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Post by kartadolofonos on May 27, 2008 20:49:13 GMT -5
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Post by filomen on May 28, 2008 2:58:17 GMT -5
so y think that the batle of termopile was i kind of sacrific of the spartan army ?? I dont think so
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Post by slowdent on May 28, 2008 4:46:37 GMT -5
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Post by filomen on May 29, 2008 2:06:53 GMT -5
who Herodotus... of course he had said this but the reality was a bit diferent as many professors today sey. Was the spartan army a profesional one or they was just vilagers,
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Post by slowdent on May 29, 2008 3:28:15 GMT -5
just read the link I gave you.....
and about the spartan army: if you google it you get 231000 results. you do not need us to answer to your question
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Post by filomen on May 29, 2008 4:38:19 GMT -5
here we are dear slowdent, the spartan army was a profesionist one and as profesionist they will be go back from termopile to front again the persian army cose the taktikal retreat is one of the beter startegy that the militars have had from the antic egyptian until today in every war.. The same gap made to me my proffesor cose alsou I was convicted that the spartan sacrifice themself but I have now to rebelive this
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Post by slowdent on May 29, 2008 7:17:31 GMT -5
filomen
Spartan were born soldiers and their whole purpose in life was to be a good soldier....... there was no professional organisation of the spartan army at the time of leonidas that is why you had 300 Spartans dead and not 300 Spartans running to save their lives
greetings to your professor
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Post by Kanaris on May 29, 2008 7:33:30 GMT -5
Filomen..you need to read your books. We don't care what some lame professor says....
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Post by jerryspringer on May 29, 2008 9:24:15 GMT -5
This guy must be one of those 'Yahac doctors'.
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Post by Kanaris on May 29, 2008 9:26:23 GMT -5
I am really surprised at Yahac..a guy with a doctorate in medicine.... talking about "his" God like that..
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Post by Niklianos on May 29, 2008 17:34:46 GMT -5
Filomen,
it is quite an accepted fact that the Spartans at Thermopylae under Leonidas knew exactly what the outcome was going to be. Leonidas sent the vast majority of the Allied Greeks home just before the battle. It was himself and 299 other Spartans and around 1000 other Greeks who remained behind to defend the pass so that the main defenses of the Greeks had time to be set up.
Spartans were always told to never come home unless they were victorious or dead on their shield. There is a famous quote with similar words of a Spartan mother telling her son that. It was heavy shame and guilt to leave the battle field if you were still alive and defeated. This is what made the Spartans such great warriors, they fought as hard as they could because they knew there was no honor in retreat and they would never be able to return home.
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Post by filomen on Jun 4, 2008 5:00:58 GMT -5
Im not seing nothing against spartans i was grow up reading about antichity especialy the Eskiles tragedy from janis benekos and other books (during komunist regim i never read nothing against greecs ) so kanaris I have read alot about the idea is so clear If they were profesionist they could retreat to afront the enemy again I think that they were in gap and so decide honorificly to die cose I cant think that the spartan was like the Fon Paulus soldier anittas y can never divide yself from your tsiganis origins
by the way the proff (english origin) teach Iranian filology so I can understand his disapoint
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Post by slowdent on Jun 4, 2008 7:21:15 GMT -5
filomen
if they were professionals, the persian king would have bought them as he did with most of the people he found on his path to Europe.
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Post by filomen on Jun 5, 2008 3:27:34 GMT -5
dont mistake profesionalism with traditor of the contry cose the spartan werent mercenares
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Post by slowdent on Jun 5, 2008 7:57:32 GMT -5
professionals means $$$ and they always play for the highest bidder.
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Post by PARIS DIO_MYSUS! on Jun 5, 2008 13:35:19 GMT -5
Let say that they are albanians and greeks that have seen same wars and always altogether have fought until win against the only one international enemie romans.
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Post by greek1234 on Jun 6, 2008 1:55:35 GMT -5
Greeks and Romans shared a lot of culture.
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Post by PARIS DIO_MYSUS! on Jun 6, 2008 9:17:35 GMT -5
Yeah, but because romans tryed copy greece and greeks they failed ;D. Greeks are on High GO ELLAS !
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Post by panagiotopoulos on Jun 6, 2008 9:55:00 GMT -5
Yeah, but because romans tryed copy greece and greeks they failed ;D. Greeks are on High GO ELLAS ! Greco-Roman culture in my personal opinion was the pinnacle of world civilization. We are mere peons compared to those who came before us.
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Post by PARIS DIO_MYSUS! on Jun 6, 2008 10:37:22 GMT -5
Hey... don't mix hellens with romans. Both these been, still are and always will be against each other and both have totally different stories. GO ELLAS !
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