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Post by leandros nikon on Dec 18, 2022 15:21:55 GMT -5
Elisa E. Konofagou
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Post by leandros nikon on Dec 20, 2022 17:13:50 GMT -5
Antigone Costanda
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Costanda (right) in 1955
Antigone Costanda (Arabic: أنتيجون كوستان) (Greek: Αντιγόνη Κωνσταντά, born c. 1934 in Alexandria) is an Egyptian designer, model and beauty queen who won Miss World 1954.The pageant took place on October 18, 1954, in London, England with the participation of 16 contestants. In addition to Arabic, Costanda speaks Greek, English, Italian and French fluently. The Greek-Egyptian beauty was the first Miss Egypt candidate to win the title of Miss World for Egypt.
According to Eric Morley's 1967 book, "The Miss World Story", Costanda was positively beaming as she claimed that her victory was also for the Miss World 1953 second runner-up status of Marina Papaelia.
The following year, during the 1955 Miss World beauty pageant held in London, Costanda did not attend the event because of political hostilities between Egypt and Britain over the Suez Canal. British actress Eunice Gayson crowned Miss Venezuela as the new Miss World.
Prior to winning Miss World, Costanda was gaining experience in the modelling profession and was appearing in numerous publications. Winning Miss World further helped her to reach the top of her profession, becoming a successful model in the Middle East, France, Italy and Greece. Her career in later years moved into interior design. She ran a company designing the interior of business buildings. She was one of the judges at the Miss Egypt 2006 contest.
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Post by Rusyn on Dec 22, 2022 6:31:33 GMT -5
So why Greek is fighting Greek here anyway?
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Post by Pyrros on Dec 23, 2022 3:17:39 GMT -5
So why Greek is fighting Greek here anyway?
I am a vlah, and I believe that the vast majority of the mainland are not greeks. We dont have this Cypriot-Pontian-Cretan soul. We have many defeciencies as a culture. So, the more albanian or vlah the average national-greeko is, the more they want to prove that they are ancient greeks, ktl ktl ... e.g. imagine a short swarthy Serb from Bosilegrad playing the biggest Serb to a Serb from Krajna.... unbelievable
So, while I LOVE true Greeks, I cannot claim I am one of them. 1st. 2nd, the last 200 years of "greek" history has been an insult to common logic. 3rd, Greekos are the YOUNGEST nation, (manufactured) of the Balkans. Since more than 70% of the populace are "artificially" Greeks.
PROOF :
THE WEST WILL ENDORSE MOSTLY CUSTOMS AND MUSIC AND DANCES AND FOOD AND EVERYTHING COMING FROM CRETE.
WHY??
WHY is mainland Greece left outside??
WHY DO WE SHOW OFF CRETANS in EVERY TOURIST BROCHURE
BECAUSE... the whest knows that those Greeks are the CORE... and they can only tolerate those... they HATE us Vlahs... They hate us.... and as a consequence we hate our selves.
*BUT* in the meantime.... the NATIONAL costume ... is VLAHIC... cause the anglos WANT the center of nationalistic gravity of Greece to be located in the mainland. They need the eternal tenedency of the Vlahs/Albs to lies and deception. So they maintain this Vlahic spirit.
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Post by leandros nikon on Dec 23, 2022 13:56:23 GMT -5
First of all,the main criteria of nationality,is national concience.Pyro does not feel Greek and therefore he is NOT.He should change his nickname bcz it is a Greek name and he does not deserve it.Dont tell me about the Vlachs man,the most important benefactors of the modern Greek state were the Vlach benefactors,such as Averof,Arsakis,Tositsas,Zapas etc.
Also we should mention the Greek DNA.Genetics has proved that modern Greeks share some DNA with the ancient ancestors.Falmeryer was obviously wrong.
Pyro,do you believe in racial purity?Great,Adolf did believe in that too.
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Post by Pyrros on Dec 23, 2022 14:47:59 GMT -5
First of all,the main criteria of nationality,is national concience.Pyro does not feel Greek and therefore he is NOT.He should change his nickname bcz it is a Greek name and he does not deserve it.Dont tell me about the Vlachs man,the most important benefactors of the modern Greek state were the Vlach benefactors,such as Averof,Arsakis,Tositsas,Zapas etc.
Also we should mention the Greek DNA.Genetics has proved that modern Greeks share some DNA with the ancient ancestors.Falmeryer was obviously wrong.
Pyro,do you believe in racial purity?Great,Adolf did believe in that too.
Cultural purity. How Greek does Tosic or Averov sound man? gimme a funken break. Your micro-pseudo-nationalistc view is dependent on lack of freedom, lies, deception and force.
The whole perception of "greek" today is a sterile anglosaxon travesty, they have created a monster outside the norms of nature, living on foreign aid and unable to maintain itself and survive.
I LOVE GREECE. I LOVE MY HOMELAND. AND BECAUSE I DO, I WANT THIS TO SURVIVE...
your notion of "greece" is a concept of a small obedient sumbitted nation bowing all day infront of its creators and Gods the Anglosaxons...
I dont want a GREECE created by SATAN... and destroyer of life (Christianity) on earth.
Now, I hope you understand.
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Post by leandros nikon on Dec 23, 2022 14:51:57 GMT -5
Thats what you say!The majority of modern Greeks are of Byzantine ancestry and these people always tend to consider the Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople as their spiritual leader.It is not a coincidence that the westeners were calling the Byzantine empire "imperium Graecorum".
And yes,we are able to assimilate foreigners and thats not a problem.We did so before and we will continue doing so.
Truth is usually somewhere between 0% and 100% no matter what you believe.Modern Greeks share some ancient Greek DNA with ancient Greeks and this is a fact proved by genetics.This is also true about the populations who share ancient Greek DNA in neighboring teritories of western Asia minor,south Balkans and south Italy.
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Post by rex362 on Dec 23, 2022 14:57:07 GMT -5
no comment....(so much I could ) pass the popcorn
...ok....who the next golden modern greek
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Post by Rusyn on Dec 24, 2022 1:29:05 GMT -5
So why Greek is fighting Greek here anyway?
I am a vlah, and I believe that the vast majority of the mainland are not greeks. We dont have this Cypriot-Pontian-Cretan soul. We have many defeciencies as a culture. So, the more albanian or vlah the average national-greeko is, the more they want to prove that they are ancient greeks, ktl ktl ... e.g. imagine a short swarthy Serb from Bosilegrad playing the biggest Serb to a Serb from Krajna.... unbelievable
So, while I LOVE true Greeks, I cannot claim I am one of them. 1st. 2nd, the last 200 years of "greek" history has been an insult to common logic. 3rd, Greekos are the YOUNGEST nation, (manufactured) of the Balkans. Since more than 70% of the populace are "artificially" Greeks.
PROOF :
THE WEST WILL ENDORSE MOSTLY CUSTOMS AND MUSIC AND DANCES AND FOOD AND EVERYTHING COMING FROM CRETE.
WHY??
WHY is mainland Greece left outside??
WHY DO WE SHOW OFF CRETANS in EVERY TOURIST BROCHURE
BECAUSE... the whest knows that those Greeks are the CORE... and they can only tolerate those... they HATE us Vlahs... They hate us.... and as a consequence we hate our selves.
*BUT* in the meantime.... the NATIONAL costume ... is VLAHIC... cause the anglos WANT the center of nationalistic gravity of Greece to be located in the mainland. They need the eternal tenedency of the Vlahs/Albs to lies and deception. So they maintain this Vlahic spirit.
TBH, i respect your opinion bro, but i never heard before of such a theory of Modern day Greeks. I mostly assumed that Modern Greeks are MOSTLY decedents of ancient Greeks but partially mixed with Slavs, Turks, Albos, Vlachs/Romanians and Romans (lets be honest Byzantine Empire was just Eastern Roman/Latin Empire) and everyone else who ever made direct contact with the Balkans. Also ain't Vlachs just old name for Romanians anyway? (Romania was used to be called Wallachia = Vlachia) So you are actually an Cincar/Romanian from Greece, right? That's what i did understood... As for Albanians, even if they do exist in Northern Greece regions, i don't think those ever influenced Greek DNA and Greek culture that notable much anyway. Why would Greeks (or other citizens of Greece with Slavic or Romanian-Vlach heritage would want themselves to mix with these anyway???)
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Dec 24, 2022 5:09:31 GMT -5
"As for Albanians, even if they do exist in Northern Greece regions, i don't think those ever influenced Greek DNA and Greek culture that notable much anyway. Why would Greeks (or other citizens of Greece with Slavic or Romanian-Vlach heritage would want themselves to mix with these anyway???)"
I believe this is what Vatra is referring to
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Dec 24, 2022 5:14:20 GMT -5
I believe Arvanites are ethically not Albanians which exist as a nation for the past 100 years.
I believe the are albanophone Greeks.
Why would Byzantines invite foreign people to settle some depopulated areas of Greece.
Same people who are today known to be among the most nationalistic type of Greeks in Greece itself.
I don't believe the things can be viewed simplistically when it comes to Balkans.
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Post by rex362 on Dec 24, 2022 9:56:03 GMT -5
now here you guys go and Fuch up Leo's thread(his thesis)....put your crap on another post
continue Leo...flood your post of " Our golden modern Greeks! "......... you been on it since oct 12 2007 9:54 AM
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Post by leandros nikon on Dec 26, 2022 4:29:40 GMT -5
yes Rex,thank you.....and merry Christmas....
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Post by leandros nikon on Dec 26, 2022 5:02:18 GMT -5
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Post by Pyrros on Dec 26, 2022 6:10:36 GMT -5
St Gregorios the Theologist, Nazianzinos, 329 AD - 390 AD while in Constantinopole, he made some noise in his church (Agia Anastasia) and he heard from the local official : Silencio (silence).
Also note the toponyms, ppl's names and surnames back then in Kapadokia : deeply LATIN.
Crazy thing : Latins and whestos in general were ALREADY HATING THE EAST, while east was STILL LATIN...
what the funkety?
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Post by leandros nikon on Dec 26, 2022 6:55:22 GMT -5
Pyro,are you kidding!
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Post by Pyrros on Dec 27, 2022 1:33:13 GMT -5
Pyro,are you kidding!
pls man read some other book besides britanica.
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Post by leandros nikon on Dec 27, 2022 16:36:14 GMT -5
link.
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Post by Rusyn on Dec 27, 2022 17:23:43 GMT -5
Ok. Everything is BOTH Greek and Slavic, end of story. Just stop arguing please. Besides i want to clarify something about what i said earlier: Look i never denied that Byzantine was mostly built on Greek culture and that most inhabitants of the Empire were ethnic Greeks hence making Greek an official language of empire. But what i am refering too is that Royal Family of Byzantine Empire, even in times when it already got helenized, was still of Latin origin. First few centuries since the Establishing of Eastern Roman Empire, the official language was Latin here too just like at the Western Roman Empire. However due the Helenization process that Latin language got lost and replaced by Greek. That is what happens when Romans try to make another (Eastern Empire) in the territory full of Greeks.
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Post by Pyrros on Dec 29, 2022 1:27:20 GMT -5
what link man, read the book :
you anglos waste all your time dealing with antiquity, Orhtodoxy is new to you.
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