Trazi Vise
Amicus
Today's "church" has NOTHING to do with religion.
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Post by Trazi Vise on May 25, 2009 1:22:25 GMT -5
manijak, sure you gota move on. I just don't get how she can forget so easily. It;s not about being sad (trust me she's not all there because of what happened as I'm sure she went through so much more than anyone will ever know)
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Post by Ja Ona i Pivo on May 25, 2009 3:48:57 GMT -5
Manijak, mogu ti reci iz iskustva da srbi u rs slusaju Dinu vise od srba u Srbiji. Neznam sto bi bio neki problem ako bi on pjevao u RS,u. Ako srbi to hoce u Banja Luci to bi se vec dogodilo.
Samo primjetio sam jednu stvar, kad kod pricate o RS i Federaciji u pozitivnom smislu onda smo kao jedni, a cim nesto u negativnom onda smo "mi" i "oni", "RS" i "Federacija". Ako se nesto lose desi u Banja Luci onda je to RS. Cim nesto pozitivno OOoOOj moja bosno.
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Post by fazlinho on May 25, 2009 5:35:48 GMT -5
Anyways when I say radical Boslims I don't mean your cheery self or fanatical Fazla, but more so these sort of people; ZELENE BERETKE NAJAVILE PROTESTE PROTIV KONCERTA ČETNIKUŠE LEPE BRENE ISPRED ZETRE 30.05.2009 GODINE SA POČETKOM U 19:30 h. And what are they going to do? Intimidate the little teenage girls and boys going to the concert ?? FFS. These are the same rednecks who beat up people of you lifestyle choice and yet you defend it - as some sort of way of gaining acceptance (if only with Fanatical Fazla on this forum, but in general aswell) And zelene beretke, rofl, big tough guys cant even fight a war but I'm sure they'll be great at scarying kids at a Lepa Brena concert - what else could they do on a Saterday night in boring old Sarayevo....... Where do you see them saying they'll intimidate teens is a mystery to all of us.
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Post by bob1389 on May 25, 2009 5:58:46 GMT -5
ma ja ...zelenasi ce stajati pred ulazom i deliti cvece....
From what I've read on facebook with the Bosanci who are going to the concert - the organisers have had to prepare and pay for riot police to protect the people entering.
All I can think while reading this is "welcome to bosna 2009, we really want to get into EU"
And what the Boslim patiorts have to say...
""Zlatan Muzurovic je napisao/la Samo ne zaboravite u subotu svi ispred Zetre blokada ulaza breni ketnikusi. dosta price sad je vrijeme da pokazemo da smo jos tu i da nismo zaboravili sve sta su nam uradili!""
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Post by Ja Ona i Pivo on May 25, 2009 6:52:52 GMT -5
GENOCIDEEE
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Post by manijak on May 25, 2009 7:06:07 GMT -5
haha..u are not saying that? Dino can get 80,000 people in sarajevo...he can get a crowd in BL. And if he goes to Beograd he'll sell-out the 20k Arena there...and he would probably be able to do it 2 more times after that. Ma kakav Dino. Ako bi mu doslo 10000 ljudi u Beogradu i to bi bio uspeh. Mnogo se ti uzdas u njega, ako je zvezda u Bosni ne znaci da je zvezda i u Srbiji. joooj kako ste ljubomorni He can fill it three times..easy. Like people in Beograd have such different music taste. Btw..Dino's new album is 6th best seller in Serbia. (well last time i checked)
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Post by manijak on May 25, 2009 7:15:19 GMT -5
Manijak, mogu ti reci iz iskustva da srbi u rs slusaju Dinu vise od srba u Srbiji. Neznam sto bi bio neki problem ako bi on pjevao u RS,u. Ako srbi to hoce u Banja Luci to bi se vec dogodilo. Samo primjetio sam jednu stvar, kad kod pricate o RS i Federaciji u pozitivnom smislu onda smo kao jedni, a cim nesto u negativnom onda smo "mi" i "oni", "RS" i "Federacija". Ako se nesto lose desi u Banja Luci onda je to RS. Cim nesto pozitivno OOoOOj moja bosno. covjece, sta ti je? sto puta ti kazem da oni NECE da pjevaju u RS. Hari (Hari Mata Hari) and Haris Dzinovic already had concerts in Serbia. I'm sure Dino Merlin and Halid Beslic will follow. First you are saying more people listen to Dino in RS than in Serbia, then you are saying "if the people wanted that"..it happen. The only people that sing there is unknown's or they have some connection Serbs (they were part of Juzni vetar etc) ------------------------------------------------------------------- Can you describe a positive that has happened?
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Post by bob1389 on May 25, 2009 10:57:21 GMT -5
Well written blog Lepa Brena - za ili protiv!??Citam maloprije vatrene postove povrijedjenih osoba koje su se zapalile te, uslijed najavljenog koncerta Lepe Brene, rove po najdubljim i najbolnijim uspomenama, optuzujuci Lepu Brenu za sve sto im se desavalo tokom ovog odvratnog rata. "Ona je zapalila Zetru, dok su moje ubijali, dok su ovo, dok su ono...", "ona je kriva jer je ovo, jer je ono..." Cijela scena me podsjeca na srednji vijek i na razjarene seljake koji na vilama i kopljima nose neduznu djevojku duhovnom vodji sela, sve da bi je potopili ili zapalili pod optuzbom da je vjestica zbog koje su im propali usjevi. Tuzno je sto se od srednjeg vijeka nismo pomakli ni mjesec dana:(( Bosna i Hercegovina, naizgled demokratska drzava, na putu ka civilizaciji, pod stalnim pitanjima da li nam trebaju ukinuti vize i dopustiti da izadjemo u svijet, u sebi krije 800 000 ljudi koji nisu nasli priliku niti vrijeme da makar nauce da se potpisu. Po zvanicnim statistikama, 40% ljudi u BiH je nepismeno. Ako odete u grupu Bojkot koncerta Lepe Brene, moci cete da vidite cijeli spektar jezickih akrobacija (meni je licno najdraza ona koju sam procitao nedavno "MEDI trebaju da se dignu, jer MEDI su ti koji mogu reagovati..."). Tako izgledaju recenice seljaka koji u istim tim svojim postovima na sva zvona osudjuju seljakluk i "Cece, Jane, Mace, Kuce" (popularni oblik mnozine imena turbofolk pjevacica, koja se koristi kako ostali ne bi pomislili da osoba koja pise post zna ista vise o tim pjevacicama, od povrsnog poznavanja njihovih imena:)) Poznajem ljude koji su se pridruzili grupi Bojkot Lepe Brene, a koje sam licno vidio da dizu ruke i uvrcu rucnim zglobovima na "Hej Seki, Seki, tako ti Allaha...". Ali ne, oni su sada ona ispravna, intelektualna struja koja ce da izvede Bosnu i Hercegovinu na pravi put, put uvazavanja i prihvatanja od strane modernih drzava. Ne treba napominjati da je sama grupa Bojkota tako iskonstruisana da je NE MOZES napustiti nakon sto se jednom prijavis, te da ti NIJE dozvoljeno napisati kontra post opste usaglasenom stavu cijele grupe - Da je Lepa Brena, pored Mladica, jedna od najodgovornijih za krvoprolice u BiH. Jadna je kolicina licemjerstva u nasem drustvu. Na svojoj kozi sam osjetio taj bolesni i slijepi fanatizam: kada sam jednom rekao da volim Gorana Bregovica, dan poslije mi je prisla grupa ljudi koja me bijesno upitala da li je istina da podrzavam cetnike i da sam protiv muslimana. Napominjem da sam iz mijesanog braka i da mi ni u najdubljem dijelu mozga nema prostora za mrznju ijednog naroda! Lepa Brena je zrtva bolesne potrebe covjeka u BiH da razlog za svoj neuspjeh potrazi uvijek u drugome. Shvatam da je gomila ljudi isfrustrirana svakodnevnicom i da imaju milion problema - ali iskaljivanje mrznje na ovaj nacin nikome nikada nije donio napredak. Oni koji su zaista izgubili nekoga bliskog u porodici tokom rata, najmanje imaju mjesta za mrznju. Takvi ljudi znaju sta je bol i nemaju vremena za koplja i vile i moderno spaljivanje 'vjestica' Napominjem da cijenim Lepu Brenu. Za mene je ona jedan od simbola lijepog vremena i stare Jugoslavije. I dan danas se najezim kada cujem "Oci su mi more Jadransko, kose su mi klasje Panonsko...". Siguran sam da Lepa Brena nikome nikada nije pozeljela zlo niti je ikada ikoga mrzila i apsolutno ne zasluzuje optuzbe kakve joj se upucuju. Prozivjela je otmicu djeteta i siguran sam da nijedan njen potez u zivotu nije bio nikada vodjen fanatizmom i mrznjom. Zao mi je sto zivim u drzavi u kojoj grupa protiv Tasima Kucevica ima 11 clanova, grupa koja se zove "Kladim se da cu naci 10000 ljudi koji mrze Nedzada Brankovica" ima samo 9000 - a grupa koja bojkotuje Lepu Brenu ima 22.000 ljudi, te sve vise raste. Dokle god ljudi u BiH nastave da budu glupi i nezreli i dokle god budu fokusirali svoju energiju na pogresne frontove - ova drzava nema perspektivu. U znak svog licnog bojkotovanja PRAVOG primitivizma - danas idem da kupim ulaznice za Lepu Brenu i ZNAM da cu uzivati u poptunosti na koncertu. A poslije koncerta cemo opet svi biti demokrate koje se zale sto nam vise ne ukinu vize. Gadi mi se sve... www.produciraj.me/2009/05/lepa-brena-za-ili-protiv.html
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Post by manijak on May 25, 2009 11:41:22 GMT -5
Just look at facebook, its funny..something like this u always see...
Who loves BIH? 2kmembers Who supports Halid Beslic? 30kmembers
lol
That's cause we take pride about the people we produce..there isn't much nationalist stuff going on.
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Post by Ja Ona i Pivo on May 25, 2009 11:47:05 GMT -5
Lol jeli mi pricamo o ljudima koji bojkotuju koncert ili o pjevacima? Neznam sto smo mi krivi onda u RS ako dino nece da pjeva kod nas? Necemo ga moliti. A neznam sto bi mi bili ljubomorni. Manijak ti ovde pricas kao da mi placemo za dinu da nam dodje?
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Post by Sh1 Shonić on May 25, 2009 11:54:21 GMT -5
Ma kakav Dino. Ako bi mu doslo 10000 ljudi u Beogradu i to bi bio uspeh. Mnogo se ti uzdas u njega, ako je zvezda u Bosni ne znaci da je zvezda i u Srbiji. joooj kako ste ljubomorni He can fill it three times..easy. Like people in Beograd have such different music taste. Btw..Dino's new album is 6th best seller in Serbia. (well last time i checked) Jest ja sam ljubomoran na Dinu i njegov uspeh, mozes misliti.
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Post by manijak on May 25, 2009 11:58:53 GMT -5
Lol jeli mi pricamo o ljudima koji bojkotuju koncert ili o pjevacima? Neznam sto smo mi krivi onda u RS ako dino nece da pjeva kod nas? Necemo ga moliti. A neznam sto bi mi bili ljubomorni. Manijak ti ovde pricas kao da mi placemo za dinu da nam dodje? haha ja cu pocet plakati... I am not blaming anyone. I am saying there is a good and logical reason why Dino, Halid, Haris, Hari, and all the top Bosniaks singers don't perform in Republika jebena Srpska. It's not because they can't draw the crowds lol The only other reason aside from not WANTING TO would be if there is so much nationalistic hate that RS Serbs don't want anything to do with Bosniaks. Different listening to someones song on radio and tv, then seeing them in concert. One takes effort, the other doesn't. My point was though, Haris and Hari have gone to Serbia, and Dino and Halid will follow. Halid was suppose to go to Serbia but now he is injured. Is it not sad to you that BIH singers are more comfortable and more accepted in Serbia than in a part of BIH? That is my point.
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Trazi Vise
Amicus
Today's "church" has NOTHING to do with religion.
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Post by Trazi Vise on May 25, 2009 12:11:00 GMT -5
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Post by Ja Ona i Pivo on May 25, 2009 13:52:02 GMT -5
Lol jeli mi pricamo o ljudima koji bojkotuju koncert ili o pjevacima? Neznam sto smo mi krivi onda u RS ako dino nece da pjeva kod nas? Necemo ga moliti. A neznam sto bi mi bili ljubomorni. Manijak ti ovde pricas kao da mi placemo za dinu da nam dodje? haha ja cu pocet plakati... I am not blaming anyone. I am saying there is a good and logical reason why Dino, Halid, Haris, Hari, and all the top Bosniaks singers don't perform in Republika jebena Srpska. It's not because they can't draw the crowds lol The only other reason aside from not WANTING TO would be if there is so much nationalistic hate that RS Serbs don't want anything to do with Bosniaks. Different listening to someones song on radio and tv, then seeing them in concert. One takes effort, the other doesn't. My point was though, Haris and Hari have gone to Serbia, and Dino and Halid will follow. Halid was suppose to go to Serbia but now he is injured. Is it not sad to you that BIH singers are more comfortable and more accepted in Serbia than in a part of BIH? That is my point. Pa ako nece, ko ga jebe onda.. Da bih tjeo, ja nebi se bunio, kao i mnogo ostali.. Neznam odaklen vam to sve da mi sve zivo bosnjacko mrzimo? Da ima ljudi koji vas mrze, ima sigurno daleko od toga, ali ti predstavljas neku sliku kao da sad mi sjedimo zajedno svaki petak i pljujemo po vama, a vi kao tolerantni bosnjaci. Prvo govoris da on moze da napuni 3 stadiona zato sto je tako popularan, a onda meljes kako nece zato sto mi vas mrzimo. Znaci uvjek u vasoj koristi a uvjek nasa krivica. Tako fino ako Dino Merlin nece da dodje, nek se fino drzi Sarajevu i federaciji, a mi necemo sigurno patiti zbog njega.
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Post by manijak on May 25, 2009 15:05:17 GMT -5
I am talking general.
I am just giving you the facts you tell me what you think.
Fact 1: Haris, Hari, Halid and Dino have never performed in RS. Fact 2: Haris and Hari have performed in Serbia. Halid and Dino plan to perform there. Fact 3: They are all popular..so we know its not because they can't draw crowds in RS. Fact 4: All of these famous and well-followed singers perform infront of crowds as little as 1000 people and even less. So they could go to many RS towns..not just Banja Luka. They regularly perform small shows.
So my point that dino can sell-out three stadiums (I meant in BEOGRAD) is to tell you..this has nothing to do with popularity of singer.
So you tell me the reasons..why do they feel more comfortable to go to Srbija before RS?
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Post by Ja Ona i Pivo on May 25, 2009 16:13:01 GMT -5
So you tell me the reasons..why do they feel more comfortable to go to Srbija before RS?
Thats a question u can ask them. I dont know why people listen to Dino in banja luka if they now hate him.
I know what u are trying to say here. That everyone of us hate u and that we are racist etc etc. If know Dino is to have a concert in BL, honestly i dont think anything seriously would happen. Just look how serbs despite the vatican and the pope, still he went thru BL without a problem, and i can tell u honestly i was expecting problems.
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Post by manijak on May 25, 2009 16:33:12 GMT -5
Thats a question u can ask them. I dont know why people listen to Dino in banja luka if they now hate him. I know what u are trying to say here. That everyone of us hate u and that we are racist etc etc. If know Dino is to have a concert in BL, honestly i dont think anything seriously would happen. Just look how serbs despite the vatican and the pope, still he went thru BL without a problem, and i can tell u honestly i was expecting problems. Hate and racism are strong words. You can use whatever words you want. But I can tell you that the BIH NT has the same issues. They have never played even a friendly in Banja Luka. And the RS soccer association openly says they don't want the NT playing there. RS continuesly says NO to anything Bosnian. ps you are a good guy dario and i am not talking about you. but unfortunatley this type of stuff is why maybe Bosniak singers wouldn't feel welcome.
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Post by manijak on May 25, 2009 17:09:21 GMT -5
Interesting timbit..
Seven days..wow!
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Post by manijak on May 25, 2009 17:13:51 GMT -5
This is how it should be: Hari and Zeljko in Serbia:
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Post by zgembo on May 25, 2009 18:08:12 GMT -5
Haris Dzinovic had a concert in Banja Luka actually. Other Bosnian Muslims such as Donna Ares have concerts all over Republika Srpska, even hardcore places like Pale. I don't know about Hari Mata Hari (he seems like a pretty normal Muslim, so I think he might have had a concert in RS too). Dino Merlin is a different story. The scars of the war are fresh. With his behaviour during the war and now, he probably fears for his safety anywhere in RS. The Bosnian football team playing anywhere in RS doesn't make sense either. People there don't cheer for them (they cheer for Serbia), and any nationalistic Bosnian Muslim fans that would come may get in trouble. So, it is not worth the risk.
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