All that is good... but what I know is Athens was burning for nearly a month and that still pains me.. and it's not even over yet... What are they going to do with that mess? Right about now I see Greece going downhill... maybe when we hit rock bottom... we can start climbing again....
Post by kartadolofonos on Jan 19, 2009 11:23:24 GMT -5
ean thelis na matheis ti pextike me tis foties to kalokairi stin Pelopenissos kai stin Athina diavasa tis leptomeries me to link kai tis plirofories pou tha sou stilo mesou email sxedio apostatheropoiseis tis ellados
Everything started when Karamalis said 3 big NO to Americans. The firtst in Annan plan in Cyprous. He didnt push the Cyrpiot PM as American expected Second the Veto to Fyrom/Nato. Americans really pissed off Third and the worst... he dared to sign a deal with Russians for the gas. This way he didnt accept Americans to have the monopoly of gas pipes.
These 3 moves made Karamanli the target.
Silmutaneously Bulgarian govnt has the same problems in Bulgaria.
Americans want different govnts in Greece and Bulgaria and all these are destabilization factors for the present govnts. The funny thing is that left-wing parties in Greece help the American plans... and right-wing parties are pro-Russian. Only in Greece!
Last Edit: Jan 20, 2009 10:09:48 GMT -5 by Kassandros
Post by kartadolofonos on Jan 20, 2009 16:17:51 GMT -5
olla arxisan me ayto to dimosievma tis efimeridas ayrianis otan kerdise o obama tis ekloges kai ta sxoleia pou egrapse gia tous evraious tis amerikis epikratise pandemonio to xaos stin ellada oi mystikes ypirisies cia kai mossad epiasan doulia kai stin evraiki efimerida haaretz ta sxoleia olo kai perisotera itan empristika gia tous ellines kai tin ellada
Kanaris its how the world works. When a global "friendly" superpower want something to change in you country... they dont use F-16s. They use F-16's in a non-friendly country. In the case of Greece they use money. Money for columinsts for newspapers for media etc etc. These are the new bosses. When you see suddenly a mass reproduction of BBC and CNN news from ALL over the media in Greece, when you see suddenly ALL the newspaper writing down EXACTLY the same stuff about an incident you saw with your own eyes in TV ...and they promote it with a different view.. that means something.
Example. Some shop owner in the city centers of Larisa and Irakleio were in front of their shops one night and they were protecting their shop. They had taken with them some friends, brothers, relatives and they were with globs there waiting for the attack of the anarchists. They were there to protect their shops. ALL... media.. and I say ALL!.. were telling us that "Skinheads" were there to confront and hit the "demonstrators"! They were telling that.... the same time we had vision of the scene!
Kanaris.. really... NOT EVEN ONE Skinhead there... NOT EVEN ONE simple demonstator there. I know how skinheads are. For sure a bald guy around 60 with a huge stomach and his 20 year old son... are not .. typical skinheads On the other side... a 30 year old with a hoody and a molotov coctail in his hand... is not a typical student demonstrator.
Media were ALL trying to show the world how bad is the right-wing people who kick innocent demonstators, and how bad and government controled is the police force that does not arrest these "skinheads". The funny thing is... WE WERE WATCHING IT! Our vision was tottaly different from what we were hearing.
I can tell you 1000 more examples about the last 6 months since Karamalis signed the deal with Gazprom.
Really now.. dont you find it weird.. to have a Greek governemtn for 5 years without ANY problem.... and suddenly.. in a period of 6 months.. you see more than 6 HUGE scandals that ALL Media reproducing them ALL day?
Despite that, continously we see journalists to have problems with the Taxis offices for 5-10 million euros in their bank accounts. Money that they CANNOT excuse. See Themos Anastasiadis, Makis Triantafylopoulos etc etc.
US interfearance will not be with F'16's. It will be with opinion makers. Change of government change of plans.
US wants Giorgos Papandreou or Dora Bakogianni for PM of the country. They say always "yes". For sure, not Karamalis.
Last Edit: Jan 21, 2009 4:47:43 GMT -5 by Kassandros
Emperor AAdmin: Sorry Rexxy, that is just a win for Swiss. Plain and simple. Where certain players origins are from ... who cares... it was all for swiss colors my friend...I am afraid noone is connecting Albanians to this game in any shape or form hahahaha
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Rusyn: Who knows, maybe they think Switzerland is part of Albania also
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rex362: oh the politics of football.......ok then ....dont let me find you as being hypocrites if I find/see any post of you highlighting any serbian players on any other countries sport teams
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rex362: fricken hooligans
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bosnett23: Pozzz svima ako imate želju da proučite više o historiji Bosne, Ilirima idr....preporučujem svakako www.bosnett.com dobar arhiv knjiga i postova. Stranica ima funkcije poput FB. L.P.
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Rusyn: hahaha bosnia have no history.. plz get real dude
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Pyrros: AAADmine why do let you Caucasians Cherkesian ANTI-GREEKS, ANTI-ORHTODOX ppl (Leandros Nikon) to lock threads ?
Jan 5, 2023 3:52:22 GMT -5
Pyrros: bosnett jos vise anglosaksonski lazi?
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Emperor AAdmin: Vatra feel free to open a threat about that topic in Greece Forum and we can discuss there. Thanks.
Jan 8, 2023 6:14:59 GMT -5
Pyrros: Admine, you are a fair and cool Serb. I acknowledge that. But too many freedoms have a bad ending. It lets albs and other cherkesians (like Leandros Nikon) multiply.
Jan 8, 2023 9:08:38 GMT -5
rex362: ahahahaha.....too many freedoms ahahaha...cherk-whatever ahahahah....fair & cool serb ahahahahah...you ass kissing communist ahahahahah bad ending-for who ? you ? aahhaahhahhaaa
Jan 8, 2023 13:21:46 GMT -5
leandros nikon: pyro is funny guy of the forum.I am cherkesian?No man i am Asia minor Greek!on the other hand you are a confused Greek,mperdemenos eisai!
Jan 8, 2023 15:45:09 GMT -5
Rusyn: @leandros nikon Vatra is "fire" in Serbian, and Pyrros is Greek equvialent of that name. Also Pyrros was used to be known as Kralj Vatra in his older accounts hence Admin calls him both ways.
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