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Post by depletedreasons on Apr 1, 2008 1:40:15 GMT -5
Skopje regrets over defaced flagPosted: March 31, 2008 at 14:07 PM EST (19:07 PM GMT) The foreign minister of the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (FYROM), Antonio Milososki, on Monday expressed his "deep sorrow" over several billboard ads here that replaced the white Cross on the Greek flag with a Swastika. "It is a particularly unfortunate incident, which occurred during a particularly crucial moment," Milososki told the ANA-MPA. The FYROM minister also noted that he had spoke with Amb. Alexandra Papadopoulou, the head of the Greek Liaison Office in Skopje, to whom he expressed regrets over the appearance of the insulting billboards, reportedly stressing in Greek that "we were friends and friends we will remain". He also termed the content of the billboard ads as "abuse of the freedom of expression". "We must not allow such unacceptable acts, such as the appearance of billboards that insult Greece's national symbol, to damage relations between the countries," Milososki said. Amb. Papadopoulou had lodged a demarche with the government here on Sunday evening in protest of the billboard ads. The Swastika imagery on the Greek flag -- in place of the Cross -- was the first item covered by most television news programmes in Greece on Sunday evening, touching on a particularly sensitive nerve, given that the east Mediterranean country sustained monumental damages and loss of life during World War II during successive Italian and German invasions, followed by a triple occupation (1941-1944) by Nazi German, Italian fascist and Bulgarian troops. According to an ANA-MPA dispatch from Skopje, the controversial billboard ads ostensibly promote a photographic exhibition in the city's cultural centre from April 3 to May 3. US envoy in AthensMeanwhile, in Athens, US ambassador to Greece Daniel Speckhard issued a same-day statement on the disturbing development, noting that the "public display of the Greek flag drawn with a swastika instead of a white cross on billboards advertising an art exhibit in Skopje is understandably offensive to Greeks and others who suffered under fascism and Nazism during World War II. "We welcome official statements from Skopje disassociating the government from any such visual symbols or rhetoric." phantis.com/news/?newsID=20080331140654
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Post by Kassandros on Apr 1, 2008 12:26:16 GMT -5
Fyrom is in deep ultranationalistic crisis. Unfortunately their current PM is among the ultranationalists ones and he has spread that nationalism among its citizens. I wonder how can he take back what he spread among the population and how they will continue with their future.. I really wonder.. When Ultranatinalism appears in a country.... then that country is a matter of time to become an isolated one.
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Post by terroreign on Apr 1, 2008 14:48:29 GMT -5
The "ultranationalism" is a product of Fyrom's hostile neighbors, it has been isolated before it became "ultranationalistic". Think about that.
Its partly because of greece that Fyrom is full of ultra-nationalists
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Post by Kanaris on Apr 1, 2008 16:29:31 GMT -5
The faster we put this name issue behind us the faster we can be friends.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Apr 1, 2008 18:23:06 GMT -5
"Its partly because of greece that Fyrom is full of ultra-nationalists" No terro, its your Albanians who are nationalistic terrorists, Greece has her rights to protect what is hers. Vardar, imo, should immediately write a letter of appology to the Greek government. How dare them equate the Greeks with Nazism when they fought so valiantly against this Germanic idology in WW2.....do these people ever get imbrassed by this?....because l do.
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Post by ilirdardani on Apr 1, 2008 19:23:58 GMT -5
New Market, its actually the Serbs who are nationalist terrorists and murderers. 250,000+ people died in the Balkans in the 1990s in their hands. Millions expelled, thousands raped, hundreds of thousands of houses burned, billions of dollars damage all over the area.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Apr 1, 2008 20:17:38 GMT -5
^ Source?
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Post by Novi Pazar on Apr 1, 2008 20:26:07 GMT -5
While ilirdardani talks about destruction, what about the Albanian involvement, it all starts with the Prizren League back in the 19th century. Interesting thing to note readers is that the West FULLY funded the Albanian KLA to provoke unrest in kosovo through the channels of the BND, CIA, Mi6.
If the Vardarians took the Albanian flag and placed a Swastika on it, then they may justify their reasons since the Albanians had their SS groups roaming around the Balkans and terrorizing, however, to do this on the Greek flag is a MAJOR insult.
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Post by Kassandros on Apr 2, 2008 14:24:17 GMT -5
Terro "Its partly because of greece that Fyrom is full of ultra-nationalists" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Are you sure it wasnt Tito? I dont remember Greece pushing to you to ultranationalism when your countrys' name was Vardarska Banovina. Now if you mean Greece reacted.... do you believe it could be done a different way with 3,5 million Macedonians around the world pushing Athens not to compromise with Fyrom? Do you believe that the 1,5 million Macedonians of Greece will give up.. for the favor of 1 million Bulgarians of Fyrom? Of course no. So... if you want to continour like that... at least be ready for a war some day because that is what will happen unfortunately. Macedonian Struggle started the same way... maybe it will start again in a different way. To remind you... we won 7 times and every attack of Slavic population to Macedonia.. So... if you have at least 1 gram of brains... dont try it for 8th time.. Enjoy the fact that Greece is your only neighbor who does not want to invade you.
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Post by donnie on Apr 2, 2008 14:53:55 GMT -5
Oh stfu already! When did he say he was Albanian? Fender is as much a Serb as Terror is an Albanian; atleast Terror attacks Albanians occasionally as well, whereas Fender will defend Serbia from the Croats or anyone else in any topic whatsoever, even if defending demons such as Karadzic or Mladic! And Albania has nothng to do with this matter, so stop being such an obnoxious pr*ck just because your heart got smashed to little pieces February 17. Wtf does the Prizren League have to do with anything? And the League was only a reaction to Serbian agression against Albanians in the Nis region. Not "around the Balkans"; they were pretty much confined to Kosova. And it was just one SS group. And you Serbs had your own SS division as well.
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Post by fannoli on Apr 2, 2008 15:12:53 GMT -5
^ Good one Donnie. I'm tired of reading his nationalistic crap wasting forum space. Defamation of any flag is an insult. The End.
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Post by terroreign on Apr 2, 2008 15:34:22 GMT -5
Haha Novi I just laugh at your posts nowadays
And basil - Fyrom's name in Yugoslavia was Macedonia, I don't know if you were informed
It was only called "vardarska banovina" during the kingdom of yugoslavia, which didnt last too long after world war I
Greece attacked Fyrom politically, fairly recently, in 1991 after they got independence
This constant political attack largely by Greece led them to becoming ultra-nationalists and basically praying to Alexander the Great and renaming their airports
Now you have Fyrom slavs claiming lineage from Philip of Macedon
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Post by donnie on Apr 2, 2008 15:45:42 GMT -5
^ Good one Donnie. I'm tired of reading his nationalistic crap wasting forum space. Defamation of any flag is an insult. The End. He stopped making sense a long time ago. But he still needs to be put to his place.
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Post by Kassandros on Apr 2, 2008 16:17:30 GMT -5
Terro "Greece attacked Fyrom politically, fairly recently, in 1991 after they got independence" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ You're mistaken. Macedonians attacked politicaly Fyrom because they didnt want to become Slavs in papers. People like me pushed Greece to attack. It was not Greece as a tottal. We are their problem... not Atheneans.
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Post by slvsdied4you on Apr 2, 2008 16:29:40 GMT -5
You are no problem for us true Macedonians . Lets tango
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Post by Kanaris on Apr 2, 2008 16:33:32 GMT -5
Okay..you're the girl...
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Post by Kassandros on Apr 2, 2008 16:33:42 GMT -5
True Macedonians in 1908 kicked you out from Macedonia Bulgare. Remember that. Not Pontians no Greek refugees from Asia Minor. We did it! Remember us. We gonna do it again. Remember us. We are your nightimare.... We... the Macedonians.
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Post by slvsdied4you on Apr 2, 2008 16:45:57 GMT -5
You have injected crack cocaine in your system man from Syria . (bla bla bla. Just remember me. We kicked out of Macedonia.. not Syria Voulgare.. lol lol )
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Post by panagiotopoulos on Apr 2, 2008 16:54:23 GMT -5
A lack of balls or anything concrete to back up what Fyrom Gypsies has to say leads to this kind of nationalist crap. "We don't have a leg to stand on, so lets brainwash the hell out of our people and see what kind of conflict we can create." These people are so brainwashed that they do not even realize that at one point they were Bulgarians who actually fought alongside the NAZIS during World war 2. Their stupidity truly is puzzling to an educated person from a civilized country who knows how to use his brain. Really, very troubling that stupid people like these exist. But hey only the strong and smart survive. I guess time will tell.
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Post by Kassandros on Apr 2, 2008 17:08:47 GMT -5
Time HAS told. They were brainwashed back then too. You know what happend in 1908. We have the treatment for them.. an eternal treatment and therapy... And do you know what hearts them more Panagiotopoule? They lost from us ONLY! Only from the Macedonians without official Greece's army help. We kicked them out ALONE! We and them.. ALONE! They got kicked out by real Macedonians! That is what it hearts more.... lol lol Thats why they never mention the Macedonian Struggle.
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