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Post by proleteriat on Nov 16, 2008 19:40:28 GMT -5
Scene from an AA meeting:
My name is (fill in the blank) and I'm an Arvanite.
Welcome (fill in the blank) tell us your story. lmao
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Post by Kanaris on Nov 16, 2008 19:52:14 GMT -5
Arvanites are nothing more than pure Greeks who lived 'up' there in the mountains... they always knew their place and when the call came they came 'down' to help mother Greece. Now you can sugar coat it... and tell me about some misinformed arvanites wannabees.... and their sob stories about being Albanian.... first.. but we all know that is just propaganda from the commie machine... that has brainwashed a whole lot of you.... like Jesus said on the cross...'Father forgive them for they not know what they do"..I forgive you ... and let you spew logodiarrhea all over yourselves. ;D
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Post by proleteriat on Nov 16, 2008 20:00:41 GMT -5
Arvanites are nothing more than pure Greeks who lived 'up' there in the mountains... they always knew their place and when the call came they came 'down' to help mother Greece. Now you can sugar coat it... and tell me about some misinformed arvanites wannabees.... and their sob stories about being Albanian.... first.. but we all know that is just propaganda from the commie machine... that has brainwashed a whole lot of you.... like Jesus said on the cross...'Father forgive them for they not know what they do"..I forgive you ... and let you spew logodiarrhea all over yourselves. ;D and what they wrote...what do u make of that?? Don't tell me they used dictionary because I know Arvanitka dialect when I see it... as far as Commie machine lol...obviously no one in here likes hearing the truth from the horses mouth....becuase I knwo who had the upper hand during Communism, other Albaninas know, that's why most them hate xhaxhi Enver.... we can pretend the dialect they used was Commie propoganda though, if that makes you happy.
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Post by Kanaris on Nov 16, 2008 20:13:49 GMT -5
Of course they had a dialect..I have one and I' m from Chios.... I hope they had a dialect..they were living among Albanians. Some of them actually believe that they are Albanians.... whatever turns them on..I will still sleep well tonight. FYI..... if I am not careful with the I way I talk when I'm in Athens, half the words are not understood... I get these looks>>>
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Post by proleteriat on Nov 16, 2008 21:12:09 GMT -5
Of course they had a dialect..I have one and I' m from Chios.... I hope they had a dialect..they were living among Albanians. Some of them actually believe that they are Albanians.... whatever turns them on..I will still sleep well tonight. FYI..... if I am not careful with the I way I talk when I'm in Athens, half the words are not understood... I get these looks>>> I see no difference between them and southern Albanians, especially when they write this: ;D ore budallaçk kaq koqe kandari ku e e dike ti se une qekam ta gifsha kurve
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Post by Kanaris on Nov 16, 2008 21:14:31 GMT -5
Ti je palaço.
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Post by meltdown711 on Nov 16, 2008 21:51:50 GMT -5
Thats close Karta. As in Greek the negative generally begins the sentence in Alb, just you used the Greek ou(k) when in Alb its actually 'nuk'. Nevertheless, its so close few would tell the difference.
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Post by Mimi on Nov 17, 2008 11:47:35 GMT -5
Arvanitas are of Albanian ancestry we all know that but greeks are indinial as they dont wanna face the truth cuz then it would mean that we were right all along. they were taugh to believe arvanitas are greek so they dont have to take any responsibility of what happened to them in the past...greeks way of turning everything greek is , they cant never admit or recognize anything and that is annoying arrogans in your part. today Arvaniats are messed up and confused ppl totally brainwashed, i feel pretty sorry for them cuz deep down it seems that they dont really know what they are and what could be worse then losing and betraying yourself?. you tell them they are greeks, facts tell them otherwise but they lived a greek lifestyle just like everyone else in Greece as they were not allowed to call themselves albanian, they were treated badly then. greeks did not stop messing with their head untill their albanism died out and we were not there to defend it, we were to weak as we faced occupations efter occupations(and other challenges) and lost them. but what i dont understand is why they still call themselves arvanitas if they feel greek? and many also speak arvanitas to. arbresh maintained they culture and language for 500 years and for that they deserve praise and huge respect. very strong willed.
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Post by tsompanos on Nov 17, 2008 12:27:19 GMT -5
wow mimi thanks for enlightening us ! why shouldnt we take your word for it! a girl from the us with the mental capacity of my left nut , the arvanites brainwashed ? they dont live in Albania so i dont think any brainwashing went on , by the way did you feel sorry for them when they killed albanians to liberate Greece?
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Post by rex362 on Nov 17, 2008 12:45:14 GMT -5
easy with your potty mouth on Mimi
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Post by sotneser on Nov 17, 2008 13:05:32 GMT -5
wow mimi thanks for enlightening us ! why shouldnt we take your word for it! a girl from the us with the mental capacity of my left nut , the arvanites brainwashed ? they dont live in Albania so i dont think any brainwashing went on , by the way did you feel sorry for them when they killed albanians to liberate Greece? this is coming from you...and who the fuck are you to take your word? What an idiot. I have to admit, you guys do come in packages, the first one packed is always kartadolofonos.
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Post by proleteriat on Nov 17, 2008 13:44:51 GMT -5
wow mimi thanks for enlightening us ! why shouldnt we take your word for it! a girl from the us with the mental capacity of my left nut , the arvanites brainwashed ? they dont live in Albania so i dont think any brainwashing went on , by the way did you feel sorry for them when they killed albanians to liberate Greece? I think she lives in Sveden like you And yea, she's saying Arvanites should feel Albanian even though they've lived in Greece for hundreds of yers, meanwhile she has an American flag as an avatar, oh the irony..
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Post by lozonjare on Nov 17, 2008 14:58:06 GMT -5
Even if they don't feel Albanian, I still think they deserve credit for keeping their culture for so long. Assimilation really didn't start happening untill after the Greek Revolution. The fact that the language survives to this day says a lot. Many of them(the educated ones) do recognize their medieval Albanian origins, they just don't feel like Modern Albanians, nothing you can do about that. I don't think they hate Albanians as much as some of you think, if they hated us so much, then why would they have helped Albanian immigrants when they first immigrated to Greece?
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Post by Mimi on Nov 17, 2008 22:34:40 GMT -5
naw Rex your to cute lol ;D
I never said for you to take my words for it, there are facts out there that proves it, Arvanites are of ancestry. we all know how they ended up in Greece. i cant believe that something that abvious can be denied.
No i did not say that they should feel modern albanian cuz that is impossible efter all those years, one day you have to to integrat and every year that goes by you become more and more like the rest of them, you sink in to the society eventually. BUT they should recognise their orgins and face the truth and not be cowards.(for those who dont)
so if i have the emerican flag as my avatar? i have it for a reason.
bay the way i am not from USA, I live in Sweden.
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Post by Arxileas on Nov 18, 2008 8:05:40 GMT -5
Arvanites dont consider THEMSELVES Albanians at all.
The Greek position is leaded only from the social reality in Greek society, a reality unknown to Albanians prior to 1991. Unless the Albanian nationalism knows better the Greek society rather than Greeks themselves ?
Typical Albanian nationalistic mainframe, I suppose, leaded by inaccurate or manipulated facts and or total misconception of the historic truths.
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Post by proleteriat on Nov 18, 2008 10:39:41 GMT -5
Arvanites dont consider THEMSELVES Albanians at all. The Greek position is leaded only from the social reality in Greek society, a reality unknown to Albanians prior to 1991. Unless the Albanian nationalism knows better the Greek society rather than Greeks themselves ? Typical Albanian nationalistic mainframe, I suppose, leaded by inaccurate or manipulated facts and or total misconception of the historic truths. . They may not consider themselves Albanian but we do, in fact all Greeks came from Pelasgians (Albanian race ;D)
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Post by rex362 on Nov 18, 2008 10:44:40 GMT -5
all Greeks came from Pelasgians (Albanian race ;D)
the real historic greeks that is ....not these amateur's
I can only see 2 greeks here that are from Pelasgian stock 1 knows it & the other one cant fathom it
2k's ;D
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Post by Kanaris on Nov 18, 2008 12:07:38 GMT -5
I think I must be from leftover Celtic stock. ;D
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Post by panagiotopoulos on Nov 18, 2008 14:02:08 GMT -5
I am left over Turkish. That is why I have curly hair like a black man, am well endowed and six foot eight.
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Post by kasso on Nov 18, 2008 14:22:12 GMT -5
Arvanites are nothing more than pure Greeks That's like saying that the ancient Macedonians are the ancestors to the modern Macedonians
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