bihvojska
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Post by bihvojska on Aug 6, 2008 0:17:47 GMT -5
United BIH
In my opinion, i believe that BIH can be a very strong country with a huge economy and okay size army to protect it from invaders. We all love BIH (at least i do) and i want it to be the best it can be, and i want to make the best of it for everyone, but as it goes now, no one in BIH is looking to improve economy and life in BIH, instead they look at one another and look how they can make the worst for one another. Its time that people grow up and learn to live together, with three very smart ethnic groups we can sure make hell of a country ( i mean that in a good way). In order to make BIH great we need to change few things. Step one take out some leaders our government for example Haris Silajdžić, Milorad Dodik, these men aren't looking to change BIH and make the best of it for all of us, they fight for them selves. Step two get rid of Federation and Republika Srpska and create one estate which all three ethnics can live together. Brotherhood and Unity is the key to a united BIH. When we can make all those changes we will be on the way of making the best of BIH. When our government is stable then we can try to identify each other as one in customs and language and etc.. Does it hurt a Serb or a Croat that is born in BIH and Raised in BIH to call him self Bosnian. You carry the citizenship of a Bosnian so might as well call your self it. I'm not saying change your religion or any views you have, all i am asking is to Identify each other as one nationality. I am a huge fan of the army, i am going to school to finish for pilot in the air force and i don't mind working with a men that isn't the same religion as me or anything like that long as we both are fight for Our Country, Our Pride, and People of that Country. A perfect example is USA, people may say shit about USA but in the end USA is a great country they have people from every religion and race working together for one country one pride they are defending there own rights and there peoples rights. We all are the same no matter what people say, Bosnian, Serbian or Croat, were all the same shit, every sentence we say we have one swear word in it, we all love soccer and we all love to listen to kolo and Narodna Muzika. People say that oh you are Bosnian, dude you love turkey and etc, yea we do like turkey cause we have shit together in the past that cant be forgotten but hey i am not gone suck up to them, cause i know that my neighbor Serb is closer to me in so many more ways, yea religion is important but some times it makes the worst of people and we need to get past that and see religion as personal views, no one should care how i see god, and i shouldn't care how he sees god, we all have our own ways, and it shouldn't bother anyone.
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Post by tito on Aug 6, 2008 4:02:08 GMT -5
United BIH
In my opinion, i believe that BIH can be a very strong country with a huge economy and okay size army to protect it from invaders. We all love BIH (at least i do) and i want it to be the best it can be, and i want to make the best of it for everyone, The enemies of Bosnia don’t care. but as it goes now, no one in BIH is looking to improve economy and life in BIH, BS. instead they look at one another and look how they can make the worst for one another. BS. with three very smart ethnic groups we can sure make hell of a country ( i mean that in a good way). In order to make BIH great we need to change few things. Why would the separatists want to make Bosnia a better country??? Step one take out some leaders our government for example Haris Silajdžić, Milorad Dodik, these men aren't looking to change BIH BS. and make the best of it for all of us, Cant you understand that there is no way that separatists and the defenders of Bosnia will ever agree on what is best for Bosnia???? Step two get rid of Federation and Republika Srpska HOW???????????????????????????????????? and create one estate which all three ethnics can live together. Brotherhood and Unity is the key to a united BIH. The enemies of Bosnia don’t want that. When we can make all those changes HOW?
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bihvojska
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Post by bihvojska on Aug 6, 2008 11:39:02 GMT -5
If people wanted to change it could happen, its people like you who sit around and talk shit on the internet but in person you don't do shit instead you wait on others to get up for you and defend your rights. I wonder how many people in this forum will be doing the election in Bosnia,zero i am guessing cause this forum is just full of nationalist who look to fight for there side only and don't give flying fuck about others. People can talk much as they want on here but it don't shit except piss off some thirteen year olds. Grow up men don't ask how, find a way your self don't depend on other with answers cause no one has one.
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Post by osmano on Aug 6, 2008 11:54:43 GMT -5
If people wanted to change it could happen, It seems to me that you keep forgetting that BiH under Dayton is not a real democracy, 59% of the national parliament today is pro-Bosnian and would make the constitutional changes that you are talking about if it was up to them. But it is not. I wonder how many people in this forum will be doing the election in Bosnia, zero i am guessing Most of the croats and serbs here are not even from Bosnia, anyway I hope most BOSNIAN nationalists will vote.
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bihvojska
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Post by bihvojska on Aug 6, 2008 14:24:49 GMT -5
I no that the Bosnian parliament isn't pro Bosnian i understand that but the people in the parliament are not even trying to work with the Serbs and Croats, maybe if we tryed to work together we could make at least some changes. The people aren't trying to work together, there all working against each other, this is all to blame those nationalist representatives of BiH.
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Post by kapetan on Aug 6, 2008 14:27:46 GMT -5
I think Haris means well, he was always trying to have a multi ethnic Bosnia. Even Alija's "team" was multi-ethnic during the war and after.
But some new blood would definetly help.
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Post by osmano on Aug 6, 2008 16:51:22 GMT -5
I no that the Bosnian parliament isn't pro Bosnian 59% is pro-bosnian and in a real democracy that would be enough. the people in the parliament are not even trying to work with the Serbs and Croats You cant be serious. , maybe if we tryed to work together we could make at least some changes. We are working together but as long as Bosnia has an anti-democratic constitution that allows separatist minorities to obstruct the re-integration of the state we cant expect any major changes. The best we who love Bosnia can hope for right now is that multi-ethnic(pro-bosnian) parties like SDP, Narodna stranka Radom za boljitak, Nasa stranka and the greens eventually gather enough pro-bosnian croats and serbs so that we can reach the required ethnic consensus in order to change the constitution for the better.
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Post by theblackswans on Aug 6, 2008 21:10:44 GMT -5
Bosnia has been betrayed by a lack of leadership since the time of Izetbegovic, who had in many respects his heart in the right place. He really made a lot of mistakes and it cost Bosnia dearly.
The leaders of BiH since have not been of a good stock.
Dodik is the most western style economic focused leader in BiH since the war. Obviously he has his warts, a lot of it is response of the rehtoric of the Sarajevo government.
If the Sarajevo government was strong and economically viable and had the best interest of all of it's people at heart it would be a better situation.
It's time for someone with some strength and leadership.
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Post by osmano on Aug 7, 2008 3:43:29 GMT -5
The leaders of BiH since have not been of*good stock. Bosnia does not need "strong leaders"(dictators), it needs democracy. Dodik is the most western style economic focused leader in BiH since the war. ;D NS: Dodikova politika ne samo da je antievropska, veæ i antisrpska..
06.08.2008 .."To pokazuje i naèin na koji je on rasprodao sve najvažnije ekonomske i druge resurse u Republici Srpskoj, ali naèin na koji je RS pretvorio u taoca ekonomskih interesa svojih Laktaša i Banjaluke. Dodik je, nadalje, od RS stvorio vlastitu i præiju politièke elite njegovog SNSD-a", dodaje se u saopštenju.
Naša stranka smatra da je rezultat "Dodikove nacionalistièke politike i strategije ekonomskog razvoja RS demografska katastrofa Srba u RS, ali i potpuna privredna i ekonomska destrukcija svih dijelova Republike Srpske, osim Dodikove Laktaško-banjaluèke latifundije".Obviously he has his warts, a lot of it is response of the rehtoric of the Sarajevo government. Which makes him the enemy of the state. If the Sarajevo government was strong It cant be strong as long as your dear Dodik and Karadzics genocide "republic" has the right to obstruct the state,, which is what the "Sarajevo government" is attempting put an end to. had the best interest of all of it's people at heart it would be a better situation. So you expect the Bosnian government to look after the interests of anti-bosnian elements who want to make the same government as weak as possible. Koji si ti ustasa.
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Post by fukara on Aug 7, 2008 4:35:55 GMT -5
"democracy" does not work in the Balkans, we need socialism/"brotherhood and unity", thats the only way BiH will work
@ bihvojska, what army are you going to be pilot for, OSBiH? cool, and good luck!
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Post by osmano on Aug 7, 2008 4:42:55 GMT -5
"democracy" does not work in the Balkans Bosnia’s future is in EU where the orientalist myth about "the Balkans" is to be killed with democracy.
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Post by bosnjak on Aug 7, 2008 5:23:03 GMT -5
Bosnia will unite one day and it will be in a peaceful way! I believe so and I want so. The country has a potential to be one of the most developed countries in the region.
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Demonel
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Post by Demonel on Aug 7, 2008 8:02:00 GMT -5
That is exactly what BiH needs, a dictator or some other form af authoritarian regime. People here don't know or need better. We don't have democracy here now, and we never had.
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Post by osmano on Aug 7, 2008 8:19:29 GMT -5
That is exactly what BiH needs, a dictator or some other form af authoritarian regime. People here don't know or need better. As I said before: Bosnia’s future is in EU where the orientalist myth about "the Balkans"(or in your case "the Bosnian people not deserving democracy") is to be killed with democracy.
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Post by Demonel on Aug 7, 2008 8:26:18 GMT -5
You seem to have a difficulty with tenses. I’m not talking about the future or like you about a distant future, I’m talking about now.
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Post by osmano on Aug 7, 2008 8:33:54 GMT -5
I’m not talking about the future or like you about a distant future, I’m talking about now. In that case you should know that Bosnia already has a dictator:
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Post by Demonel on Aug 7, 2008 11:27:39 GMT -5
A true dictator doesn't have bosses.
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bihvojska
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Post by bihvojska on Aug 7, 2008 13:12:13 GMT -5
I agree one of the best solutions would be a dictator, then it would be lot easier to solve some problems, but how many people really want to have a dictator, lets think about, Iraq=Fucked up to the max, Russia and other USSR countries = Mafia government. I love BIH, and i was born there and i was raised, i go on vacation once in while as we all know flight cards aren't cheap, but vacation isnt enough, i want to move back but i dont want to work for a corrupted government, which should have been destroyed 13 years ago. To me it seems that no one is doing crap to change BIH for benefit to the people and government of BIH. I could be wrong but hey thats my view. To answer fukara's question yea i was planing to be a pilot in OSBIH, but some time i wonder would i be doing the right thing, defending those ass whole president we have. I might be a pilot at France or USA if the BIH thing don't work out.
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Post by tito on Aug 11, 2008 18:11:54 GMT -5
the orientalist myth about "the Balkans" is to be killed with democracy. UN report: Balkans among safest regions in Europe11/08/2008 A recent, sharp decline in crime across the Balkans has turned the region into one of the safest in Europe, the UN Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) said in a report released earlier this summer. The rates of crimes against people, such as murder, rape and assault, as well as of property crimes, such as robbery and burglary, are now lower in the Balkan countries than in Western Europe, says the UNODC in the May 29th report. "Surprising as it may be, the Balkan region is one of the safest in Europe," UNODC Executive Director Antonio Maria Costa wrote in the preface. The positive developments reportedly stem from the greater political stability and democratisation that followed the initially chaotic breakup of Yugoslavia. International assistance, particularly from the EU, facilitated the region's postwar recovery, while the process of building closer ties with the Union opened borders and reduced the allure of smuggling. "The Balkans is departing from an era when demagogues, secret police and thugs profited from sanctions busting and the smuggling of people, arms, cigarettes and drugs," the report said. According to the UNODC, residents of the region are now as safe as, or safer than, those living almost anywhere else. "The vicious circle of political instability leading to crime, and vice versa, that plagued the Balkans in the 1990s, has been broken," Costa said in Brussels. Organised crime is also receding as a major threat, according to the UNODC. Drug trafficking is on the decline. Arms smuggling and human trafficking are also purportedly fading. But "enduring links [among] business, politics and organised crime" remain a serious challenge for the region, warned Costa. "Profiteers of the past are trying to launder their reputations and money through business and politics," he said. The report cited Albania as the country with the highest incidence of bribery (66% of respondents paid a bribe in 2006) among 57 nations surveyed, well above the 9% average for the region. Costa warned that corruption is "public enemy number one" in the Balkans.
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Post by bob1389 on Aug 11, 2008 18:20:57 GMT -5
Today is the most united Bosnia will ever get.
Yugoslavia was a failed project because you can't force different ethnic groups to live together. Especially considering what took place in the 90s.
You're either really naive or a big bloated metrosexual from Boston - to think otherwise.
Karadzic himself said it,
"Today, from the perspective of the Serbian nation, it is only acceptable to be independent, that we may not be dominated, that the numerical superiority of another nation doesn't influence us, that our fate will not be determined by the percentage of Muslims in Bosnia. That is our right!" - Radovan Karadžiæ in an interview, 1991
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