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Post by ilirdardani on Apr 1, 2008 7:08:31 GMT -5
Sad..... OF course it's difficult.... no one knew of them before 1200..... they came after the Slav migrations.... Then I suggest you stop reading Serbian propaganda. The real greek historians know that Albanians have been in the Balkans just as long as the Greek have been. Oh yeah, another thing, we were the ones that helped your govt get its legs and kick out ottoman empire. You don't need to thank us, because we didn't do it for favors but for freedom.
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Post by slowdent on Apr 1, 2008 7:32:52 GMT -5
illir
there is no proof of albanians being illirians.
heck, there is no proof that you come from today's Albania since the other two albanias (1 in caucasus and on in colombia) are far more ancient than yours.....
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Post by atlantis on Apr 1, 2008 8:16:15 GMT -5
Sad..... Oh yeah, another thing, we were the ones that helped your govt get its legs and kick out ottoman empire. You don't need to thank us, because we didn't do it for favors but for freedom. great argument Ilir, Bravo.
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Post by Arxileas on Apr 1, 2008 8:49:32 GMT -5
Potes den tha yinete Ellines.
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Post by rex362 on Apr 1, 2008 9:28:04 GMT -5
That is fabricated.... there was no ALbans back then.... the writings are a hoax... it's like saying they were Canadians...... how dumb can one be?
then how did GREEK get in there ?
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Post by slowdent on Apr 1, 2008 11:08:44 GMT -5
rex
good work man now you fixed it
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Post by atlantis on Apr 1, 2008 12:44:06 GMT -5
atlantis do not tell me you figured this out by yourself..... your source penelope.uchicago.edu/holland/pliny3.htmlin there there is a text of 16.721 words where the word Albanenses appears only once as a mention of one of 14 nations that the varduli brought.......... google varduli and most probably you will see that the albanenses were the pets of the varduli. i told you to think before you paste Oh really ...you sure..... Titus Livius or Livy [Chapters 22-25] "Hear, O Jupiter; hear, O pater patratus of the Alban people, and ye, O Alban people, give ear. www.ancientworlds.net/aw/Article/464151if you want more I bring you as mach as you wont from roman sources ....maybe he is accorded to chinese Albans
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Post by slowdent on Apr 1, 2008 13:36:46 GMT -5
I am sure. r u? i bet you will So it figures: St Albans all over the UK , dr Alban are all Albanians it is accorded to South American Albanians.....
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Post by terroreign on Apr 1, 2008 14:49:46 GMT -5
The ancient Albanians were from Azerbaijan
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Post by terroreign on Apr 1, 2008 14:51:07 GMT -5
Which Macedonia Was Alexander the Great From?Arxileas, thats not an accurate map, Greater Macedonia (During the roman empire) included all of Fyrom, including Skopje This is what matters
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Post by ilirdardani on Apr 1, 2008 14:55:12 GMT -5
Skopje together with Nis was under Dardanian rule, so actually the map is right.
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Post by terroreign on Apr 1, 2008 15:52:13 GMT -5
Who knows maybe, at one point...But heres something real for you and arxileas Its pretty clear to me, that Fyrom has a historical and geographical right to name their country Macedonia Just like Romania could call themselves Dacia if they choose
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Post by Kastorianos on Apr 1, 2008 18:06:31 GMT -5
Thats a map of the roman empire, it shows the province Macedonia, formed by the romans, it has nothing to do with the original ancient Macedonia.
And...we will see if they have the right to be called Makedonia.
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Post by ilirdardani on Apr 1, 2008 19:25:48 GMT -5
Yeah, Skopje (or Shkupi) at one time used to be the Dardan capital, so things changed from time to time, but with the current borders, they don't deserve the name Macedonia.
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Post by Niklianos on Apr 1, 2008 22:39:17 GMT -5
Interesting how Albanians claim EVERYTHING that is listed as Alb or Alba, etc.
Didn't one of you say that the Albanians were originally a mountainous, herding society during the Illyrian period and that the term only gained prominence in the 11th century A.C.E??
So if Albanian only became the term used for your people in the 11 century then how can the Alban of Italy be the same people? Or the Alban mountains be named after that remote mountainous Illyrian tribe especially when those Albanians in the 11th century had no maritime terminology?
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Post by Niklianos on Apr 1, 2008 22:55:49 GMT -5
Did you all know that the Albanians also migrated to central Mexico in the Ancient times as well? www.igougo.com/attractions-reviews-b93871-Oaxaca-Hiking_around_Mt._Alban.html64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:53t22r5HG3EJ:www.callwild.com/pdf/mexicooaxaca.pdf+Mt+Alban&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=11&gl=usOaxaca is also renowned for its quality arts and crafts, pyramids and ruins, and local markets. A highlight of our trip is our tour of the Monte Alban ruins, which provides an historical glimpse into Mesoamerica civilization dating all the way back to 500 BC. And check out the meaning and origin of the name 'Alban'! www.thinkbabynames.com/meaning/1/AlbanMore on the name. www.redoakgrove.org/aboutrog/terms.htmlalban: [AHL-bahn] a presumably obsolete Welsh word refering to the solistices and equinoxes as "points" More! 64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:0O_k7Ikj_ZAJ:controversialhistory.blogspot.com/2008/01/origin-of-name-afghan.html+Meaning+of+the+Term+Alban+in+Latin&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=6&gl=usH. W. Bellew, in his book An Enquiry into the Ethnography of Afghanistan, believes that the name Afghan derives from the Latin term Alban, used by Armenians as Alvan or Alwan, which refers to mountaineers, and in the case of transliterated Armenian characters, would be pronounced as Aghvan or Aghwan. To the Persians, this would further be altered to Aoghan, Avghan, and Afghan as a reference to the highlanders or "mountaineers" of the eastern Iranian plateau. Another interesting origin of the word Alban! German! www.treasurerealm.com/coinpapers/dictionary/A.htmlAlbansgulden - (The term Alban prefaced other demoninations as well). A name given to coins struck at the Noble Priory of St Alban's at Mainz. They show the saint holding his severed head in his hands. {From German Alban (the name of the Priory where the coin was struck) + GULDEN.} [German States] So is Alban Albanian or connected to the remote Illyrian tribe the Albanians? I would really like to know your thoughts on this!
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Post by Kanaris on Apr 1, 2008 22:59:13 GMT -5
I didn't know they had color maps back then...
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Post by Teuta1975 on Apr 1, 2008 23:31:42 GMT -5
and there is no proof of Albanians not being Illyrians....as well as : ...there is no proof of Albanians being from Caucasus!!! PS: what is considered as proof
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Post by slowdent on Apr 2, 2008 0:29:14 GMT -5
Niklianos I told you. Albanian people come from south America. they migrated here. there is evidence for this all over the place: Albany in the states, St albans in UK, Dr Alban in Sweden, the symbol of the eagle on every harley davidson motor..... Teuta teuta, there is no proof that Albanians are not chinese, mongolians or papua either. is it safe to say they are? Terroreign thank you for the map. it demolishes the claims of atlantis that ancient romans called the place Albania. (you just cannot help it hurting yourselves don't you?) nice question. Teuta you have been around for such a long time, that I think you can answer this question yourself if you put aside your albanian ego.
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Post by terroreign on Apr 2, 2008 2:56:41 GMT -5
SlowDent - lol do I care what they called albania or w/e? I said Albanians came from Azerbaijan
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