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Post by rex362 on Mar 31, 2008 16:22:30 GMT -5
Didn't spread Albanian language, didn't spread Albanian culture.
spread...... he spread vast fires ,devastation and subjugated everything south of Macedonia ...put his face on coins for them ....they all bowed ....now he is their hero ... when he died the ancient city states threw a party ......
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Post by pagane on Mar 31, 2008 16:28:04 GMT -5
That too, Rex, but you can not explain those times from today's point of view. And you can not deny that he spread hellenistic culture and language wherever he went. Anyway, this doesn't change the fact he had nothing to do with Albania.
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Post by greek1234 on Mar 31, 2008 16:28:41 GMT -5
Whats your point?
The Athenians and Thebens would have done the exact same thing. And don't bother bringing Thebes up, just read Arrian he clearly states the pillaging was done by the Greek troops in reprisal for the Thebens allying themselves with the Persians. And anyway he built more then he destroyed.
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Post by slowdent on Mar 31, 2008 16:28:43 GMT -5
rex
out of the cave again?
about the "destroyer" you r talking about, when he entered Persepolis he sent loot to ATHENS (to his "subjects - victims") with the inscription "from all Greek except Lacedemonians".
and when the "destroyer" was in Afganistan his "oppressed subjects" did not even rebel against him.
you must be a genius in history.
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Post by atlantis on Mar 31, 2008 16:28:48 GMT -5
thats for you slowdent......don't spread your post to lose the interes for the link brought by books ....the books are diffrent from sites propoganda
THE HISTORIE OF NATVRE, WRITTEN BY C. PLINIVS SECVNDVS.
Of old Latins, the Cascantenses, Erganicenses, Gracchuritanes, leonicenses, Ossigerdenses. Of confederates within the league, the Tarragenses. Tributaries besides, the Arcobricenses, Andologenses, Arocelitanes, Bursaonenses, Calaguritanes surnamed Fibularenses, complutenses, Carenses, Cincenses, Cortonenses, Dammanitanes, latrenses, Iturisenses, Ispalenses, Ilumberitanes, Lacetanes, Vibienses, Pompelonenses and Segienses. There resort to Carthage for law 62 severall States, besides the Islanders. Out of the Colonie Accitana, the Gemellenses, also Libisosona surnamed Foroaugustana: which two are endued with the franchises of Italie: out of the Colonie Salariensis, the Oppidanes of old Latium, Castulonenses, whom Cæsar calleth Venales. The Setabitanes, who are also Augustanes, and the Valerrienses. But of the Tributaries, of greatest name bee the Babanenses, the Bascianes, the Consaburenses, Dianenses, Egelestanes, Ilorcitani, Laminitani, Mentesani, the same that Oritani; and the Mentesani who otherwise are Bastuli: Oretanes who also are called Germani, the cheefe of the Celtiberians, the Segobrigenses, and the Toletanes of Carpetania, dwelling upon the river Tagus. Next to them the Viacienses and Virgilienses. To the assises or law court Cluniensis, the Varduli bring fourteene nations; of which I list to name none but the Albanenses.
Conclusion
7, All the latins derives from Albanenses
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Post by rex362 on Mar 31, 2008 16:29:53 GMT -5
spread ....?
he could of spread communism or peanut butter .....
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Post by pagane on Mar 31, 2008 16:31:42 GMT -5
Whatever the word, is this your best argument?
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Post by Niklianos on Mar 31, 2008 16:33:42 GMT -5
Herodotus sad. Alexander,as a kid, did not participate in greek Olympic games (Athina),he was not aloud to, because he was called barbarian.(means not greek) BULLSH*T!! Nowhere in Herodotus does it make such a claim! NO WHERE!! You also need to learn the differences between Alexander the 1st and Alexander the 3rd! Alexander the first(498-454B.C.E) was at first refused to compete in the Olympics because he was thought to be non-Greek(NOT BARBARIAN). Next, he was allowed to compete after proving he was descended from Argos(Thus the Argaed line claimed by Alexander the Greats paternal line!). He did compete and he tied for first. Here's a little something on Alexander 1. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_I_of_MacedonAlexander the 3rd(The Great who reigned from 336-323B.C.E) refused to compete in the Olympics because he thought it unfair to compete against those who were not kings! No other reason. Also the Olympics were not Athenian but Olympian from Olympia in the western Peleponnese!Finally, Barbarian does not only mean non-Greek but also uncivilized!
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Post by rex362 on Mar 31, 2008 16:34:17 GMT -5
Filip was imprisoned at one time in Thebes ...
barbarian then = a language one cannot understand ...
barbar / barbelit ....
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Post by greek1234 on Mar 31, 2008 16:35:37 GMT -5
And as for you 'Atlantis' stop miss using the ancient texts then claiming that we are spreading propoganda. Its pathetic, Alexander the great was not born at the time of Herodotus and this is what Herodotus has to say about Alexander the 1st and the Macedonians during the "Great Persian Invasion".
"They at once, hearing this, made haste to the outpost, where they found Alexander, who addressed them as follows: Men of Athens, that which I am about to say I trust to your honor; and I charge you to keep it secret from all excepting Pausanias, if you would not bring me to destruction. Had I not greatly at heart the common welfare of Greece, I should not have come to tell you; but I am myself greek by descent, and I would not willingly see Greece exchange freedom for slavery. Know then that Mardonius and his army cannot obtain favorable omens; had it not been for this, they would have fought with you long ago. Now, however, they have determined to let the victims pass unheeded, and, as soon as day dawns, to engage in battle. Mardonius, I imagine, is afraid that, if he delays, you will increase in number. Make ready then to receive him. Should he however still defer the combat, do you abide where you are; for his provisions will not hold out many more days. If ye prosper in this war, forget not to do something for my freedom; consider the risk I have run, out of zeal for the Greek cause, to acquaint you with what Mardonius intends, and to save you from being surprised by the barbarians. I am Alexander of Macedon. "
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Post by Niklianos on Mar 31, 2008 16:36:21 GMT -5
Check this out!
Alexander = Alexander in ancient Greek!! Wow amazing how there is actually a word which existed in Ancient Greek since before the time of Alexander the 1st that was actually Alexander(Alexandros in Greek).
Alexander = Protector of men. Alex = Protector Ander = Man ;D
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Post by slowdent on Mar 31, 2008 16:37:54 GMT -5
atlantis do not tell me you figured this out by yourself..... your source penelope.uchicago.edu/holland/pliny3.htmlin there there is a text of 16.721 words where the word Albanenses appears only once as a mention of one of 14 nations that the varduli brought.......... google varduli and most probably you will see that the albanenses were the pets of the varduli. i told you to think before you paste
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Post by rex362 on Mar 31, 2008 16:38:25 GMT -5
names of ancient Macedons were not used in other areas .....
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Post by Niklianos on Mar 31, 2008 16:38:46 GMT -5
That's not a argument my frend ...you know very well Albanian were organized always from kings we are talking about that deep in history ...not now..... Albanian is a real palasgian culture ,It is the origin,here for you to understand more..... www.plaveguci.eu/gjuhet%20indo%20europ.jpgwait for the bottom of the tree..... According to Scanderbeg you always do...but looks silly now.... I am still waiting on your proof of claiming Pelasgian = Albanian or even Pelasgian = Illyrian!
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Post by greek1234 on Mar 31, 2008 16:40:08 GMT -5
Welcome back Niklianos. Im very thankful that we have you here to keep these Albanians and Skopjians where they belong.
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Post by rex362 on Mar 31, 2008 16:40:41 GMT -5
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Post by greek1234 on Mar 31, 2008 16:43:11 GMT -5
Albanian animals eating of Greek and Italian history. Rex362 stop dreaming okay.
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Post by slowdent on Mar 31, 2008 16:43:34 GMT -5
hey nik
they could not prove sth even simpler: Albanian = Illyrian
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Post by slowdent on Mar 31, 2008 16:45:43 GMT -5
rex nice site. check the disclaimer: The Purpose of this website
I love the language. Simplistic: Me tarzan, you jane
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Post by rex362 on Mar 31, 2008 16:50:15 GMT -5
whats an alcotest ?
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