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Post by Dsurazal on Dec 26, 2007 20:35:27 GMT -5
Kosovo Albanians sell Semtext used to bomb London. Discovery Times Part 1 Part 2 Part 3 Part 4 Part 5 Part 6
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Post by albpatriot18 on Dec 26, 2007 21:20:49 GMT -5
Very Interesting Video. The British undercover guy must have huge cohonas. Im suprised how he kept his cool And the Bono autograph i was ROFL staright out of the movies.
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Post by Dsurazal on Dec 26, 2007 22:40:36 GMT -5
What I wonder is, if they did meet Hulji, if they would have made it out. I am sure it raised a lot of eyebrows, requesting the meeting.
Craziest part was the ending, how both Hulji was reported shot dead and Sinbad was arrested all because of this undercover investigation.
Good riddance to those that deal in death and terrorism. And job well done by the brave reporter who risked his life multiple times and in the end got a lot of illegal explosives off the market.
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Post by Pejoni on Dec 27, 2007 7:52:27 GMT -5
L-O-L read the title!!!
Why would we want UK bombed when they bombed our enemy Slobodan? And the ONLY reason these criminals sold their semtext is due from their BRITISH nationality. I have seen these kinds of semtext with my own eyes, and Kosova has a lot.
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Post by Dsurazal on Dec 27, 2007 11:21:39 GMT -5
You are not making sense Pejoni. You just called them, "criminals" but yet you assume that they will only sell to other criminals from countries that support Kosovo independence? That makes no sense. Criminals come from every nationality and they even do crimes against there own respective countries. How do these Albanian criminals know they won't use it to blow up a school or whatever? Remember when the FBI building was bombed in the US by US citizens? The fact of the matter is the guy in the video "Sinbad" wanted to sell them, guns, etc. - anything they wanted - this only happened through a contact and by giving out money. In the end, those criminals would have sold to anyone if the price was high enough, they are criminals and nothing more.
Even listen to Sinbad's backward talking - first he says they will kill him if he doesn't get the money (to squeeze money out of them) than later he mentions he is high in the mafia and has kidnapped people, etc. These guys were scum.
Hell even the UN peace keeper's did not want their faces shown because they were worried about being signaled out individually. And it was suspicious when the local cops kept (repetitively) coming around even though the UN had it covered and had already informed them. Like Sinbad said, there are spies everywhere and I am betting that includes the police department.
I do agree that the video title is misleading. There is no way to know where the semtext that was used in the UK came from.
Either way, interesting video.
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Post by jerryspringer on Dec 27, 2007 13:55:19 GMT -5
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Post by Dsurazal on Dec 27, 2007 14:01:52 GMT -5
Good find, yes I agree there are criminals everywhere - every nationality. It was just interesting to watch a video like this as how often are people brave enough to fool the mafia, video tape it and report it seen? It is like something from a movie. However guns are not the weapon of choice for terrorists, that would be explosives such as this semtext. Interesting that the link you sent also had the article. Serbian PM says Kosovo a haven for terroristsAddressing a conference in Belgrade on fighting organised crime, Zoran Zivkovic claimed that terrorists were being protected in Kosovo. TOP www.b92.netBeta News Agency, Belgrade December 6, 2003 BELGRADE -- Saturday - Serbia's prime minister has branded the UN-governed province of Kosovo a haven for terrorists. Addressing a conference in Belgrade on fighting organised crime, Zoran Zivkovic claimed that terrorists were being protected in Kosovo. He said that the blame rested not on the Serbian government but on "those that administer the territory". Zivkovic called on the international authorities in Pristina "to do what they know and can, if they want to". "If our help is needed, we're prepared", the outgoing prime minister told the conference.
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Post by donnie on Dec 28, 2007 10:29:29 GMT -5
Not to mention Serbia's extensive trade with weapons in Iraq and Libya. Dsurazal probably wanted to portray this all, indirectly, as some Muslim conspiracy to crush the West. Caught up in his own sh*t, however, he was reluctantly forced to acknowledge that it is a matter of criminals dealing with criminals -- people indifferent to political or ideological orientations and convictions; people only interested in dirty profit. P:s Interesting video indeed. But the name/spelling Hulji is clearly Slav, not Albanian. Either some Serbs had a part in the video making, or Hulji is a Serbian/Bosniak.
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Post by Dsurazal on Dec 28, 2007 10:41:30 GMT -5
Naw, I was just surfing YouTube and saw the video so I posted it - not trying to portray anything other than news. As far as this Hulji guy is concerned, I have seen that picture they show of him before. I believe the complete picture shows him holding the head of a be-headed Serb. after the KLA was let loose on a murder spree after NATO intervention.
If you just searched KLA pictures on the net you can find it. I will not post it here because it's disrespectful to this forum and it's members.
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Post by donnie on Dec 28, 2007 10:49:45 GMT -5
It is still a typically Slav spelling of his name. I wonder why. Either he is a Slav (which did not disable him from participating in the KLA and return a favour to the Serbs who've beheaded their share of innocent non-Serbs) or, as I said, Serbs participated in the video making.
Serbian corruptions of our names is common due to our language having certain sounds and leters absent in your language. In Albanian, we have the letter 'y', pronounced like the German 'ü'. Serbian lacks it, and so, when spelling Albanian names, Serbs oftenly replaced 'y' with 'i' or 'u'; an example is Kryeziu which was changed to Krujeziju. Likewise, Serbs pronounce the letter 'l' like the Englishmen do; in Albanian, we have both the soft 'l' and the heavier, which we write as 'll'. And so, when trying to spell Albanian names with 'l', Serbs always write it as 'lj'. Example is Syla which becomes Sulja.
Yes of course.
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Post by Dsurazal on Dec 28, 2007 11:02:21 GMT -5
They said he was high in the KLA and than in this organized crime syndicate - something to that extent. I highly doubt he was Serb., roaming around Albanian established sections of Kosovo, running illegal explosive trades. Would Albanian's really put a Serb. at the top of there mafia, as a boss? Highly unlikely.
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Post by donnie on Dec 28, 2007 11:15:04 GMT -5
Hey, I don't know anything -- just speculating. I'm just intrigued by the Serb spelling of his name. In which video was it said that Hulji was a high KLA leader? You're not referring to the video description written obviously by a SERB? To Serbs, everything is about Jihad and a Muslim conspiracy; they seem to overlook their own indulging in illegal trading affairs with terrorists and terrorist states of the lesser parts of the Muslim world. And the fact that they've been more at odds with the West.
Who said Hulji was the boss? Perhaps I missed that part. But usually, bosses are even more invisible than Hulji, leaving the formalities to their lackeys. As I said earlier; criminals know no boundaries, no nations. Albanians and Serbs belonging to criminal gangs have often collaborated with each othe, just as they've opposed each other -- each time driven by their interests in illegl and dishonest profit.
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Post by Dsurazal on Dec 28, 2007 12:44:00 GMT -5
1st video it's mentioned Hulji has 40 kills under his belt, 2nd video claims KLA hold high potions in Kosovo offices or some go the other route and become criminals. Check 2:48 seconds, 2nd video and it says he's one of the their godfathers. He's known for be-headings and they show a picture of him which I have seen before, holding severed heads (If they would show the whole picture).
I will PM you the URL to the complete picture, he is the guy in the upper left of the picture. The video only shows a closeup.
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Post by jerryspringer on Dec 28, 2007 16:38:32 GMT -5
No need to send him any PM. This is from the same article that I had quoted and linked to:
DJ, weren't you an avid supporter of KLA?
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Post by donnie on Dec 28, 2007 17:47:00 GMT -5
Jerry
That's a Serbian site you're quoting; it is as reliable and objective as you when you're in a debate about Wallachians or Bulgarians. Chances are greater that the Serbian government, through its frequent contacts and trade with Saddam's Iraq and Ghaddafi's Libya, had a relation to Al Qaida than the KLA did.
The KLA's organizing element sprung up from the busom of LKCK, a marxist movement with a strong base in Switzerland, not much unlike the IRA (the marxist aspect that is). Of course there were other elements within this organization, such as fervent supporters of Rugova. But the main element, those leading everything, had marxist roots and sympathies. It doesn't seem feasable that they would display ideological kinship with Al Qaida.
Yes. What man would not be a supporter of an organization which took upon itself to protect its vulnerable brethren and fellow countrymen when opressed & persecuted? Does this mean I am blue eyed as to what concerns the KLA's alleged innocence? No. I do not believe there are completely innocent sides in a war. But I still believe that a far greater part of the KLA's operations were justified and aimed to liberate our people. And whatever crimes committed in their name are dwarfed by the crimes perpetrated by the JNA (the 'Yugoslav'/Serbian army) and VRS (Bosnian Serb army) during the 1990s.
I do not support the criminal elements within KLA that are said to have participated in its ranks. But I do support the average volunteer who was an ordinary citizen or an émigré, with no ambitions for corruption but a mere desire to protect himself, his family and country against usurpers and invaders. -----------------------------------------
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Yep, it seems it is him. One cannot but feel resentment towards such elements soiling the reputation of an otherwise just organization pursuing an honorable cause.
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Post by jerryspringer on Dec 28, 2007 19:55:38 GMT -5
You did not complain about the site when you was responding to the part of the article that spoke about Serb and Croatian links to terrorism. The article seems to be written by the British journalist that was involved in the operation and was posted as is, unless the Serb site manipulated the entire thing. I don't plan to do any research on the subject. I am confident that you are truthful and objective in this subject, so I will ask you, instead, knowing that your knowledge in KLA is very resourceful. Has the KLA done any of the things mentioned in the article against women and children? As O'Reilly use to say, let this be the "no spin zone." Just say it as it is. Addentum: a blind Serb guy posted the same article I linked to, but which was published by Sunday Mirror. The article is located here: www.sundaymirror.co.uk/news/content_objectid=13700443_method=full_siteid=106694_headline=-WE-BUY-BAG-OF-SEMTEX -FROM-TERRORISTS-name_page.html The Serb site published the article in its whole, without manipulating its content. I'm sure the site is biased in its covering, but I think you were wrong to accuse it of manipulating articles to fit its agenda.
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Post by Albanoi on Dec 29, 2007 17:43:55 GMT -5
I don't know what does this have to do anything with the Kosova Liberation Army. It seems to me that this guys are a grope of mafia or if u prefer to call them criminals, which i think they are. This guys start doing stuff like this after the war was over, so in this case they have nothing to do with KLA. Trying to link those guys with KLA is just ignoring the facts and playing stupid. So it doesn't mean now who ever does something bad, should be called one of them. And in the and i was happy to see that this guy was dead... we don't need those kind of ppl in Kosova.
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