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Post by terroreign on Apr 25, 2008 17:12:59 GMT -5
There are some sentences in Illyrian, as well as monuments in illyrian, but not fully understandable in Albanian, hmm wierd
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Post by kasso on Apr 25, 2008 18:25:36 GMT -5
Why wierd, languages changes (common sense).
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Post by terroreign on Apr 25, 2008 19:22:07 GMT -5
^^So you evolved from illyrians, hence you're not illyrians anymore (common sense)
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Post by bordura on Apr 25, 2008 20:01:43 GMT -5
First off you did not preserve the Albanian language, considering every other word is Turkish or Latin based
you are wrong in purpose or you do not know enough to make such a statement. I do not have enough facts to judge on which of the above cases you fall with that your statement.
Anyway a language borrowing words for his/her lexicon dosent prove the fact that it is not a original language. In case of the Albanian language even though the major borrowings are of the Latin Albanian it is not an romance language. as far as ottoman borrowings they are Arab/Persian/Turkish words and do not create a large and important role group in Albanians lexicon. For almost every of this words exist an Albanian equivalent as not in the case of Latin borrowings.
It appears you are not enough informed about the Albanian language .
albanian language has also ancient Creek, mediaval Greek and modern Greek borrowings, Slavic , Italian, French, German, English in it. As any other language that has communicated through centuries with other cultures. what is important and significant is that it stands as a unique branch in the Indo-European family of languages and not RELATED to any of them. It is a separate uniquely standing language and not for political reasons or separatist motives and conuctures, it is just unique despite the borrowings. A great and proud achievement through history and cultural clashes. That can be said for only 3-4 languages in Europe. All other European languages are off springs of some mother tongues and some of them just declared separate languages for political reasons.
when we albanians asked what language do you speak we are a bit surprised since we are acustomed speaking our own language. billions of people speak soemothers creators language such as english, french, spanish, serbo-croatian, German, mandarin.
for your information Turkish words in Albanian are at the same rate as other Balkan languages in percentage. You might be surprised but thats what it is.
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Post by kasso on Apr 26, 2008 5:58:44 GMT -5
^^So you evolved from illyrians, hence you're not illyrians anymore (common sense) Were not Illyrians but were are the descendants of the Illyrians (common sense).
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Post by adam on Apr 26, 2008 18:55:54 GMT -5
Terroreign,
Plav-Gusinje does have a large amount of Albanians that live there. Next time, I'd recommend you get out of Murino and try to travel to the other villages around the area. You will notice that Albanian is spoken. Sadly, many of them (including my parents) left over the past 40 years to live in other countries. Btw, the oldest religious structure in the area happens to be an Albanian Roman Catholic church (Shna Ndout).
Tivar-Podgoric-Rozhaj, next objective.....
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Post by terroreign on Apr 26, 2008 20:49:07 GMT -5
^Yea I was in Murino for a little bit, but mostly in Plav the city, walking around the main carsija, went to Vojno Selo then went to Ali-Pasha springs
Noone spoke albanian, all slavic! Funny huh?
The only albanians i met were in Gusinje, and even there the majority were slavic speakers.
Your objectives never really will happen, good luck though lol
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Post by filomen on Apr 28, 2008 6:57:38 GMT -5
mostly of the cerna gora tribe are mixed illyrian slavic origine while albanian are illyrian descendent and this is a fact and its prove by several studyes on the cultural productivity and linguistic studies also
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Post by albaniansoul on Apr 28, 2008 7:57:58 GMT -5
^^Why is your language still very different from illyrian? Dude, go choke on a c0ck. Who the fuck are you to speak about differences, when you speak the languge of the apes. Slavic language. Albanian is very very similiar to Illyrian. That considering all the invaders, occupants. Not to mention how long ago we called our language illyrian.
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Post by terroreign on Apr 28, 2008 14:01:13 GMT -5
Okay guys, I'll give an example so you can get my point..
Both Montenegrins and Albanians descend from Illyrians, many anthroplogists/ethnologists agree
That doesnt make you illyrians though.
Same way humans and chimpanzees descend from a common ancestor, doesnt make chimpanzees the predecessors of these ancestors.
Make Sense you Sons of Eagles??
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Post by isisgoing on Apr 28, 2008 18:43:49 GMT -5
Okay guys, I'll give an example so you can get my point.. Both Montenegrins and Albanians descend from Illyrians, many anthroplogists/ethnologists agree That doesnt make you illyrians though. Same way humans and chimpanzees descend from a common ancestor, doesnt make chimpanzees the predecessors of these ancestors. Make Sense you Sons of Eagles?? If A + B = C Then, C- B = A Does this make sense to you, son of a --- (whatever you are)? Now, shuddup and get me my kaffe.
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Post by terroreign on Apr 28, 2008 19:05:49 GMT -5
That's not how evolution works you quasi-eagle! lol
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Post by isisgoing on Apr 28, 2008 19:28:57 GMT -5
That's not how evolution works you quasi-eagle! lol wth..are you talking ...quasi? I'm a full blooded eagle and come from a line of eagles that extend sooo far back to the Illyrians that our NE mountain village is still called the name of one of the ancient Pagan Gods the Illyrians worshipped. We are the original peoples of this chosen land.
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Post by terroreign on Apr 28, 2008 20:58:11 GMT -5
^^Why are you obsessed with B-2 stealth bombers?
Since your full-blooded eagle you should be able to get around without that thing
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Post by isisgoing on Apr 29, 2008 21:11:35 GMT -5
^^Why are you obsessed with B-2 stealth bombers? Since your full-blooded eagle you should be able to get around without that thing I do... ;D
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Post by terroreign on Apr 29, 2008 21:12:33 GMT -5
Wow how beautiful....looks yummy ;D
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Post by atlantis on May 1, 2008 22:26:47 GMT -5
^^Why is your language still very different from illyrian? The Montenegrins, who are the tallest people in Europe… are linguistically Serbs, but there can be no question that they are to a large extent Slavicized Albanians; the cultural continuity between the two peoples is striking, the only real differences being those of language and religion `Races of Europe’ Carlton S. Coon Chapter 14:The Greeks 1939
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Post by terroreign on May 1, 2008 23:56:21 GMT -5
he meant slavicized illyrians
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