Remember to try not to show off in your answer.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Apr 2, 2008 3:21:18 GMT -5
Serbia is the only Balkan country that won't have tourism as a major industry. Romania(entire country), Bulgaria (non-coastal areas), FYROM (entire country), Bosnia and areas of Croatia (not Dalmatia, Istria) have the potential to become major industrial areas. Serbia/Bosnia/Croatia basically all have great tourism potential, primarily because of the friendliness of their people, high quality services, cheap prices, organizational skills, beauty of the landscapes, etc... Now about industry, being theoretical "able" to do it, and actually having proved doing it are two different beasts. On paper Indian programmers rule, but in reality they suck big time. On the contrary Chinese/Russian programmers have worse CV's however their brain is much sharper and fast. (just to give an analogy of the difference between smth theoretically feasible VS practically feasible.
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Post by stickinthemud on Apr 2, 2008 9:45:40 GMT -5
You're hard to understand. Sorry. I am not sure if you are asking if I use the internet or if your talking about a gift economy. Sorry man, I'm very confused. Perhaps you can write it in Greek and have one of the people who understand Greek and write English well translate.
Your 'model' was barely intelligible. I am not sure if you're implying that because Serbia ran a 'tractor economy' (right?) it was more affluent than Japan at the time. Or are you suggesting something else? I hope so because the first implication would be absurd. By 1914, Serbia's military industry was probably its largest industry(source?), but certainly not comparable to Western Europe at the time which was militarily more advanced than Imperial Russia although back then Russia had the largest army in the world.
But the welfare state was first organized by Imperial Germany under the leadership of Bismarck. I don't see how this is relevant to technical/scientific ability anyway. Your comment here looks like more dribble.
Did you just jump to modern times or are you still trying talking about pre-WW1? NATO is not 'mine' and I don't support it at all. I don't know where you get that silly idea.
I wouldn't be posting here or even talking about Serbia if I was not interested.
I do have a general knowledge of history and economic history of the region. I don't know what you require me to show you though.
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Post by fannoli on Apr 2, 2008 11:56:23 GMT -5
Novi, you're more Albanian than i am "Aromanian" or "Greek". Since your grandfather spoke Albanian. I understand why at times you like to attack me with my jokes because you're not secure about your own origins.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Apr 2, 2008 13:20:56 GMT -5
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Apr 2, 2008 23:12:51 GMT -5
Also the first public health care system was designed and implemented in Byzantium. The greek word "nosokomeio" =treating place for diseases=hospital (hospital, a word which in Latin means simply inn or hotel or a guest house) was first introduced in Byzantium. P.S. Don't let me read your text for a 3rd time and find more mistakes.
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